so we were ranked 30?

tannebaum did nothing to address the oline last summer, hopefully he does something this summer, especially if our QB is going to be less mobile...

 

We were done in in the beginning of the year by not cutting Thomas, Turner, and Douglas and instead counting on them as backups when it was quite clear they all sucked. Sam Young was decent as a swing tackle, but we ****ed up for the 2nd straight year not gettin a great guard on the market. Last year it was Evan Mathis, this year it was the guy Green Bay cut who went to the bears whose name escapes me right now who ended up being one of the best guards in the league, predictably.

This OL is so fixable if we stop trying to take the cheap way out. Bushrod was horrific the entire year. Sign TJ Lang this offseason and a quality backup C for next year and we're fine. Unless we also cut albert, than another Guard needs to be added as well. there are plenty of good guards available this offseason, but we'll see if we are competent in the front office.

 

Drafted Tunsil?


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OL could be better yeah.. but I thought it was worlds better for many games this year than in years past.

And I do find it a bit odd that anyone (in this case pff) would rank our OL 30th when we ended up ranked 10th in sacks allowed, 9th in total rushing yards and 7th in rushing Y/A. That would suggest they think most of the credit for those stats should go to the QB and RB.. not sure I buy that. I think OL definitely helped keep sacks down and opened up holes when healthy.

Besides.. if giving up 30 sacks a year gets this OL a rank of 30 (in pff's mind.. whatever you think of them), then where would you rank an OL that gave up almost twice that amount with 58 sacks in 2013?? Remember that season where the OL almost made Tannehill a new David Carr?

 

Drafting tunsil was a no brainer, it sounded like we had some inside info about the situation too.

 

Tyson Clabo
Jonathan Martin
Bryant McKinnie
Dallas Thomas
Billy Turner
Jamil Douglas

Amazing that our offensive line was still pretty bad this year but looked significantly better than previous years. The unit still needs a serious shot in the arm.

Edit: I mean.. just look at that list. That's four total whiffs in the first four rounds in the draft, it's no surprise we're still in a bit of disarray.

 

I can't believe , realistically, we have to address the line again. All we really have is James and Tunsil. Bushrod was average and Albert and Pouncey are always hurt

 

Been putting a lot of thought into it, think we have to keep Albert for another year, Keep Tunsil at guard, spend some coin on a starting right guard, and pray for Pounce..draft one Combo/center guard in the 3rd to 5th range.

 

We're definitely going to have to draft Pouncey's replacement. The guy has fragile hips. He's really great at the run game but you can't depend on him.


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Sheesh, it's such a tough call on this line...I feel you on finding his replacement problem not easily done unless your talking about a hi resource..However if we scout real good we can drop a third on that guy and find a talented player..basically giving pouncey and Albert one more shot while having contingency plans in place in Tunsil and Third round pick.

 

I don't see how if you keep Albert for one more year, you don't swap him and Tunsil.

 

yeah it's logical, but more than likely we will pay the piper for it. need to get some depth based on this scenario

 

More than that... Anthony Steen, Kraig Urbik, Bushrod, Brendel, and Young.

And the staff gave the dreaded dreadheads, Turner and Hooch (Dallas Thomas), and Jamil Douglas a chance with them before cutting them for poor preparation and play after the Bengals game debacle...

Not sure how anyone thinks the FO "did nothing"...

 

The whisper was hat the FO were against purging Douglas Thomas and Tuener, but Gase insisted on doing it.

 

I wouldn't worry about spending a high draft pick. My dad and I saw a scroller today on NFL Network that showed Travis Frederick was named First-team All Pro this season. We were laughing at Jerry Jones and the Cowboys when they took him in the first round in 2013. At that time, analysts and scouts said it was a reach. Eight offensive linemen went ahead of him. Don't worry about reaching if you think it'll work out because it just might.


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Surprised by the James grade. Glad he started coming through. He looked like a hot mess out there before the benching.

 

I don't worry about reaching when I have a conviction about a player..

If your gonna find a replacement for pouncey where there isn't such a drop in talent then I think your gonna have to start out with a certain level of talent, so spending a third round pick on that guy is a high resource imo..

To create balance on this team my first two picks are gonna reserved for defenders..

 

I feel ya, but we're kind of at the mercy of this veteran player.... I don't think it's something he's open to..

 

Then I don't think it's worth keeping him if he doesn't. He can't be relied on to finish the season and putting him at LT just hinders Tunsil's progress.

If Albert is at LT then gets hurt, Tunsil has to move to LT and then an LG needs to be put in. That means two positions are affected when Albert inevitably gets hurt, hindering the cohesion of the line.

 

Exactly what I've been thinking. We have so many holes on defense, particularly at OLB most of the attention must go there. Next year you move Tunsil outside and find another guard for the left side. In the meantime you find a center that you can put at right guard and slide over when Pouncey goes down again. And he will go down again. Great player but I have absolutely no faith that he can stay healthy for an entire season anymore.

 

I agree. Injuries, as with the defense, affected the o-line greatly. Not to say that I don't want another C and/or Guard for depth or to even replace if better.

 

I totally agree with cbrad. However, how dangerous could this offense be if we could build a truly consistent running game? With Pouncey back and solid RG we could really get everything out of what Ajayi has to offer. If he is breaking this many tackles already, how much more successful could we be if we kept him even cleaner until he got to the second level of the opposing defense? These are questions I'm wrestling with at the outset of the offseason.

 

It's definitely a tough spot. But Albert is highly respected and players may not take it lightly if he's just cut. Especially since he's still playing at a high level. Albeit when healthy.

Also, was I the only one who saw Albert keeping Landry in check when he would start to lose it? lol...He's out there policing the players, which IMO, is a huge asset.

 

He is a highly-regarded locker room commodity, no doubt. My question is, even if he were to concede to a position change (LG) would he be even be able to play it well? I really can't remember previous instances where a switch like that has happened, maybe someone can enlighten me?

 

Phins have blocked OL coach Foerster from interviewing for Rams' vacant offensive coordinator position. That's gotta be awkward.

 

I doubt he'd be willing to make the change since he's still playing so well at LT. That's the conundrum. Keep Tunsil at LG, thereby inhibiting his development, or let a very good (when healthy) LT leave even though he brings a lot of leadership to the team?

Tough spot.

 

9th best rushing offense and 10th in fewest sacks allowed.....that ranking sucks

 

Wasn't there something going around kind of saying this?

Maybe early this/last season?

 

Doesn't necessarily have to be awkward. It's possible that Foerster didn't want to leave, but also didn't want to decline it to make it look like he's not interested in progressing up the coaching ranks at some point, so instead the team declines permission. Unlikely maybe, but it's possible. I probably would have let him go regardless though. :lol:

 

I'm not saying they were awful, by any stretch. I am saying, however, that there is significant room for improvement on that line, despite them being highly regarded in a couple PFF ratings.

 

They each had the same sack% this season. Except MM fumbled at a much higher rate per sack.

 

We need to fire the scout we have for OL and bring in someone new.

 

Agreed, but we have to keep in mind bushrod was playing out of position. He never played guard before until this year. He is a former pro bowl left tackle I think we should resign him to be a veteran backup tackle which is his natural position.

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