Nice to see the flirting with Harbaugh has done this team some good.

 

One would imagine this league source would have the names of those who turned interviews down.

 

I think they just don't have the balls to take on the challenge. We need a cocky, confident, and aggressive OC to give the unit some swagger who can handle the pressure of the fanbase sit on his shoulder. Pete Carmichael Jr. I really think could bring it but I can't see Tony taking him from his friend Sean. I think Tony knows his nuts are still on the chopping block and he'll go aggressive after the right guy, I hope.

 

I can't imagine given the offensive talent, or lack thereof, that any coach right now would think this is anything more than a one-year gig. Leaving a secure position to the OC for a team in need of a QB, RB, and OL is risky.

 

The title of your thread is more shady than the media... lol Maybe they offered the job to people who were happy where they were and they didn't want to take it? You have NO IDEA why they would turn down the interview. Why not title this thread, "4 OC candidates have already been interviewed thoroughly"?

 

Also the reason. There are multiple reasons for turning down an interview

 

He will go with someone he knows.....and trusts.............

it IS.........the good ol boy network after all.

Thats what MOST of them do. Ask Wanny.

 

You’re overstating offensive needs. They absolutely exist, but the unit isn’t the swirling vortex of suck you describe. In the end, there are only 32 OC jobs, and if one comes along, you have to take it. Nothing helps a coach’s stock like going into a bad situation and turning it around—that’s how Parcells built his mythological reputation. Mike Nolan walked onto a bad defense and turned it around to the point where some people thought he should be promoted to head coach.

Obtain two quarterbacks, at least one through the draft; let Incognito compete with Berger for the starting center job, since Incognito looked decent there when he played; give John Jerry a chance to actually play RG for more than five minutes, particularly since he really shouldn’t have played at all this season to begin with; draft at least one, possibly two, running backs in a year when the RB position is extremely deep in the draft. Now coach these players competently, something that has been missing under David Lee and Dan Henning.

I suspect you’ll see a rather rapid turnaround under the right coaches… assuming Jeff Ireland doesn’t fall to the temptation of draft day value and come out with four linebackers again.

 

if the unit isnt " a swirling vortex of suck", what term should describe the 31st ranked offense in the NFL?

 

if Chudz even wants the job ... PLEASE give it to him now ....

 

And in this case, he should go after someone he knows and someone who uses similar terminology to our current system

Lockout around the corner, bring in a new OC with a new System, who exactly are they going to teach it to?

The players will be banned from the facilities do you really wish to start over from scratch?

 

First, you should stop giving any sort of credit to NFL.com’s methodology of ranking offenses by yards accumulated.

The Dolphins offense, like pretty much every other offense in the NFL, is a quarterback away. This isn’t the best year to get a new QB, thanks to a potential lack of free agency as well as so many teams drafting ahead of us that also need QBs, but it’s do-able if the organization has sufficient conviction on a guy. Whether it’s Vince Young or Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton or Pat Devlin or Kyle Orton or someone else, there are options. I remember similar pessimism about the defense last year. We turned it around and fielded an upper echelon unit in 2010, one that would have been elite if it could intercept the damn ball.

But I guess that analysis doesn’t fit the “let’s set ourselves on fire and jump off a bridge” mentality around here.

 

Dan Henning :wink2:

 

I disagree the unit is a qb away. All I care about at the end of the day is points scored anyway. The interior OL is a joke. No athletic TE still. No big play ability from the rb postion. For me, Hartline isnt good enough as a 2, but thats debatable and may just be me. But for you to say the offense is a qb away to me is quite a homerish remark to make, or if you honestly believe that, then we will have to agree to disagree.

 

Agree in the sense that you can't pin the lack of success offensively all on the QB. This team needs a speed WR now.
I'm still with Henne.
I have to see a different look for this guy before I'll cave on the young QB.
Henning gave this offense concrete feet. There were a lot of variables.

 

These two statements are contradictory. If you have a quarterback, then you score points. If you don’t have a quarterback then you kick field goals. Dolfans should be among the most educated of all NFL followers on this crucial point, given our franchise history.

Absolutely. But still quickly fixable, especially if there’s some sort of free agency this year. If not, it’s still fixable, but we’re robbed of some draft flexibility.

John Jerry shouldn’t have played at all this year: he wasn’t ready. He will be for 2011. Incognito was playing out of position at LG, but looked much better than Berger at C, so he gives some hope and should be allowed to at least compete at C. LG is the trickiest position, but if there’s some sort of free agency, we’re going to throw the bank at Logan Mankins.

Legitimate weakness. Won’t be quickly fixed. Fasano is good enough for now.

That’s what the draft is for.

It’s an honest evaluation based on a projected offseason of restocking the QB and RB positions and moving guys back to where they belong along the OL.

Wait and see.

 

they need a back that can turn all these 7 yard gains into 15 or more. as much as I love Ricky, hes done. how many times this year did I watch a play blocked up well but no burst whatsoever from him when you could see a big play was there.

