NFL/NFLPA find Dolphins followed protocol

You missed this one. So they basically didn't think to examine his back and took his word for it that he got dizzy & stumbled because of his back. So if his back caused him to stumble, they had absolutely no idea why and let him back on the field. The Dolphins head doctor who is in orthopedics should be fired.

"StaleTacos wrote:

You missed this one. So they basically didn't think to examine his back and took his word for it that he got dizzy & stumbled because of his back. So if his back caused him to stumble, they had absolutely no idea why and let him back on the field. The Dolphins head doctor who is in orthopedics should be fired.

The NFL and NFLPA also acknowledged in their joint statement that while the protocol was followed, neither the Dolphins’ physician nor the UNC conducted an examination of Tagovailoa’s back during his concussion evaluation https://t.co/xTkNaX0ixu

— Marcel Louis-Jacques (@Marcel_LJ) October 8, 2022

Except, no. The team personnel did look at his back in the blue tent BEFORE the concussion exam. They didnt re-examine it as part of the concussion protocol BECAUSE ITS NOT PART OF THE CONCUSSION PROTOCOL

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Except, no. The team personnel did look at his back in the blue tent BEFORE the concussion exam. They didnt re-examine it as part of the concussion protocol BECAUSE ITS NOT PART OF THE CONCUSSION PROTOCOL

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— Chris Kouffman (@ckparrot) October 8, 2022

NFL Dr. Allen Sills says the medical staff concluded the gross motor instability was most likely not due to a concussion but as a result of a back injury.

— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) October 8, 2022

That's the NFL covering themselves for future litigation. What back injury did Tua sustain that caused him to fall? Did the team personnel determine that? That seems like an important part of the concussion protocol. Try to determine why a player had gross motor instability. Why is the NFLPA firing someone and why is the NFL changing protocols if the diagnosis was correct?

"StaleTacos wrote:

That's the NFL covering themselves for future litigation. What back injury did Tua sustain that caused him to fall? Did the team personnel determine that? That seems like an important part of the concussion protocol. Try to determine why a player had gross motor instability. Why is the NFLPA firing someone and why is the NFL changing protocols if the diagnosis was correct?

Get over it.

"StaleTacos wrote:

That's the NFL covering themselves for future litigation. What back injury did Tua sustain that caused him to fall? Did the team personnel determine that? That seems like an important part of the concussion protocol. Try to determine why a player had gross motor instability. Why is the NFLPA firing someone and why is the NFL changing protocols if the diagnosis was correct?

So your idea of the nfl/nflpa covering for themselves is…literally handing the UNC all he needs for a hefty wrongful termination suit?

"Vinny Fins wrote:

So your idea of the nfl/nflpa covering for themselves is…literally handing the UNC all he needs for a hefty wrongful termination suit?

The NFL didn't fire the UNC. They don't care about a wrongful termination suit that the NFLPA has to endure. They care about having to pay out a settlement to players.

Sure seems like a hard sell if theyre covering something up

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Sure seems like a hard sell if theyre covering something up

NFL Chief Medical Officer Dr. Allen Sills speaking passionately on a Zoom, saying all the doctors involved with Tua Tagovailoa operated with "absolute integrity" and video alone doesn't provide the best diagnosis.

"These people are the people that you would want caring for you."

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) October 8, 2022

Nah, I want Twitter and talk show hosts to care for me.

It's all about liability.No one will ever admit anything-guilty or not.

Report and every analyst: dolphins followed protocol

Espn headline:

Tell me there’s not an agenda here

It's over. The Dolphins followed protocol.

Should Tua have gone back into the game? Maybe, maybe not. It was unfortunate he got injured in the next game but I'll tell you what, if that was a successful white quarterback, he would have been praised for being a warrior and a leader. This would not be a story.

Tua is a grown man, ultimately it will be up to him to resume his playing career with a clean bill of health. If he never played another down, I wouldn't blame him. But, we will see him very shortly. He's in the building, in meetings, he has "FOMO" as McDaniels said.

Turn the page.

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

It's over. The Dolphins followed protocol.

