I found this video of an interview with Joe Philbin and Jesse Agler on the Dolphins website:
http://www.miamidolphins.com/media/...ing-Camp/461e3aba-1b56-4acc-8bb4-94d49d090f5e
Now, it's pretty much the standard questions and answers you'll hear this time of year from most coaches. For instance, getting the right 53 guys on the roster, talks about some training camp position battles, etc.
However, throughout the interview they cut away to scenes from the Dolphins practicing and you can get a good look at the 1's vs 1's. Some interesting things I took from it were that Artis Hicks and Jonathan Martin were working at RG and RT respectively with David Garrard at the QB spot.
Philbin gives a quote at about the 1:00 - 1:10 mark that will make DJ happy when he talks about players needing to take care of themselves in the weight room, and take care of their bodies off the field in addition the normal grind of the NFL season.
The 4-3 defense, which I think will look like a cross between Cincinnati's and Seattle's defenses from a year ago is pretty flexible. You can see Cameron Wake lining up on both sides of the formation with Odrick opposite him. That I think fits the bill of the Seahawks using Red Bryant as a 5 technique with K.J. Wright (Koa Misi in Miami's case) playing almost like a 3-4 SOLB on that same edge. Here's an image of the Seahawks base 4-3 Under defense: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1104946/4-3_Under.png
You'll notice it looks a lot like a 3-4, just with the 3 down linemen shifted over and the WOLB playing in a 3-point stance - that's Chris Clemons for Seattle labeled "Leo", as they call it. I think that's Cameron Wake in Miami's system based on the interview videos.
Playing off that you can look at what the Seahawks called their "Jet Ends" package, a more traditional looking 4-3, here:
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1104938/4-3_Under_Jet_Ends.png
In this package, Seattle brought in Raheem Brock last year, as a more traditional 4-3 end, playing a wide 9 technique. This is what Cincinnati did with Carlos Dunlap, especially when they tried to bring him on as a starter mid-way through the season. He got hurt, and ultimately didn't play much down the stretch so it never really got to take off for the Bengals. I think this is one scenario that Olivier Vernon fits in in the "base" defense to give it more of a 4-3 look as opposed to just putting Vernon on the field in nickel/dime situations and kicking Odrick inside for Soliai.
I also think we could see some of this: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1104958/3-4_Look_I.png
In that, Seattle uses a 3-4 look, but it's really just about the same defense as they normally run with Chris Clemons standing up. I think we could see this with Cameron Wake quite a bit. If you've listened to Cameron in some of his interviews, most notably with the Finsiders after he signed his extension, he talked about how in this defense he's a "hybrid", and that he plays standing up, in a 3-point stance, and even drops into coverage. I think that's where the hybrid 4-3/3-4 look comes into play, and Wake already has the experience in doing this in Nolan's defense.
You get the chance to see the offense run a weakside, outside zone play right at Cameron Wake at one point where Jake Long handles him and Richie Incognito and Mike Pouncey help clear the way.
There's another play like that to the strongside in this video with Reggie Bush (Mike Sherman interview discussing offense: http://www.miamidolphins.com/media/...-Sherman/06f2f618-09db-4db6-8a08-fadf541e0ddf).
You see another 1's vs. 1's play where Reggie Bush cuts it back up the middle. Again, Hicks and Martin are working as the starters, Garrard at QB. An interesting note, Roberto Wallace was running with the ones in several of the plays and each time Sean Smith was lined up over him, so perhaps we'll see more match-up assignments from Vontae Davis and Sean Smith like we did last year, and not so much a traditional LCB and RCB. I like that.
Clyde Gates makes a nice catch on what looks to be a back-shoulder fade in the endzone over Vincent Agnew. I'd like to see more of that in the preseason.
From Sherman's video, he details the differences in Miami's version of the West Coast offense - more runs, more play action pass plays, more bootlegs than the traditional west cost team. This was evident watching highlight videos of Ryan Tannehill at Texas A&M. Talks about the need to run the football.
At the 1:20 mark in Sherman's video, he compares the conditioning of the Dolphins to a basketball team "like the Miami Heat" and wanting to put pressure on the defense. They have the ability to do a lot of things offensively without huddling, and can communicate them through hand signals, audibles at the LOS, etc. Says it helps develop younger guys as they can have two offensive groups going at once - I'd assume one for the 1's and 2's then another for the rookies, FAs, etc.
Finally, regarding the QB battle, Sherman hopes that after 2-3 weeks after camp, namely the first preseason game, they have a clear-cut idea of who the starting QB will be, and that guy will get the necessary reps thereafter.
Just some interesting things I took from those video interviews to pass the final weeks before training camp.
***Edits - cleaned up the page as I was in a rush this morning typing. Also added some pictures of Seattle's defense last year to illustrate how Miami could use the 4-3/3-4 hybrid and using Cameron Wake and Olivier Vernon to make it work. For reference, locate Chris Clemons, #91 for Seattle, and envision that as Wake. Also, if you want to read up more on the 4-3 Under, the scheme Seattle used predominantly last year, these guys do a terrific job in explaining how the defense works and how Seattle incorporated some 3-4 elements to it. In reality, they've got 3-4 personnel, running a 4-3 under because of the skillsets their guys bring to that defense.