 

The real question is the over/under on C.annabalistic H.umanoid U.underground D.weller jokes per thread if the Phins end up hiring Chudzinski...

 

Desides, if they dont upgrade TE this offseason they probably never will. Lots of options in FA and the draft. I simply was disagreeing with you this team is a qb away, at which point it seems you agree with all the needs I listed. Of course they need a QB, they have since Marino. Whats new?

 

Yeah Ricky will be gone. My gripe all season is why use Ricky other than as a situational third down back. Ronnie was in a contract year.
Use that guy up.
He stood on the sideline a lot early in the season. There were opinions here we were saving him for later in the season. :lol:
Then they march Ronnie out in the WC. Made me nuts.
Ronnie will hit the bricks as well. Won't break my heart. You draft a RB that early without a second gear. Shame on them.
Garner will be back to help the OL but...... This offense is a tall order.

 

was waiting for that one..C.H.U.D. we used to caller Chudzinski "Chudder".

I'd think he is heading to Carolina, along with Steve Crosby.

 

"A league source said some of the candidates the Dolphins have inquired about have turned down the opportunity to interview."

These candidates obviously know a classless owner when they see one. Honestly; would you work for this guy?? This is the worse and most ill-mannered owners in football and now the franchise is playing the price. This guy is Steinbrenner with 1/3 of the brains and 3 times the balls. When a mild mannered guy like Ricky Williams speaks out saying that he wants to leave the team and gives a full list of reasons why - people around the league obviously started to listen.

The parcells experiment has officially failed us.

 

There aren’t any options. That’s the thing. There’s likely not going to be a free agency this year because there won’t be a CBA to govern how free agency operates. So you can rule out Zach Miller and Owen Daniels. In the draft… there aren’t any good TEs. They all came out last year. Last year was the time to get a new tight end if you needed one. We targeted Jimmy Graham with our 3rd round pick, and the Saints took him in the 2nd round. So we kept waiting for another value TE to drop—I guess Aaron Hernandez wasn’t considered value for them—and they never got one. They eventually picked up Reshad Jones in the 5th round, so Jeff Ireland is 1 for 2 on value at positions of need in the 2010 draft.

But no, there are no good tight end options this year. We’ll add a backup if we can, but we’re not going to magically add the next Tony Gonzalez this year.

 

I disagree there arent any good TE's in the draft. Kid from ND is a good one, and DJ Williams can play. Im no draft guru, but according to a friend of mine who is, he said its rather deep.

 

In a year when we need to go quarterback or bust, and have not one but two gaping holes at RB… sorry, we’re not drafting a tight end before the 4th round. You can rule out your two candidates automatically.

 

You stated there are no good TE's in the draft. Im simply pointing out thats not accurate. Kyle Rudolph was the name that escaped me. Lance Kendricks of Wisconsin is a good one. Saunders of S Carolina.

 

Yooo I dun heardz that Sparano's wife's second cousin's gardener knows him so football and he wearz him a hooded sweatshirt too... might be one o' them belichcks... wut youz say we give da job to 'im? :thumbup1:

 

We may be more than Qb away, but thats not to say and infusion of ability behind center couldn't make a significant improvement over what we had.

Earlier in the season, protection was impressive, but once the wheels came off, the leaks along the line soon followed.
An upgrade at TE would certainly help, but with Marshall and Bess, it isn't like were completely toothless. As for the running game, I don't think its ever been what it could have since Henning arrived.
The dual system of sharing never let either runner effectively produce. Last year, Ricky finally had an opportunity to be somewhat of a featured back, and with less than half a season after Ronnie went down, managed to gain over 1100 yds and 11 TDs. Comparatively he got 4 in 2008 despite making the playoffs, and 2 this year.

 

I’d take nearly every TE drafted in the first three rounds of 2010 before the guys you’re listing. There’s a huge difference in talent between what’s available this year and what we missed out on last year. Huge.

And let’s say for the sake of argument that the 2011 TE class is high quality; we’re still not drafting those top names because we have other, more important needs. So it’s a moot argument.

 

yES iDO WANT TO START OVER FROM SCRATCH

SPARANO GTFO
IRELAND GTFO
ALL SCOUTS GTFO
EVERY COACH LEFT NOT NAMED NOLAN GTFO

Then pay absurd money for one of the big names and
let them rebuild from the ground on up

I've been a fan for 42 years...I can wait a few more
but I can't wait to watch such incompetence
and crap they have shown the past two years
even worse is how bad we have gotten of late

 

I don't think I am overstating offensive needs at all. Not easy to find "one" QB let alone two. Not likely any rookie QB is to come in and turn the offense around. RBs are not a dime-a-dozen as most people seem to think. Particularly rookie RBs. If the interior OL is not improved then it doesn't really matter if we do find a good RB.

And we DON'T have a 2nd round pick. So your saying all we have to do is get 2 QBs, 2 RBs, and OL and we will have a quick turnaround. Realistically, how often does that happen? Takes time to build an offense.

