If Pouncey is competing w/ Jerry, then whos playing LG? I cant take another year of Incognito on the left side.

 

I suspect Nate Garner will play LG.

To me:

C: Richie I
LG: Pouncey
RG: Garner

or

C: Pouncey
RG: Richie I
LG: Garner

With Berger/JJ/Feinga/Barbre competing for the backup G slot and the occasional package running formation duty like Feinga did last season.

Barbre will compete with Murtha for the Swing Tackle role as we need someone to replace McQuistan as the #8 Olineman/utility Olineman role.

 

Pouncey isn’t competing with Jerry. This is PFF being ignorant. Pouncey will play C.

 

Michigan State huh...didnt know we drafted TJ Duckett.

 

Here's how I see it:

LT: Long
LG: Incognito / Garner
C: Pouncey
RG: Jerry / Garner
RT: Carey

I think we'll start the 2 best of the Incognito / Jerry / Garner trio at OG

Just thought I'd add too... Don't go too much on last years performance. We are running an entirly different scheme now. Some guys that might have looked great before may not be as good in this scheme, and some guys that struggled may look much better.

 

Richie I is miscast as anything but a phone booth player though DMike which would be fine at Center but LG?

I'd love to hear more about that as it has been alluded to, but never really completely explained.

I heard they are adding some zone blocking concepts to the mix.

 

Zone scheme is very popular in the spread.

 

Were not running a spread!!

 

Here's how it should be:
LT: Long
LG: Garner
C: Pouncey
RG: Richie
RT: Carey

Jerry was rated one of the worst guards by PFF last year

 

That's my preferred line as well with Berger as the floater. Jerry has potential as another phone booth type but he's not there yet. Then I'd keep Murtha or some other T that you hope you never have to use.

 

:yes: We will be running some spread. Count on it. Oh, and in case you are wondering - I hate the spread.

 

I don't think we are at all done addressing the O-Line ... there are some really good free agent Guards out there that could take this Line up to a whole new level if we get the right guy. I'd love to see us jump on Davin Josephs when and if Free Agency ever starts

 

I don't have much faith in Daniel Thomas. I think it will be this regime's undoing.

 

We're Dolphins fans. We have to give up on players after 12 games.


On the real though, I love Jerry. I think he could be a mean RG after a year or two of starting. I don't understand how anyone can point him out with our OL troubles last year. Everyone was injured and everyone sucked. It's that simple. My dream is: Long-Pouncey-Incognito/Berger-Jerry-Carey.

 

I know a lot of Phin fans are upset about not picking up a QB, but I just can’t see how Ireland could have possibly picked a QB over Pouncey, Thomas and Gates.

If Pouncey can cut the mustard at C and win the job, I like the idea of having a pulling center. Berger had to be the weakest link of the offence and a pulling C has less distance to travel. Incognito, Jerry and Gardner would just have to pound on people.

It looks like Pouncey has been working on the shotgun snap thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8LaDnpGlFQ

For what ever its worth, Parcells had Thomas as the 3rd back on his board and Ingram, Williams and Leshoure were already gone. With Hilliard and Sheets as the only RB options on the team it was Thomas, Murray or Hunter. BTW, the kid did find the end zone 40 times in 2 seasons.

http://www.patspulpit.com/2011/4/25/2133222/nfl-draft-2011-bill-parcells-draft-board

Gates may be the fastest player in the draft. Apparently had a groin injury at the combine and still threw up a 4.37 and showed some real nice athleticism and technique during the drills.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/03/21/small-school-star-gates-could-be-big-time-in-nfl/

Clay is all over the place. He seems to be a good size football player with soft hands.

http://multimedia.foxsports.com/m/video/38384016/draft-preview-charles-clay.htm?r_src=ramp

When you add Odrick and Edds to the mix, it’s a nice influx of young talent.

As long as Ireland brings in a QB with a legit shot at beating out Henne, I think this will be the best group of players the Dolphins have fielded in a very long time.

 

Thing is, I agree this is our best core group of players since 1999 or so, I so badly want them to take the next step and we have to have Qb play that is competent, maybe more than competent, or else we wind up with Fiedler and not going anywhere but having nice regular seasons, a bit like the Texans.

 

Did I miss something? Was Will Allen cut or is he going to be a FA once the CBA is done? Everyone keeps talking about Jimmy Wilson competing with Benny Sapp and Tyron Culver, but there's never any mention of Will Allen's return. People are seriously under estimating the impact Will Allen's return can have on the secondary

 

PFF also said Berger was our 2nd best interior OL last year after Incognito, according to their rating system, so they said they'd like to see those two be the guards on either side of Pouncey.

 

The only serious criticism I have of Henne is his brain farting TD/INT ratio when facing zone coverage. It’s just unacceptable. If you go back and watch the Titan and Raider games when he faced man-to-man coverage he was very good. I see him as a huge if at this point, but have no idea who, of the available QB, is better.

There is, however, some pretty serious competition about to heat up at most of the other positions.

So far, the Phins have Hartline, Gates, Moore, Wallace and Pruitt competing for 2-3 spots and Pruitt can’t go back to the PS, so it’s do or die for him. They have Thomas, Sheets, Hilliard and Cobbs vs. any of the RB they bring back or acquire. I worry about Sheets and any kind of Achilles injury. Nice group though.

I can’t help but wonder if Jones is coming after Clemons’ job, while Clemons is going after Bell’s. 2 pretty good players though.

If Pouncey is the best C out of camp…

 

Agree, Henne is like a rookie in MLB who has not shown he can hit the curveball, he can hit the fastball but Zones just give him problems at times, especially down in the red zone.

A player can spend 3 yrs on the ps, but if he doesn't show something how long will they keep him around?

Or are they afraid of another A Armstrong situaiton?

Player to watch in that group is Lex Hilliard, lexxy is also getting near stand and deliver or leave time.

I like Richie I at Center and Pouncey at LG.

I seriously doubt they head into 2011 with Clemons at FS if he cannot create more turnovers in TC and in the preseason, the defense cannot have a FS with -0- int's.

 

Cobbs is also a UFA.
IMO, Jones could challenge for Bell's job. I think they would just as soon leave Clemons where he is, rather than have both safeties be new to their positions. Then again, some say the safeties are interchangeable in our scheme anyway.

 

I think you can give up on that idea. Richie was our best interior OL last year, while playing mostly LG. He is the one constant we can more or less not worry about amongst the G/C spots.

 

I timed Richie pulling on a screen play and my microwave burrito was cooked before he got out to the edge to block.

 

Centers can pull on screens too. Satele used to do it. Grove tried to do it, but found trouble doing anything but getting in the way of defenders when he was in space, I think we are gonna like seeing MP in space and actually having a lineman with body control who is consistently able to find and make a block or two.