Pats get caught again

It doesn't matter, cause we can't prove how much it helps.

Can't wait.

Can we just banish them to the XFL already? This is pathetic. I dont believe for one second these guys are "unrelated" to football operations are are filming for a documentary/series for the team. Even if they were, if it's for YOUR team, why are you filming your upcoming opponents sidelines?!?!

It's a god damn joke. The absurdity of continuing a practice that they were already disciplined for but now doing it right within the stadium on gamedays while claiming it's for something legit is just a slap in the face to everyone in the NFL in my opinion.

I dont care if it's an isolated incident, or the explanation is "true", where there's smoke there's fire and the story and excuses already coming out of NE on this story this early into the investigation just reek of a lame cover story for being caught yet again. As long as Ernie Acorsi is there & there's a phone on the sidelines with his name on it as a direct line up to his little video lair every Sunday should tell you all you need to know. Combine that with the fact they've already been punished for video issues, you'd think that if you hired a film crew to legit produce a video production you'd make them aware of every rule possible to prevent something exactly like this from happening if it was indeed legit. Just another reason I don't believe this BS cover up story of theirs.

ZERO respect from me for Belichik, Brady, or that scumbag Kraft. Sad thing is, the NFL won't do anything, Belichik will eventually retire and his son will step into his shoes and keep the cheating traditions alive. It's all they know.

True.

but spying the Bengals.

Every edge I guess. I hope they beat the crap out of the Pats just because cheaters shouldn’t get ahead.

"brandon27 wrote:

Can we just banish them to the XFL already? This is pathetic. I dont believe for one second these guys are "unrelated" to football operations are are filming for a documentary/series for the team. Even if they were, if it's for YOUR team, why are you filming your upcoming opponents sidelines?!?!

It's a god damn joke. The absurdity of continuing a practice that they were already disciplined for but now doing it right within the stadium on gamedays while claiming it's for something legit is just a slap in the face to everyone in the NFL in my opinion.

I dont care if it's an isolated incident, or the explanation is "true", where there's smoke there's fire and the story and excuses already coming out of NE on this story this early into the investigation just reek of a lame cover story for being caught yet again. As long as Ernie Acorsi is there & there's a phone on the sidelines with his name on it as a direct line up to his little video lair every Sunday should tell you all you need to know.

ZERO respect from me for Belichik, Brady, or that scumbag Kraft. Sad thing is, the NFL won't do anything, Belichik will eventually retire and his son will step into his shoes and keep the cheating traditions alive. It's all they know.

What he said. + 1000

"Finatik wrote:

True.

but spying the Bengals.

Every edge I guess. I hope they beat the crap out of the Pats just because cheaters shouldn’t get ahead.

Yeah, they got "caught" this week. Id love to know how many other stadiums that "unrelated to football operations" video crew was in this season, and how many of the teams involved in those games played the Pats this year in future games.

"brandon27 wrote:

Yeah, they got "caught" this week. Id love to know how many other stadiums that "unrelated to football operations" video crew was in this season, and how many of the teams involved in those games played the Pats this year in future games.

It’s a total joke. They need to take a 1st round and 2nd round pick to stop this ‘inadvertent” mistake.

and give them to us.

And how come NO ONE ELSE gets caught doing this. So it’s an aberration.

3x.

Ok. Sure.

"Finatik wrote:

And how come NO ONE ELSE gets caught doing this. So it’s an aberration.

3x.

Ok. Sure.

Every team does it, even though they never get caught.

Sure the Pats do it, but it gives them no benefit.

And in spite of the fact that they risk so much by doing something that gives them no benefit, Belichick is a genius because he gets caught doing that thing that gives him no benefit that everyone else does but never get caught doing.

Take away the Pats first rounder for 2020 and ban Belicheat from coaching for 4 games, starting with the Bengals game this coming week.

It almost sounds like a sting. Apparently the Bengals were watching the Pats’ guys the whole time, and let them video proceedings for a whole quarter before calling security.

Bengals: “How much more rope would you like sir?”
Patsies: “If you’ve got some more we’ll take it”
Sotto voice from off stage: “Pssst boss, we’ve already got enough to hang ‘em”
Bengals “I know, but I want to hang ‘em twice”.
Bengals : “Here we go sir, some more rope”

"Deus ex dolphin wrote:

Take away the Pats first rounder for 2020 and ban Belicheat from coaching for 4 games, starting with the Bengals game this coming week.

Nice.

"Pauly wrote:

It almost sounds like a sting. Apparently the Bengals were watching the Pats’ guys the whole time, and let them video proceedings for a whole quarter before calling security.

