Philbin press conference

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DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriberOP
Aug 19, 2012, 04:25 PM

Basically stealing Hiruma78's thunder, but here's a transcript of Philbin's press conference today:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2012/08/joe-philbin-discusses-carolina-loss-upcoming-week.html

A couple of interesting notes:

On Davone Bess

If you had asked me in March, boy I would have liked a bigger target down the middle of the field than Davone Bess, but you know what, the guy is a football player; he finds a way to get open. It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone, he seems to have a knack. We’re looking for good football players. They come in all shapes and sizes.

On injuries and defensive gameplanning

(On if he is worried about not being able to evaluate his starting defensive unit together before the start of the regular season due to injuries) – “I’m more concerned that we’re not playing fast. Again, we talked as a staff yesterday as we watched the film and we said ‘look, Kevin (Coyle) didn’t spend an awful lot of time trying to figure out Carolina’s formations and substitutions and who is in the game and who is out of the game.’ That being said, we don’t really know how much time Carolina spent on our guys either.

On why they're only running the ball about 20% of the time:

Part of the reason that our run-pass ratio is a little out of whack is, if you look at the team and you look at the running back pool, we feel like we’ve got some guys that, a) we’ve got some established players who have had some success in this league, we also feel like we have some young players that have a chance to be very good there. Now we’re in a position at receiver where we don’t have as much information on those guys, we don’t have as much quarterback information, so we’re throwing the ball more than we anticipate throwing in a quote unquote “normal game”.

On focusing on evaluations over winning pre-season games:

“Sure, but the stage that we’re at, we can’t necessarily be focused on the outcome right now. We have to be focused on watching the film and seeing development. So that’s a concern; when you have more MA’s (missed assignments) in week two than in week one. I’m more concerned about that. I love our fans, and we need every single one of them, but the seat I’m in, I have to be more worried about that stuff than I do if our fans want this guy to play more or this guy to play less, or if they want us blitz more or blitz less.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 19, 2012, 05:51 PM

Interesting comment about DBess, hope he can score more Td's this yr in the new scheme.

BpkBpkluxury_box
Aug 19, 2012, 05:54 PM

I do like him as a head coach.

But then, I liked Saban. And Sparano.

FLflounder97forum_veteran
Aug 19, 2012, 06:00 PM

"Bpk wrote:

I do like him as a head coach.

But then, I liked Saban. And Sparano.

Thankfully, Philbin handles himself far differently than those two...

Lee2000Lee2000subscriber
Aug 19, 2012, 06:03 PM

The real questions are with the position coaches. Just how good are they? Particularily on the defensive side. Guys like Bowles are not around for first time in many years. That secondary is getting used to new personalities. I like Turner, but he comes from the college ranks. I am very interested in just how good the wr coach is. The qb coach and offensive coord. appear to be competent.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 19, 2012, 06:05 PM

"Bpk wrote:

I do like him as a head coach.

But then, I liked Saban. And Sparano.

I have no hard feelings towards Tony S, thought he did okay. If he did not land on the Jest I'd wish him well.

As for Saban, and Cameron, uhm..how about no?

slickj101slickj101forum_veteran
Aug 19, 2012, 06:09 PM

Our running game scares the **** out of me.

Silence

It's ******* Golden.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 19, 2012, 06:13 PM

"slickj101 wrote:

Our running game scares the **** out of me.

But..but..if you can count to 3 you can zone block?

FLflounder97forum_veteran
Aug 19, 2012, 07:37 PM

"padre31 wrote:

I have no hard feelings towards Tony S, thought he did okay. If he did not land on the Jest I'd wish him well.

As for Saban, and Cameron, uhm..how about no?

I got nothing against Tony, but he always seemed like the guy that knew he was in over his head and couldn't find a way out.
Saban is just a jerk. Cam is just Cam.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 19, 2012, 08:12 PM

We’re looking for good football players. They come in all shapes and sizes.

Bill Parcells just spontaneously melted into a molten puddle of rage goo.

… so we’re throwing the ball more than we anticipate throwing in a quote unquote “normal game”.

Ahh, transcription repetition. Lovely.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

JMHPhinJMHPhinsubscriber
Aug 19, 2012, 08:25 PM

Satan can F*&^ himself like a corkscrew. I passionately hate that man and as an extention Alabama. I get that NFL wasnt for him and wouldnt blame him for leaving if he had a moticum of class in his body. If he would have said at the time. " Look guys I am the dolphins coach, thats my situation right now. If my agent has been approached by anyone, we have a deal that nothing is brought to my attention until my current season is done. After this season I will evaluate where I am at and what I am doing. Right now I am the Dolphins coach." We all know Wayne had to beg and overpay to get him. he didnt like the NFL so be it, but dont be a classles smuck and lie.

Cameron was too philosophical, I like him as an offensive mind but he isnt tough enough.

Sparano I liked alot but think he got caught playing a tuna puppet and an Ireland puppet. He didnt have time to be his own man, to run his own program, by teh time Parcells was done, the mistake was keeping him because by openly pursuing Harbaugh you cut him off at the knees. so while Sparano was maybe too tough and too loud, I wonder how much had to do with him trying too hard to show he was in control? Just a thought

Philbin I like his demeanor, who said a coach doesnt have to grow into his position? sure dealing with Ocho he may have fidgeted a little, it was a national audience he was in front of doing a high profile release for the first time. But he made the decision, he didnt sway from his belief. He is candid, confident and steadfast. We will see if he gets it done, like him tho

If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.
Theodore Roosevelt

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Aug 19, 2012, 08:30 PM

"slickj101 wrote:

Our running game scares the **** out of me.

