PFT: Something Fishy about Pats-Dolphins/Brady injured?
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Interesting.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/06/theres-something-fishy-about-the-pats-fins-game/
Several days ago, multiple readers told us of a discussion on WEEI in Boston regarding the point spread for Week 13's Patriots-Dolphins game.
Apparently, the thing was moving in the direction of the Dolphins, prompting speculation that Tom Brady possibly (was) removed... because he's hurt.
We didn't mention it at the time, in large part because Danny Sheridan's line at USA Today had moved only on one-half point, from the Pats being favored by 6.5 to 6.
But now, one of our most loyal and astute readers, who has done more than enough to secure a free PFT subscription for himself and his heirs, points out that BetUS.com has now taken the game off the board.
We've done some more sleuthing. At BetED.com, one of the lines listed in the Las Vegas Review Journal, the Pats-Dolphins game also can't be found. Ditto for Logans.com.
At SportsBetting.com, Miami is now only getting 3 points.
And Sheridan's line has moved to 4.
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In this case, only the health -- or lack thereof -- of quarterback Tom Brady would move the line so dramatically that multiple services would drop the game completely. So we'll be watching this game more closely than we otherwise would have been following it today.
Thanks for the read.
It is kind of funny how Everything Stinkin' Patriots Network hasn't mentioned anything about this all week.
I also noticed that the line went down but didn't give any real thought.
Is Brady on the injury list at all or another Belichek deception (or lie) as some would say?
I have not read or scene any report of Brady not playing against Miami. I have checked nfl.com and the Patriots website not any mention of it. The only thing I could find remotely on the Patriots site was the injury report and they said nobody will miss the game due injury here it is.
Out
Player Position Injury
No Players Listed
Doubtful
Player Position Injury
Taylor, Fred RB Ankle (Limited Participate)
Lockett, Bret S Groin (Did Not Participate)
Questionable
Player Position Injury
Alexander, Eric LB Groin (Limited Participation)
Baker, Chris TE Shoulder (Limited Participation)
Banta-Cain, Tully LB Groin (Limited Participation)
Edelman, Julian WR Forearm (Limited Participation)
Green, Jarvis DE Knee (Limited Participation)
Kaczur, Nick T Ankle (Limited Participation)
Koppen, Dan C Knee (Limited Participation)
Light, Matt T Knee (Limited Participation)
Morris, Sammy RB Knee (Limited Participation)
Neal, Stephen G Ankle (Limited Participation)
Ninkovich, Rob LB Knee (Limited Participation)
Vollmer, Sebastian T Head (Limited Participation)
Warren, Ty DE Ankle (Limited Participation)
Woods, Pierre OLB Groin (Limited Participation)
Probable
Player Position Injury
Brady, Tom QB Right Shoulder (Full Participation)
Springs, Shawn CB Knee (Full Participation)
Watson, Benjamin TE Back (Full Participation)
This wouldn't make sense for Brady to miss the game, does anyone have anything to verify this rumor on Brady ?
I found a Probable with a right shoulder something or other.Nothing that would leave me to believe it would affect the spread.
"bbqpitlover wrote:
Probable
Player Position Injury
Brady, Tom QB Right Shoulder (Full Participation)
Springs, Shawn CB Knee (Full Participation)
Watson, Benjamin TE Back (Full Participation)This wouldn't make sense for Brady to miss the game, does anyone have anything to verify this rumor on Brady ?
Springs just moved from Probable to Out. So it's possible.
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bodog.com has the dolphins/patriots game closed for betting. somethings fishy there.
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As a gambler I have been looking into this and almost every offshore book has the line in the 4 area, Bet Jamaica has it at 3 and like Sick said Bodog has taken it off the board.
The "sharps" all know Miami plays NE tough at home and some a few reputable guys on the board over there are suggesting an unusually large amount of $$ being laid on Miami yesterday.
Ive checked ESPN everything and no Brady out reports, but I do believe something else might be going on.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Tom Brady injured a finger Friday, but the Patriots are not concerned and Brady will start.
There had been talk earlier in the week of a Brady injury that might influence the game, but since the finger injury happened Friday, it isn't the only "injury" that's fueling the speculation. Either way, the Patriots aren't worried about it and Brady will be on the field against the Dolphins.
