"Fourth is simple. If a tribe gets over a 1 person lead, they will have to sit out someone out on the next challenge. If you're up 2 members you have to sit 1, 3 members you sit out 2 etc. The same person CANNOT sit out back to back challenges."
Some people have pointed out that they do not feel a team should be punished because they're winning challenges. If you won, you deserve to have all the teammates who helped you win. Also because you might be sat out, you might not have a chance to shine.
The other side of the argument is having the rule keeps the possibly weaker team from having an even bigger hill to climb if they do end up losing a couple challenges in a row. It's closer to what the actual survivor does, and allows me to have games like Team Battleship without it being an obvious advantage for the majority tribe.
Also realize that for some challenges you cannot really sit anybody out, like the guess the picture challenge. Those kind of challenges are also really good if the game became lopsided and the rule gets overturned by you guys.
Only participants votes will count. I need your vote before the draft starts on Sunday. I need you to post your vote in this thread. Whether you explain why or why not is up to you.
The new rule has passed
8 against - Monstblitz, SICK, GISH, Rocky Raccoon, Skeet84, Finfangirl, pennphinfan, Trowa
11 for - DrAstroZoom, denderfeliac, PSG, GridIronKing34, BIG E, 2k5, Tractor Traylor, Stitches, dukane5, Hurricane, Finascious D
Possible rule change. Survivor players please vote
Poll closed Mar 20, 2011.
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Overturn the rule and go back to last years rule
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Keep the new rule
9 vote(s)60.0%
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Sigh I hate not being able to edit polls. Please post your vote as well. >.<
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I've gone back and forth on this. At first I liked the rule because of what happened to Dender last year. But then I realized that was at a point where there were no official teams anyway so this rule wouldn't have prevented anything. So I'm changing my vote to say keep it the same.
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I think sitting people out would make it closer to the actual Survivor, so I'd vote for that.
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I vote to keep the rule for a couple reasons......
a. Were playing SURVIVOR so why not use the more authentic rule.
b. Its going to only affect certain challenges e.g. Battle ship some challenges this rule wont be necessary e.g. word scramble/guess the picture.
c. It adds a new element of strategy, you have to organize before hand to decide who to sit and inactivity can come back to bite you in the arse.
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I have to think about it more, and am honestly not sure which way I lean. I can see and appreciate both sides, so I would prefer to abstain unless my vote proves to be absolutely necessary. :P
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Keep the new rule.
Why? Because gish voted for the other one.denderfeliac, SICK and Dolfan984 like this. -
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I prefer the new rule... Just for something different, honestly. And while I don't watch Survivor (I have issues with keeping up with a scheduled TV show); I think I'd rather keep it closer to the real game.
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I'm honestly like Stitches...and now Trowa where I'm on the fence and see good points on both sides. I'm happier I started this thread now, than I was when I initially thought of it.
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i'm just trying to think of ways this rule could be abused somehow. is the person who has to sit out also immune if his/her team loses? otherwise the team could vote to have someone sit out against their wishes, then tank a team challenge, and vote off that person. I suppose that could happen anyway but if that were the case the person who was sitting out wouldn't even have a chance to try to win the challenge against his/her teams wishes
i'm also on the fence right now, i'm a think about this.. back to jurassic parkMonstBlitz and Dolfan984 like this. -
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I dont think a team should be punished for winning. However the main reason I don't like this rule of sitting people is say one has to sit a person for a challenge like battleship and other team ends up winning a couple of challenges than has to sit someone for word scramble. They can still unscramble words without us knowing. So biggest thing is that sitting people can't be enforced for every challenge and could give a team a certain advantage.
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The point of it is for a game like battleship if the numbers are 9 vs 6 somehow the team with 6 is going to be really screwed going against 9 people. You can say well the other team won enough they deserve their members. I think a 7 vs 6 game would be much more intense and close.denderfeliac likes this. -
By the way guys I appreciate everyone's questions/opinions. Even if the new rule passes it's going to be much more refined from all the input you guys gave me.
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I think PSG raises a good point, but not even just for the reason of sitting people just to vote them out. If someone doesn't even get a chance to participate in a challenge and everyone who did participate did well, the person who sat out could automatically be more likely to get voted out especially since captains are most likely to sit their weakest players. I don't like the idea of someone getting voted off without having a chance to prove their worth in a challenge. That's just me though.
Also it seems like the best argument for keeping the new rule is "it's more like the real Survivor". I think what works on TV doesn't necessarily always translate to a message board survivor game. -
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I am for the rule only if it is more than a one person advantage. That way it will be an advantage but it won't be super unfair.
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"The point of it is for a game like battleship if the numbers are 9 vs 6 somehow the team with 6 is going to be really screwed going against 9 people. You can say well the other team won enough they deserve their members. I think a 7 vs 6 game would be much more intense and close. "
A team with 50% more shots is probably going to win that challenge. It would be a pretty safe bet.
Both sides have good points. I'm very curious how the last 8 votes will turn out.denderfeliac likes this. -
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I just hate handicapping a team thats kicking ***, should be more of a motivation to not lose.....
imo the survivor last year was a blast, alot of close games, and the rule was how it is then....why change it? Not gunna get a much better competition than we had last year.Big E, Dolfan984 and MonstBlitz like this. -
Also, like Sick said games where numbers are important could be more towards the start of the game. I think it will be fun either way, I just think this way would be easier and would give teams more incentive to not lose challenges. Plus it's less work for you! :up: -
I ended up voting to keep the "new" rule. I just kept thinking about Top Shot and the strategy they have to have when teams get uneven.
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I love that we're already debating fiercely and the game hasn't even started yet. Hell, with the way this poll is going we could just make it people who like new rule on one team and people who don't like it on the other. Providing Skeet and Trowa vote differently on this thing.
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i can totally see the merit in the intent of the rule, but i just don't think it's fair to teams that work hard to win challenges, and the individuals who wont get to compete. My real problem with this rule is that in conjunction with redemption island, you're really really hammering the winning team by giving the losing team multiple opportunities to catch up.
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After some thought, I'm fairly sure I will be on the team with a 3 man advantage, so I'm voting for the old rule. :up:
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