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2011/11/1...g-the-seahawks-schizophrenic-defensive-scheme
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Just finished watching all of the new interviews Ro, some really good stuff in there..
For once I don't think it's just talk when they talk about that yes they are changing the system to the west coast scheme, however, the west coast is so adaptable you can change and mold the system to fit your players individual abilities..I believe them, and it's a key component to successful coaching.
Yes sir, he made it a point to talk about the bodies, saying we need to be a team that takes care of their bodies, in the weight room, and on their own time..We can only hope this is just not fluff, but a real conscientious effort to educate the ignorant about how to get the professional body to perform at optimum levels.
Did you see that quick highlight of Pounce destroying that bill player, check it man,he pulled a Mike Oher like in the movie, he literally took the player out, engaged him in the field of play with perfect technique, took his *** to the sideline, kept driving him thru the out of bounds area, thru the players, then finished off this punk by driving him over the bench and pouncing him..It was a beautiful thing.
I loved the excitement Sam Madison showed about Daniel Thomas in the zone scheme, he mentioned that while watching practice he saw Thomas's ability to jump cut and press the hole..That's a big back right there, who I saw flash good talent in an NFL game as a rookie, and I know he has great feet with that size..I think we're gonna have a nice 1 2 3 punch.dolfan7171 likes this. -
Thanks for the break down bro. Can't wait till camp starts.
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Stellar report. Thanks for the short review... can't watch the video at work :/
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I like the review. There is so much I am excited about for this team. I am ready for the season to get the season started.
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Again, that's not me, that's Richie Incognito saying that.ssmiami likes this. -
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Philbin looks like a mashed thumb. Hope he coaches like a God.
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Mike Sherman's offense seems to violate a lot of those tenants. Orthodoxy would say you need two run plays- The inside and outside zone, don't worry about other plays. Like you said, Sherman has more, including a couple of man plays(they seem to throw a toss play out of I-formation and a short pull interior run out of single-back). Alex Gibbs would tell you don't run zone plays out of a straight I-formation, but that's a huge portion of what Sherman did at Texas A&M. Same with linemen, outside of rare athletic freaks you normally wouldn't touch guys much over 300lbs, Miami will almost certainly start two 325+ pound Guards. -
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Steve Slaton could be a good back for us if he's put his fumbling problems to bed. But we'll see. I like Messam more than most, I think. I like Jonas Gray. I like Lamar Miller. I have no regard for Daniel Thomas. I respect what Reggie Bush showed last year as a pure runner that I honestly didn't think he had in him, but I also fear it was a one year deal and it sounds to me like these coaches are going to use him more back in the role he played in New Orleans as a receiving threat. Also I'm perplexed whenever I hear Richie Incognito or Omar Kelly describe Reggie as a "one cut" runner. I damn near burst out laughing every time I hear it. -
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If someone wants to say that Reggie is that kind of transcendant player then all the power to them, not sure I'd agree...but he's not a one-cut system guy that's for sure.PhinsRDbest, Fin D and Nappy Roots like this. -
Offensive line really did a remarkable job in that game. Kudos. Even Colombo. -
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I like Gray but I think he has little shot of making the team. Bush, Miller & Thomas will almost certainly be on the final roster (unless they get injuries). Will they go with 4 RB's? Maybe so but that's a big "if" if you ask me. Slaton is an experienced RB. Messam is apparently healthy and Gray is still coming off injury and may not even be 100% for TC. I hope we can hang onto Gray on the PS or maybe IR and have him fully healthy Next year. -
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This year, I agree that Bush, Thomas, and Miller are locks. Slaton would be my guy if they keep a 4th.Da 'Fins likes this. -
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JT said in the latest barry jackson sports buzz, that he would not put cameron wake in coverage because of his value as a rusher
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Thought John Jerry was a decent pick in the 3rd round, too. It's a shame. Never controlled his weight, never controlled his work ethic. I'd call it a potential Paul Soliai situation where any year now he could suddenly find his work ethic, but when they've put Jerry on the field I haven't been very compelled by his game play...unlike with Soliai. -
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Re: Incognito - I'm guessing we see more pin and pull blocking with him more than anything. Gives Pouncey the ability to constantly get in space and is most effective that way IMO.
On a sidenote, I think I quoted the wrong post of yours (meant the subsequent one I think). Apologies.djphinfan and Disgustipate like this. -
Exactly what I was going to say. Last gasp effort to see if they could salvage him before cutting.
I'm not out to hate the guy, but his size and lack of development pretty much said it all. Especially for a coaching staff that likes their guys around 310-315lbs. I would have loved it had he developed because that would have been one hell of a beast to have at RG. However, you just can't trust Jerry to put it together especially with a rookie likely to be next to him. -
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