This draft class does not appear to have a franchise QB or RB in it. And we are drafting at pick 15. Yet, it sounds like you seem to think this will be easily done. If we take a QB in round 1, then a RB will have to wait until round 3. How often do teams find legit OL to start in round 4 or below. Or do we draft a RB in round 1, and OL in round 3, and a QB in round 4....However it plays out in the draft, ALL would have to pan out as rookies. Don't think so!

There will be nothing easy about turning this offense around. If team has a losing record again next year I can't imagine Ross not cleaning house when it comes to the coaching staff. HC gone, OC gone...

 

you keep taking the conversation in so many directions. I disagree this years draft class doesnt have some talent at the TE position that can come in and contribute right away. I guess time will tell. The Phins other needs was never really relevant until you tried to use that to defend your comment about no TE talent.

 

I'm sick and tired of all this no named source bs.

It could be the janitor at Ford Field for goodness sake.

 

What a terrible post. The article only says a that people have declined to interview, not that they declined because of what happened with Ross. So candidates declined? Woop dee ****ing doo, candidates turn down opportunities to interview every year.

Also Ricky Williams is mild mannered, he's a ****ing head case. Always has been.

 

It’s easy to find a quarterback. They’re everywhere. It’s hard to find a top quarterback. When I say we need two quarterbacks, I mean exactly that: we need two quarterbacks. Pennington and Thigpen are free agents. The only QB on the roster is Chad Henne, and he’s pretty much done as a starter. So we need another backup and we need a guy to start. Two quarterbacks.

We’ll acquire those two quarterbacks somehow. One of those two will start.

It depends on the QB. Joe Flacco, Sam Bradford, and Matt Ryan made instant impacts on their teams. Aaron Rodgers did too, as soon as he was allowed to start. Same with Matt Schaub, who had to be traded before he could start. Josh Freeman is extremely underrated, as is Colt McCoy. The Jets made the AFC Championship Game in Mark Sanchez’s rookie year. I can keep going.

It’s worth noting for 2011 that having a losing season under a rookie QB is different from having a losing season under a third year QB. If Sparano thinks he can win now and buy himself another season by starting a rookie, then he’s starting a rookie.

Yes, they are dime a dozen. Arian Foster was undrafted. Jamaal Charles was a 3rd round pick. Frank Gore was a 3rd round pick. LeSean McCoy was a 2nd round pick. Ahmad Bradshaw was a 7th round pick. Ray Rice was a 2nd round pick. Pierre Thomas was undrafted. I can keep going.

Let’s see… three positions of need, two players needed at each. Coincidentally, we just happen to have at least six draft picks this year. The math works! Hallelujah!

We can also trade picks from next year to grab guys this year. Need to move up from #15 overall because you’re afraid of Blaine Gabbert being snagged up by Washington? Trade the #15 pick this year and next year’s 1st round pick to Dallas, move up, get the guy.

It’s entirely possible to restock this offense in an offseason. We did it with the defense last year.

Appearances are deceiving. There are very competent QBs spread out over the first 2-3 rounds, and the draft is extremely deep at RB. I’d throw a party if we walked away with Blaine Gabbert and traded a draft pick from next year for, say, Ryan Williams. Or we could try our luck, wait until the mid to late second round, and see if a Kendall Hunter or a DeMarco Murray might be available, and work out some kind of trade deal to snag one.

We have plenty of options. Don’t convince yourself otherwise. Or if you’re truly convinced that we’re going be even worse next year, leave this site, ignore the draft, forget the CBA negotiations, ignore the 2011 season, and come back January 2012. The Miami Heat will help you pass the time.

I’m replying to what you write. Don’t blame me. My assertion all along has been that the 2011 TE draft class is not good, and the real, obtainable talent all came out in 2010. I wouldn’t draft any of these 2011 TEs, at least not with any sort of high pick. We have higher priorities than reaching for the very top of the TE class this year, which is basically what you’re suggesting we do by speaking of said top of the class.

 

well, if a TE in this draft class is the highest rated player on the board when the Phins pick, Id take him. Kyle Rudolph, DJ Williams, Lance Kendricks or the kid from S Carolina Id take on my team any day of the week. so we can agree to disagree there. the reality is no QB worth taking may be there at 15. so you have to take someone, or trade back.

 

That’s the opposite of what should happen. If we like a guy and he won’t be there at 15, the answer is to trade up in the 2-9 range. Denver picks second and they’re amenable to trading down; Dallas picks 9th and they’re also willing to talk shop, especially if Jeff Ireland is on the other end of that phone line.

Being conservative and unaggressive on the quarterback position is why we’re here in 2011 with no QB and an argument in the first place. Ireland’s been outmaneuvered twice on two big targets; he was content to wait at #32 overall in 2008 for Joe Flacco to fall, and he was content to wait for Jimmy Graham to fall to the 3rd round in 2010. Both times he whiffed on guys he had a conviction for because he was content to wait.

No more.

 

great in theory. what ammunition does Miami have to get into the 2-9 range?

 

Next year’s first round pick.