I think it'll be fine personally. I don't expect it to be tops in the league or anything, but middle of the pack is certainly my expectation (14-20).

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slickj101slickj101forum_veteran
Aug 19, 2012, 08:52 PM

"padre31 wrote:

But..but..if you can count to 3 you can zone block?

I don't assume anything with our OL.

"Stitches wrote:

I think it'll be fine personally. I don't expect it to be tops in the league or anything, but middle of the pack is certainly my expectation (14-20).

If everyone's healthy then I could see closer to 20. My fear is that Bush gets hurt and Tannehill is getting blitzed every play from then on.

Silence

It's ******* Golden.

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Aug 19, 2012, 08:52 PM

"Bpk wrote:

I do like him as a head coach.

But then, I liked Saban. And Sparano.

Yeah, me too. I'm generally optimistic about every new head coach. Other than CamCam. I had to really push myself to feel any degree of optimism with him.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Aug 19, 2012, 08:59 PM

"Lee2000 wrote:

The real questions are with the position coaches. Just how good are they? Particularily on the defensive side. Guys like Bowles are not around for first time in many years. That secondary is getting used to new personalities. I like Turner, but he comes from the college ranks. I am very interested in just how good the wr coach is. The qb coach and offensive coord. appear to be competent.

We have so many asst coaches who have never coached in the NFL before. OL, WRs, Asst WRs, Asst QBs, DB. The asst OL and asst DB coaches have very little experience as well. 2 years apiece I believe.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 19, 2012, 09:00 PM

The Miami Rules:

-Players never develop
-Guru coaches come here to ruin their reputations
-Guru position coaches come here to ruin their reputations
-Running the ball is always bad
-No Qb will ever live up to so and so
-Salute the 1972 team at all times
-Stadium will be half empty
-If we do develop a player, we will lose them in FA, or trade them
-Optimism and the Draft is like a pretty women smiling at you..doesn't last for long
- The GM is always an idiot

dolfan22dolfan22subscriber
Aug 19, 2012, 09:02 PM

"padre31 wrote:

The Miami Rules:

-Players never develop
-Guru coaches come here to ruin their reputations
-Guru position coaches come here to ruin their reputations
-Running the ball is always bad
-No Qb will ever live up to so and so
-Salute the 1972 team at all times
-Stadium will be half empty
-If we do develop a player, we will lose them in FA, or trade them
-Optimism and the Draft is like a pretty women smiling at you..doesn't last for long
- The GM is always an idiot

As long as the smile lasts through one more SB win ... that will be long enough.

smahtazsmahtazforum_veteran
Aug 19, 2012, 09:41 PM

"padre31 wrote:

The Miami Rules:

-Players never develop
-Guru coaches come here to ruin their reputations
-Guru position coaches come here to ruin their reputations
-Running the ball is always bad
-No Qb will ever live up to so and so
-Salute the 1972 team at all times
-Stadium will be half empty
-If we do develop a player, we will lose them in FA, or trade them
-Optimism and the Draft is like a pretty women smiling at you..doesn't last for long
- The GM is always an idiot

That's been my beef for years. The only player I can think of that has exceeded all expectations is DBess.



It's what you learn after you know it all that counts. ~ John Wooden

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 19, 2012, 09:45 PM

"smahtaz wrote:

That's been my beef for years. The only player I can think of that has exceeded all expectations is DBess.

Cam Wake as well, usually though they have one good yr, you can see the talent, then they vanish.

Other thing is.."Coaches know more then you"

Uhm..not really.

dolfan22dolfan22subscriber
Aug 19, 2012, 09:55 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Cam Wake as well, usually though they have one good yr, you can see the talent, then they vanish.

Other thing is.."Coaches know more then you"

Uhm..not really.

Wake did develop his NFL game to be sure but honestly I think it is more on him than the coaching staff he had here.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 19, 2012, 10:10 PM

"dolfan22 wrote:

Wake did develop his NFL game to be sure but honestly I think it is more on him than the coaching staff he had here.

Of course, "The Dolphins Rules"

RoninFin4RoninFin4subscriber
Aug 20, 2012, 12:02 AM

"dolfan22 wrote:

Wake did develop his NFL game to be sure but honestly I think it is more on him than the coaching staff he had here.

Learning from Jason Taylor and Joey Porter certainly didn't hurt him either.

@KevinMD4

dolfan22dolfan22subscriber
Aug 20, 2012, 12:16 AM

"RoninFin4 wrote:

Learning from Jason Taylor and Joey Porter certainly didn't hurt him either.

Watching Porter , learning from JT .

dolfan22dolfan22subscriber
Aug 20, 2012, 12:16 AM

"padre31 wrote:

Of course, "The Dolphins Rules"

Of course " The Dolphins always make me cry "

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Aug 20, 2012, 01:45 AM

"RoninFin4 wrote:

Learning from Jason Taylor and Joey Porter certainly didn't hurt him either.

It seemed to me he arrived in Miami with a pretty diverse pass rush repertoire that he learned in the CFL.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

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