Should Tua have gone back into the game? Maybe, maybe not. It was unfortunate he got injured in the next game but I'll tell you what, if that was a successful white quarterback, he would have been praised for being a warrior and a leader. This would not be a story.

Tua is a grown man, ultimately it will be up to him to resume his playing career with a clean bill of health. If he never played another down, I wouldn't blame him. But, we will see him very shortly. He's in the building, in meetings, he has "FOMO" as McDaniels said.

Turn the page.

Not according to the NFL under the new protocols that's for sure:

"StaleTacos wrote:

Not according to the NFL under the new protocols that's for sure:

From Dr. Allen Sills — under new concussion protocol and amended “no-go” symptoms clause, Tua Tagovailoa would have been diagnosed with a concussion during his initial evaluation on September 25, and removed from the game without the possibility to return

— Marcel Louis-Jacques (@Marcel_LJ) October 8, 2022

Yeah, that's great. I don't care. The Patriots don't win a Super Bowl without the "Tuck Rule" either.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Not according to the NFL under the new protocols that's for sure:

From Dr. Allen Sills — under new concussion protocol and amended “no-go” symptoms clause, Tua Tagovailoa would have been diagnosed with a concussion during his initial evaluation on September 25, and removed from the game without the possibility to return

— Marcel Louis-Jacques (@Marcel_LJ) October 8, 2022

The keyword being NEW protocols. You're answering someone saying "the Dolphins followed protocols" by saying "now the protocols have changed!" And you don't understand why that's a dumb answer?

That’s just it - those are “new” protocols, written after this incident. They were not in place prior to, and therefore could not be followed. Hopefully this helps other players in the future.

PS. Rex Ryan needs to be punched in his ignorant mouth after his rant against McDaniel. Him and his “I treated my players like my sons” bullcrap.

Beat me to the first part, Rick!

"Fishhead wrote:

That’s just it - those are “new” protocols, written after this incident. They were not in place prior to, and therefore could not be followed. Hopefully this helps other players in the future.

PS. Rex Ryan needs to be punched in his ignorant mouth after his rant against McDaniel. Him and his “I treated my players like my sons” bullcrap.

Right, because the old protocols allowed a player to keep playing, when he should not have, which has been our point all along.

Also, what was the "neck injury" that he was reported to have suffered in the Thursday night game? Now the only thing they're talking about are the concussions.

"resnor wrote:

Right, because the old protocols allowed a player to keep playing, when he should not have, which has been our point all along.

Also, what was the "neck injury" that he was reported to have suffered in the Thursday night game? Now the only thing they're talking about are the concussions.

Exactly. I mean this is the point that many of us have made the whole time. It's not that protocols weren't followed but that the protocols weren't good enough and allowed concussed players back on the field.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Exactly. I mean this is the point that many of us have made the whole time. It's not that protocols weren't followed but that the protocols weren't good enough and allowed concussed players back on the field.

And, our point is nobody gave two craps about this for years and years and years. Why are the Dolphins singled out?

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

And, our point is nobody gave two craps about this for years and years and years. Why are the Dolphins singled out?

Because there were questions about Tua having a concussion coming into a nationally televised game. He then hit his head, had disturbing fencing reactions, and then was carted off in a stretcher in said nationally televised game.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Because there were questions about Tua having a concussion coming into a nationally televised game. He then hit his head, had disturbing fencing reactions, and then was carted off in a stretcher in said nationally televised game.

And, you there is no medical proof that he did suffer a concussion that Sunday.

There is ZERO link that what happened on the Thursday night had anything to do with the Sunday before. The injury on the Thursday night could have happened to anyone.

Dolphins win. NFLPA loses.

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

And, you there is no medical proof that he did suffer a concussion that Sunday.

There is ZERO link that what happened on the Thursday night had anything to do with the Sunday before. The injury on the Thursday night could have happened to anyone.

Dolphins win. NFLPA loses.

You mean besides the NFL stating in their investigation he would have been diagnosed with a concussion and not allowed to return if these new protocols were in place? OK. If you say so.