Now that the season is over

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dirtylandrydirtylandryNew MemberOP
Dec 18, 2017, 08:03 AM

I really want to give props to myself, hitman , ricky and danmarino as posters. We all were right. We didn't buy into the hype and knew, because of football expertise, what was going to happen here. Looking at the games last night, we lack personnel for sustainable winning. There is no need for patience, hoping a player makes the jump, in year 4 or 7 or 3. Here is the cold truth: Tunsil is a guard, Parker is a 3, we need linemen that can give QBs like Ben time to survey the field and we need a qb for the future. None of you, not one poster, will ever convince me that Ryan Tannehill is the long term answer and will have sustainable elite seasons. One final thing, if we go 6-10, fire the front office and fire Gase. This is a cut-throat league, waiting around for players and coaches to come around will lead you to.....the Cincinnati Bengals.

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aesopaesopForum Veteran
Dec 18, 2017, 08:06 AM

Genius.

dirtylandrydirtylandryNew Member
Dec 18, 2017, 08:18 AM

"aesop wrote:

Genius.

thank you. I appreciate you seeing the ability I have as a potential GM.

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DestroyerDestroyerForum Veteran
Dec 18, 2017, 08:24 AM

You forgot to include how modest you are in your post.

The Dolphins are the softest team in the NFL. Tua hater starting 12/11/22.

dirtylandrydirtylandryNew Member
Dec 18, 2017, 08:36 AM

"Destroyer wrote:

You forgot to include how modest you are in your post.

dude, if you don't know the dolphins by now, then I'm not sure when you will. You're saying you held onto "good luck," or belief? This is football. You have to have better coaches and players to win. We are like the Browns, we feel we can "get away" with certain players and be smarter than the league. The Browns have been trading down in the draft since their mistakes at QB, and instead of drafting a qb until they get it right, believed they could over draft the other positions and just have a plug in at qb. The league doesn't work that way. What did Miami do this offseason that made you believe they wanted to improve upon 10-6? Trading for Thomas? The MacDonald aquisition shows some signs, but overall nothing. What did the Pats do? They won the SB and traded for Cooks and brought in Gilmore. That's what elite teams do. They never are happy with their roster. We have this "la di da la di da" attitude that scheme and experience will help us the next year, not to mention luck. Your qb gets an ACL Injury and you hope no surgery helps? Who thinks that way, collectively? Then even if he has surgery, are comfortable going into the year with Matt Moore after his last two games in 2016? Not one time do they want to push the envelope. Imagine if we had Watson in the house, or a young qb. This season wouldn't have gone to waste if we had developed someone internally for the next year. Instead it's the same old tune, "wait till next year, Ryan Tannehill will save our franchise." Really? You think after watching Tannehill since 2011 he is a franchise-saving qb? You don't go to multiple super bowls with mediocre qb's. 10 of the last 16 Super Bowls were represented by Ben and Brady. Sure you will have a mediocre qb, like Bortles, succeed every once in a while, but Miami fans are at a crossroads, do you want longevity and sustainability or just one season you can cherish? The problem is we have been so bad for so long, most of you would take the 10-6 season from last year and keep hanging your hat on it. The team needs a coach and qb changing paradigm shift. But hey, another 6-10 season, we'll get em next year

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LI phinfanLI phinfanSupporter
Dec 18, 2017, 08:38 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

thank you. I appreciate you seeing the ability I have as a potential GM.

playoff run starts today....Thats a quote from our resident genius yesterday. Your ability should be as a comedian and a weatherman. You get laughs but no one takes you seriously. Then you can make predictions, and be incredibly wrong, and come back the next day and make more wrong predictions. How incredibly laughable...or incredibly sad, take your pick

dirtylandrydirtylandryNew Member
Dec 18, 2017, 08:39 AM

"LI phinfan wrote:

playoff run starts today....Thats a quote from our resident genius yesterday. Your ability should be as a comedian and a weatherman. You get laughs but no one takes you seriously. Then you can make predictions, and be incredibly wrong, and come back the next day and make more wrong predictions. How incredibly laughable...or incredibly sad, take your pick

that was the epitome of sarcasm

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Fin DFin DForum Veteran
Dec 18, 2017, 08:40 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

that was the epitome of sarcasm

After the fact, it always is......

