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Something tells me this was not very good idea. :pity:
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The Rev Totus Tuus Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box Club Member
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In the Modern Media Age, scandal is as good as positivity, the media manipulators are more then happy to tread on anyone, or anything just to receive an iota of coverage.
In some ways, outrage only plays into the paradigm, if it upsets people, as long as there is Buzz, Digg, or Twitter created, that is all that counts. "We" may be better served by a shrug of indifference and pity for those who stoop to such levels./Ohiophinphan and The Rev like this. -
this plus the war on christmas, ill not be shocked when christians everywhere are going to take to the streets.
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I'm not particularly religious, but I was brought up Catholic and really don't think this was necessary. I'd expect this from more from Larry Flynt than Hugh Hefner.
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I can appreciate the power of symbolism - and how a fellow christian can be upset based on the Context of what this magazine is...but its a very artistic and stylistic shot "I think its beautiful"- and to me, hinting of nudity is not nudity (I only see the cover shot - dont know if the insides/centerfold continued the theme and displayed more so to speak):
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I guess it takes all kinds.
This doesn't surprise me when I know what the magazine is all about anyway.
As a Christian it makes me boil with anger for them to take and mock Mary, the mother of Christ.
If they don't believe, fine, but keep it off the covers of rags like Playboy. -
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Next week Playgirl will release their Middle Eastern Issue with Mohammed on the cover.
Thousands will die.unifiedtheory, Soundwave and The Rev like this. -
yea, Mexico is very religious from what I have heard. I think that was a huge mistake.
As for people who get outraged, I will never understand it. It is probably not something for me to understand. -
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Are they mocking the virgin mary, or paying homage to her? Based on the picture above, I'd go with the latter.
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No doubt the publishers knew what they'd be walking into.
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Ok I have to play devils advocate here...
Is it possible that instead of "mocking" the Virgin Mary Playboy's intent was to HONOR the Virgin Mary by showing a beautiful woman dressed in the cloth?
Why is it assumed that Playboy wanted to mock Christians? I think often people's (Christians) first assumption is that they are being mocked or discriminated against.
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The title of thread comes from the title of the Rueter's article not Rev's personal agenda.
While I believe it is the imperative of a Christian to put the most charitable construction on another's action, the pose, the picture, and the cover slogan of the magazine was intended to provoke. The publishers are not so stupid as to think this was positive or even nuetral, this was intentionally provacative! The title "Virgin" Mary being used for a scantily clad woman can hardly be anything else than titilating.
Are Christians sensitive to criticism and do we see ridicule too quickly? Perhaps we do. We have been sensitized to it in public media and do have knee jerk reactions. That said, a view of the picture, the cover article, and the timing is too overwhelming a case to be a coincidence or as you suggest "flattery".The Rev and dolphindebby like this. -
Thank you. I am learning a lot from you.Ohiophinphan likes this. -
Hate to say it, but welcome to my world, Christian brothers and sisters.
How do you think I feel every Halloween when I see things like this, many times at Christian households?
Funny part is that I'm always told "oh that's just how it is, don't be so sensitive.Stitches and opfinistic like this. -
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I was honestly unaware of Wicca until a few years ago. I knew followers existed in some fashion but that was about it. Since discovering a bit about Wiccans I try to grant them the respect due anyone's faith tradition. I may disagree but disrespect holds my faith in disrepute and I choose not to do that.
I am curious Pagan, you are, I understand, the dominant poster of woman's pictures on the ladies lounge forum. How does that fit in with your faith position and tradition? Not a dig at you, for me that would be unacceptable at a number of levels but clearly you are comfortable with such posts. Is there a particular rationale you may share? -
We don't have - and I'm not being condescending - that overbearing guilt and sexual repression that the Christian faith seems to impose on its followers. I know because I was Christian at one time, and had that all dumped on me.
Reason #125 in a long list of why I broke away from the faith.
Our basic tenet is to do what you want, as long as you're not hurting anyone including yourself. We're not hung up on coveting...as long as you don't act on it. :wink2:
As for your giving us respect, I wish more were like you. I deal with that disrespect on a frequent basis. And every Halloween I have to go through the same nonsense.
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Seems pretty clear to me that they made a 'mockery' of the Virgin Mary for the purpose of driving up sales and publicity. I mean, they did this in Mexico.
Hooters doesn't hire buxom chicks dressed in skimpy attire to honor women, do they? ;)
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Had the spread been of a distasteful nature I could get on board with the whole "mocking" thing, but as it stands I dont see what the commotion is all about.
And I was jumping on you Rev, you merely took the thread title from the article. I just have a problem with people (like the writer of that article) who rush to get offended by something. The PC watch dogs these days are out of control.
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