Something is cooking with Brady, this is report #2 on him and normally the patsies are really tight lipped as an organization.
Add in Sebastain Vollmer is out and Matt Light has a bawky knee and it is not that hard to see the passrush having a good day today.
Yea read that also....
The line drop does not suprise me, Miami is a physical team and New Englad is banged up coming off an emotional loss on a short week in a venue they rarely play well in.
I personally will not touch the game but all homerism aside all the elements are in place for a Miami win today.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:
Yea read that also....
The line drop does not suprise me, Miami is a physical team and New Englad is banged up coming off an emotional loss on a short week in a venue they rarely play well in.
I personally will not touch the game but all homerism aside all the elements are in place for a Miami win today.
I wouldn't say "all elements" missing Fergie and Grove hurts us up the middle.
And no one has posted what the weather forecast is for the game, hopefully it will be mid 80ish and sunny and humid.
"Fin-Omenal wrote:
Dammit thats my fantasy QB!
I really hate to point out this particular post, HOWEVER!!!
This is EXACTLY the reason I did Fantasy Football for short of one full season :pity:
For the record, I hope he's done for the season.
Really sorry if that rains on your fantasy parade, but to actually root for Tammy Brady being succesfull on any given Sunday is way beyond absurd to me :up:
"azfinfanmang wrote:
I really hate to point out this particular post, HOWEVER!!!
This is EXACTLY the reason I did Fantasy Football for short of one full season :pity:
For the record, I hope he's done for the season.
Really sorry if that rains on your fantasy parade, but to actually root for Tammy Brady being succesfull on any given Sunday is way beyond absurd to me :up:
This is why I make a conscience effort NOT to take any players from other AFCE teams. I don't even put them in my pre-draft rankings.

"azfinfanmang wrote:
I really hate to point out this particular post, HOWEVER!!!
This is EXACTLY the reason I did Fantasy Football for short of one full season :pity:
For the record, I hope he's done for the season.
Really sorry if that rains on your fantasy parade, but to actually root for Tammy Brady being succesfull on any given Sunday is way beyond absurd to me :up:
I'll do you one better, I have Brady and Welker....:sad:

"Fin-Omenal wrote:
I'll do you one better, I have Brady and Welker....:sad:
Does that mean you cheer them on every week?
This mindset is toy irricomprehensible to me.
I would rather be burried to my neck and covered in honey near an antpile than cheer either of those ass-hats on.
"Fin-Omenal wrote:
I'll do you one better, I have Brady and Welker....:sad:
Thats it :pity:.... Surrender your dolphin fan membership card at once. Better yet ,go to your room and dont come out until you realize what you did wrong.
"azfinfanmang wrote:
Does that mean you cheer them on every week?
This mindset is toy irricomprehensible to me.
I would rather be burried to my neck and covered in honey near an antpile than cheer either of those ass-hats on.
:lol: where do you come up with this ****. ?
Mortenson talked about it just now on Countdown.
He hurt his finger on Friday with a compounded right shoulder injury. He's been told, along with Adam Schefter, that he is starting and intends to play the entire game.
"RGF wrote:
:lol: where do you come up with this ****. ?
Loooong long sleepless nights spent drinking high-end Merlot and sticking needles into my little Tammy Brady doll :shifty:
"pigskinguy wrote:
This is why I make a conscience effort NOT to take any players from other AFCE teams. I don't even put them in my pre-draft rankings.
I've never had an AFC east player on my fantasy team. And if the projections are close enough I'll usually bench players playing Miami that week. I don't like even having the consolation prize of fantasy points when Miami is scored upon.
"azfinfanmang wrote:
Loooong long sleepless nights spent drinking high-end Merlot and sticking needles into my little Tammy Brady doll :shifty:
Doesn't the Tammy Faye Brady doll deflate when you stick those pins into it though?
"padre31 wrote:
Doesn't the Tammy Faye Brady doll deflate when you stick those pins into it though?
:banjomusic:
I really like his mouth
"padre31 wrote:
I wouldn't say "all elements" missing Fergie and Grove hurts us up the middle.
And no one has posted what the weather forecast is for the game, hopefully it will be mid 80ish and sunny and humid.
Unfortunately we just had a cool front move in....it'll be mid 70's today, partly cloudy with a light north wind. And of course tomorrow it goes back up to the mid 80's :pity:
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