Compiled this for some of my own research, figured others might find it helpful.
QB: Matt Moore, David Garrard, Ryan Tannehill, Pat Devlin
RB: Reggie Bush, Daniel Thomas, Lamar Miller, Steve Slaton, Marcus Thigpen, Jerome Messam, Richard Medlin, Jonas Gray
FB: Charles Clay
WR: Brian Hartline, Legedu Naanee, Davone Bess, Clyde Gates, Roberto Wallace, Marlon Moore, B.J. Cunningham, Rishard Matthews, Chris Hogan, Julius Pruitt, Derek Moye, Jeff Fuller
TE: Anthony Fasano, Jeron Mastrud, Michael Egnew, Will Yeatman, Les Brown
T: Jake Long, Jonathan Martin, Lydon Murtha, Will Barker, Nate Garner, Artis Hicks, Dustin Waldron
G: Ray Feinga, John Jerry, Ryan Cook, Derrick Dennis, Josh Samuda
C: Mike Pouncey, Richie Incognito, Terence Brown
DT: Paul Soliai, Randy Starks, Tony McDaniel, Isaako Aaitui, Ryan Baker, Chas Alecxih
DE: Cameron Wake, Jared Odrick, Olivier Vernon, Kheeston Randall, Johnathan Freeny, Jacquies Smith, Derrick Shelby, Jarrett Root
MLB: Karlos Dansby, Jamaal Westerman, Austin Spitler, Cameron Collins
OLB: Koa Misi, Kevin Burnett, Gary Guyton, Josh Kaddu, Jason Trusnik, Shelly Lyons
CB: Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Richard Marshall, Nolan Carroll, Quinten Lawrence, Jonathan Wade, Vince Agnew, Marcus Brown
S: Reshad Jones, Tyrell Johnson, Chris Clemons, Jimmy Wilson, Tyrone Culver, Anderson Russell, Kelcie McCray, Albert Evans
K: Dan Carpenter
P: Brandon Fields
So...is it too early to start talking about position battles?
Edit: It's worth noting we're currently at 87 players giving us 3 open roster slots.
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Vernon Carey has been cut?
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Why in the name of ****ery do we have 8 RB's?
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Why do you have Incognito listed as the #2 center? I'd put Cook in that spot and move Incognito to the first guard.
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I'd guess:
RT: Murtha/Martin
RG: Hicks//Jerry/Garner
C:Pouncey/Cook
LG: Richie I/Jerry?
LT:Long/Jerry
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Thanks for the info, though like the others, I think that Incognito is our staring LG.
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We are still really hurting at the OG position. Like really really.
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Murtha is not a guard. And I for one am definitely comfortable with Hicks and Richie. Im comfortable saying both suck ***. Richie has been part of the problem on our OL since hes been here. And for whatever reason he continues to get a pass. Hicks is definitely not the answer. Both those players are nice depth. But bad starters.dsteve likes this. -
As for Murtha at Guard, do not be surprised if we see it as Martin will play RT, leaving Jerry and Murtha as the next best athletes who figure to get a crack at Guard with RT being sewn up. -
Richie was terrible in 2010 and pretty much his whole career. And Im sorry the guy had a thumb injury. But hes a guard. In the heart of the trenches. A thumb injury should not matter. Richie is a tough SOB, hes just not a good starter, dont give me no thumb crap.
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I think they will eventually pick a Traditional FB after cuts. Also hoping they take a chance on Bacari Rambo in the Sup draft.
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One thing I noticed with the UDFA linemen Miami picked up, all of them fit that bill of being around the 315lbs mark that Coach Philbin brought up last week. Derek Dennis is probably the only one I'd think has a chance at the roster, but all of them fit that athletic bill a little more than guys like Richie Incognito, Ryan Cook, John Jerry, and Nate Garner.
After watching Ireland's post-draft press conference, I also wonder if now they might end up going after Jake Scott and trying to get a deal done. I know Miami was interested in him prior to the draft. I'd also want them to at least bring in Nick Collins and check him out. He'd be the best safety on Miami's roster the first minute he sets foot on the practice field if he's healthy.
I'd think their priorities going forward in the offseason would still be to try and address guard and free safety in addition to working on extensions for guys like Jake Long, Randy Starks, and Cameron Wake.
I wonder if the Lamar Miller pick means they will wait on extending Reggie Bush and see how he does this season. Given the guys looking for extensions, I'd rather get Long and Wake re-signed before Reggie for sure. Randy Starks is probably right there with Reggie.Trowa, PhinsRDbest and Nappy Roots like this. -
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I think Jerry gets cut.
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I wonder if they wouldn't keep four backs on the roster - I believe they did this in Green Bay for most if not all of last year - and then in 2013, the backs would be Daniel Thomas, Lamar Miller, and Steve Slaton unless Reggie Bush lights it up enough to the point he's too invaluable to let go. -
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Last season PFF graded RI as the 36th of 77 guards. In '10 they graded him 17th of 82. That pretty much jibes with what I've seen of him, and when I replay the plays there is no one I focus on any more than Incognito. He's no pro bowler, but he is a solid middle of the road guard at worst.
The last time Hicks played RG was 2010 with the Skins. I'll take a guess here, and say you haven't gone back and broken down any of his game film from that season. CK has, and his report of Hicks, as a RG, was very favorable and CK tends to be very fair when he analyzes current Dolphins players in their past performances. Hick passed blocked 367 snaps in 2010 at RG and allowed 2 sacks. I'd say that is an above average ratio.
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As for the Lamar Miller pick, I think that the jumping to conclusions of a lot of people that it means Reggie is gonna be out or it means that this coaching staff doesn't like Thomas is very premature. Lamar Miller was a guy that reportedly some GMs had a 2nd round grade on. He was a value pick in the 4th round even if we had to move up for him. Yes, if Miller shines it could spell the end of another RB in Miami but that's only a good thing and it doesn't mean we took him with the intention of showing someone else the door.Steve-Mo and andres2882 like this. -
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Plans for Murtha and Garner is that the OL needs 3-4 good reserves. As it stands now, both of them and Jerry would supply the depth.
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i think it soundslike we are going to have a better oline but our wr s wont scare anyone though. i hope they carry three tightends and 4 wrs with a 5th one onthe practice squad.
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The thing about Philbin's offensive system is that there are tons of formation and personnel sets. As a general rule you need two more players on the final roster for each position than you will regularly use. Given what I've seen of Philbin's offense in GB, that means five TEs, five backs, and seven WR as offensive weapons. Fortunately you can monkey with the numbers a little by having guys who can play multiple positions, so guys like Clay can be counted as both a TE and a back.
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