LI phinfanLI phinfanSupporter
Dec 18, 2017, 08:43 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

that was the epitome of sarcasm

Yes you are Dirty, about time you admitted it

dirtylandrydirtylandryNew Member
Dec 18, 2017, 08:55 AM

"Fin D wrote:

After the fact, it always is......

Cant wait to hear more of your Tannehill and Gase combo posts. What's your fix for next year?

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aesopaesopForum Veteran
Dec 18, 2017, 09:42 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

Cant wait to hear more of your Tannehill and Gase combo posts. What's your fix for next year?

"Trade players on bad contacts for draft picks and draft elite players"

KeyFinKeyFinForum Veteran
Dec 18, 2017, 09:43 AM

"Destroyer wrote:

You forgot to include how modest you are in your post.

He also forgot the part where he's been wrong more than anyone in the history of football. But hey, if a Cutler meltdown makes him feel smart for a day, more power to him.

Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.

KeyFinKeyFinForum Veteran
Dec 18, 2017, 09:44 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

Cant wait to hear more of your Tannehill and Gase combo posts. What's your fix for next year?

Umm, our fix is Gase and Tannehill. Maybe you forgot that it was Cutler playing yesterday?

Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.

aesopaesopForum Veteran
Dec 18, 2017, 09:45 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

I really want to give props to myself, hitman , ricky

CBcbradForum Veteran
Dec 18, 2017, 09:51 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

I really want to give props to myself, hitman , ricky and danmarino as posters. We all were right. We didn't buy into the hype and knew, because of football expertise, what was going to happen here.

I think once you have a track record of making successful predictions you can make a post like this. But predicting the Dolphins won't make the playoffs when the probability of that occurring was less than 10% is hardly reason to claim you "were right and knew what was going to happen".

DAdanmarinoSupporter
Dec 18, 2017, 10:14 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

I really want to give props to myself, hitman , ricky and danmarino as posters. We all were right. We didn't buy into the hype and knew, because of football expertise, what was going to happen here. Looking at the games last night, we lack personnel for sustainable winning. There is no need for patience, hoping a player makes the jump, in year 4 or 7 or 3. Here is the cold truth: Tunsil is a guard, Parker is a 3, we need linemen that can give QBs like Ben time to survey the field and we need a qb for the future. None of you, not one poster, will ever convince me that Ryan Tannehill is the long term answer and will have sustainable elite seasons. One final thing, if we go 6-10, fire the front office and fire Gase. This is a cut-throat league, waiting around for players and coaches to come around will lead you to.....the Cincinnati Bengals.

Hey now! don't include me in this...lol

I thought we'd be in the playoffs this year. Even after RT went down I thought there was a chance we'd get in. I was super pumped about beating the Pats last week and thought maybe this was the turn around that happened last season.

I think with a healthy RT this team would be in the playoffs this season.

LI phinfanLI phinfanSupporter
Dec 18, 2017, 10:24 AM

"danmarino wrote:

Hey now! don't include me in this...lol

I thought we'd be in the playoffs this year. Even after RT went down I thought there was a chance we'd get in. I was super pumped about beating the Pats last week and thought maybe this was the turn around that happened last season.

I think with a healthy RT this team would be in the playoffs this season.

LOL, Sorry Dan, You will be forever be one of the four horseman now! You, Dirty, Hitman and Ricky. No way you can wiggle yourself out of this! Once a horseman, always a horseman.....

GalantGalantForum Veteran
Dec 18, 2017, 10:46 AM

Dirty, let's say you're exactly right and the Dolphins do just what you suggest.

Tunsil is moved to a guard position.
A left tackle is sought.
A QB is sought.
At least one other lineman is sought.