Bengals: “How much more rope would you like sir?”
Patsies: “If you’ve got some more we’ll take it”
Sotto voice from off stage: “Pssst boss, we’ve already got enough to hang ‘em”
Bengals “I know, but I want to hang ‘em twice”.
Bengals : “Here we go sir, some more rope”

THANK YOU SIR.... CAN I PLEASE HAVE ANOTHER.

None story?
https://www.usatoday.com/amp/2634741001

Browns confirmed Patriots asked them for permission to film. Content exists on their webpage.

The Patriots clearly don't need to film the Bengals.

More likely it's arrogance or laziness that allowed the staff to forget about asking permission and just assume they could?

Either way - quality Twitter! :D

Ooh - seasonal!

More likely that since the Pats are struggling Belichick engineered a scandal so that the team can get offended in order to perk them up a bit?

It doesn't matter how much this can help their team, they do whatever they can to get even a little edge. Every bit of data on the other team can be used. They go as far as they can, bending or even breaking rules and if they get caught? So what? They lose a draft pick or two a year after another Super Bowl appearance. Worth it. Its all part of the planning and game play to Belichick.

But, but Brady is the G.O.A.T. so they dont need to cheat. And Belichick is the best HC the NFL has ever seen so that's why they have been successful for an utterly impossible amount of time. They don't need to tape the 1-12 Bengals, that is just silly to think of. The camera crew was caught taping the Bengals sideline coaches for 8 minutes which is obviously a mere coincidence that the Patriots next opponent just happens to be the said Bengals. In fact, if the Patriots were playing the Browns this week I'm sure the camera crews focus would be "coincidentally" on Clevelands sideline coaches instead. But get any thought of Patriot wrongdoing right out of your collective heads. They don't need to cheat, therefore they don't cheat. It's that simple. Brady/Belichick? Cheaters? Don't make me laugh, they're the greatest that ever lived.

"Fin D wrote:

Every team does it, even though they never get caught.

Sure the Pats do it, but it gives them no benefit.

And in spite of the fact that they risk so much by doing something that gives them no benefit, Belichick is a genius because he gets caught doing that thing that gives him no benefit that everyone else does but never get caught doing.

Exactly. Everybody just jumps to conclusions when the real truth is right in front of them.
The greatest there ever was have no need to cheat.

"Galant wrote:

None story?
https://www.usatoday.com/amp/2634741001

Browns confirmed Patriots asked them for permission to film. Content exists on their webpage.

The Patriots clearly don't need to film the Bengals.

More likely it's arrogance or laziness that allowed the staff to forget about asking permission and just assume they could?

From this article: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/patriots-videotaping-investigation-cheat-bengals-evidence/356b9am414951grsjpujdtknd

• According to The Athletic's Paul Dehner Jr., who cited sources who have seen the footage, "it shows about eight minutes of footage focusing on recording the Bengals’ sideline. It’s a direct view of the sideline as coaches make signals for plays. This isn’t an over-the-shoulder of the advanced scout who is doing his job stuff. This is shooting the sideline. For an extended period of time. The egregious nature of the video is why it set off the firestorm it did during the game with the Bengals executives in the press box."

Its groundhogs day in foxborough.. when things start to look bad, belichick looks at his shadow and resorts to this nonsense again.

this has been a NIGHTMARE 100th anniversary for the NFL and Goodell..

Robert Kraft and his prostitutes..
Antonio Brown..
Myles Garrett
And now this.. im sure goodell would love a redo on this season...

Let's just demote these scumbags down to the XFL and all move on with our lives.

8 minutes, focused straight on coaches and they're going to deny "football operations" had nothing to do with it?! Give me a break. Anyone buying that story needs to have their head checked.

If you've ever coached football on any level, you know this is very normal behavior. You obtain any and every advantage and leverage you can to defeat your opponent. If, as a HC, you're dumb enough to continue to keep using the same signals for formation changes or substitutions, you're going down with your ignorance. Assistants sit on the oppositions sidelines of an upcoming opponent and you film every perspective you can manage. I know for a fact this even happens at the city league level in S. FL. High school, absolutely. College and NFL, it's a no-brainer. I know the majority hates the Patriots, but the outcry over this incident from the media and fans alike is ridiculous.

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

If you've ever coached football on any level, you know this is very normal behavior. You obtain any and every advantage and leverage you can to defeat your opponent. If, as a HC, you're dumb enough to continue to keep using the same signals for formation changes or substitutions, you're going down with your ignorance. Assistants sit on the oppositions sidelines of an upcoming opponent and you film every perspective you can manage. I know for a fact this even happens at the city league level in S. FL. High school, absolutely. College and NFL, it's a no-brainer. I know the majority hates the Patriots, but the outcry over this incident from the media and fans alike is ridiculous.

You never had your hand in the dirt!!! I coached FOOTBALL! Your opinion is WRONG!