Please can you provide which draft picks you would use for which position and what trades you would make, if any?

Here's the full 2018 Draft Order:
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/full_draft

Miami are currently at:

14
45
76
107, 125
173
199

Here are the 2018 Free Agents:

Full list - http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

And here are the QB's:

Drew Brees QB 38 NO $24,250,000 UFA
Kirk Cousins QB 29 WAS $23,943,600 UFA
Sam Bradford QB 30 MIN $18,000,000 UFA
Jay Cutler QB 34 MIA $10,000,000 UFA
Josh McCown QB 38 NYJ $6,000,000 UFA
Drew Stanton QB 33 ARI $3,250,000 UFA
Chad Henne QB 32 JAC $3,250,000 UFA
Ryan Fitzpatrick QB 35 TB $3,000,000 UFA
Derek Anderson QB 34 CAR $2,350,000 UFA
Mark Sanchez QB 31 CHI $2,000,000 UFA
Case Keenum QB 29 MIN $2,000,000 UFA
Matt Moore QB 33 MIA $1,775,000 UFA
Scott Tolzien QB 30 IND $1,750,000 UFA
Teddy Bridgewater QB 26 MIN $1,712,376 UFA
Geno Smith QB 27 NYG $1,200,000 UFA
Kellen Clemens QB 34 LAC $1,000,000 UFA
Tyler Bray QB 25 KC $962,500 UFA
Chase Daniel QB 31 NO $900,000 UFA
Joe Webb QB 31 BUF $900,000 UFA
Blaine Gabbert QB 28 ARI $895,000 UFA
Jimmy Garoppolo QB 26 SF $870,975 UFA
Austin Davis QB 28 SEA $855,000 UFA
E.J. Manuel QB 27 OAK $800,000 UFA
Brock Osweiler QB 27 DEN $775,000 UFA
Brandon Weeden QB 34 TEN $775,000 UFA
T.J. Yates QB 30 HOU $775,000 UFA
Matt Barkley QB 27 ARI $775,000 UFA
David Fales QB 27 MIA $690,000 UFA
Tom Savage QB 27 HOU $630,146 UFA
Taylor Heinicke QB 24 HOU $615,000 RFA
A.J. McCarron QB 27 CIN $600,413 RFA
Zac Dysert QB 27 DAL $570,000 RFA
Kevin Hogan QB 25 CLE 495,000 ERFA
Jake Rudock QB 24 DET $495,000 ERFA
Kyle Sloter QB 23 MIN $465,000 ERFA
Garrett Gilbert QB 26 CAR $465,000 ERFA

Here are the Left Tackles:
Nate Solder LT 29 NE $10,031,000 UFA
Greg Robinson LT 25 DET $5,321,025 UFA
Chris Clark LT 32 HOU $3,000,000 UFA
Donald Stephenson LT 29 DEN $2,500,000 UFA
Chris Hairston LT 28 LAC $1,450,000 UFA
Khalif Barnes LT 35 ARI $1,000,000 UFA
Sam Young LT 30 MIA $900,000 UFA
William Beatty LT 32 PHI $900,000 UFA
Bradley Sowell LT 28 CHI $775,000 UFA
Ty Nsekhe LT 32 WAS $690,000 RFA
Ulrick John LT 25 GB $615,000 RFA
Jeremy Vujnovich LT 27 IND $540,000 ERFA

And here's a link to all the other Offensive Linemen available this offseason:
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/offensive-line/

And finally, here's a tool from Spotrac which allows you to manage the Dolphins and re-adjust salaries etc. Could you complete your plan and then post it?

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/miami-dolphins/

I'm curious to see what your solution would be.

Thanks!


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GalantGalantForum Veteran
Dec 19, 2017, 09:26 AM

No response...? :(


"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)

aesopaesopForum Veteran
Dec 20, 2017, 01:00 PM

"Galant wrote:

No response...? :(

He'll blow your mind soon enough, just keep holding your breath.