Player with 2016 cap figure, per Spotrac.
Cam Wake - $9.8M
Brent Grimes - $9.5M
Jordan Cameron - $9.5M
Dion Jordan - $6.2M
Greg Jennings - $5.5M
Quinton Coples - $7.7M
Page 1 of 2
-
Grimes and Jennings are no brainers ... Grimes was just plain terrible and Jennings was a terrible signing.
Jordan most likely as well, given his history. He'd have to do a lot to show himself worthy ...
Wake is a question with his injury ...
Cameron and Coples must be thought about by the new regime. Didn't pay much attention to Coples' performance since we signed him. Cameron depends on what we want to do offense.number21 and Shane Falco like this. -
Grimes, Coples and Jennings are easy ones. Some other ones like Jordan depend on scheme. Wake has said he's willing to renegotiate his deal but he wants incentives built in. To me he's a keeper.
Fin4Ever, Rocky Raccoon and mlb1399 like this. -
Whats the dead money?
-
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/cap/2016/
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/miami-dolphins/
These are the two sites that I use.
Wake: 9.8 savings / 1.4 hit
Grimes: 9.5 savings / 3.0 hit
Cameron: 9.5 savings / 2.0 hit
Coples: 7.75 savings / no hit
D. Jordan: 6.2 savings / 2.99 hit
Jennings: 5.5 savings / 1.5 hit
Misi: 4.88 savings / 1.15 hit
Mitchell: 3.5 savings / 1.0 hit
Br. McCain: 3.5 savings / 1.0 hit
J. Taylor: 1.1 savings / 0.25 hit
Fox: 1.5 savings / 0.16 hit
D. Thomas: 0.86 savings / 0.15 hit
D. Moore: 0.70 savings / no hit
Also to think about are the savings from 2017 that would be gained from Grimes (8.5), Misi (4.7), and Mitchell (4.5).Fin4Ever and DolphinGreg like this. -
I feel like Wake and Coples will BOTH be back at reduced salaries. Just a hunch, particularly with respect to Coples.
-
-
Koa Misi hopefully.
Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk -
-
Wake should be retained if a good contract with incentives can be done. most others are expendable.
-
Misi is trustworthy OLB and MLB depth. Can't get rid of everyone this year.
-
Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk -
Wake definitely needs to come back next year....He's such a team guy, already willing to re-negotiate and do what it takes to stay. You don't ignore that, especially when he can still play at a high level. I hope he retires a Miami Dolphin, it would be sickening to see him elsewhere.
jdallen1222, Fin4Ever and number21 like this. -
-
What kind of success do people have after an Achilles is the real question. I don't think it is good. I just don't see him as a significant contributor. Would need a big cut to come back. Cannot be blinded by loyalty to aging stars here.
-
I think Wake will be restructured for the year he has remaining. If he produces, re-sign him to another short-term deal. I'd focus on a way to bring back Coples as a run-stopping base end you can move inside on passing downs. I'd try and bring back Vernon as well if the new coaching staff runs a scheme that keeps him playing wider techniques. Use Wake as a pass-rush specialist as they did from the Titans game to the Pats game where he was hurt.
Cut Misi. He's subpar and is always hurt. Sign Sean Weatherspoon to play SLB. Sign Zach Brown as depth. Find a way to draft Ragland or Beckwith.Fin4Ever, Rocky Raccoon and Fin D like this. -
I love Wake and want to see him retire as a Dolphin. Give him what he wants. Restructure his deal to be more team friendly and give him some incentive bonuses. I say do the same with Coples.
Grimes, Jordan, Cameron and Jennings need to be cut. I'd be ok with resigning Cameron but he's not worth $9.5MM. -
I'm inclined to say give Jamar Taylor more time. The mental errors are maddening, but he has size and talent in a secondary that lacks size and talent. I'd rather let Grimes take a walk and save the $10 million for OL and defense in FA. Vontae Davis and Sean Smith blossomed elsewhere, that happens to us far to often.
ps As to the OL, if Donald Thomas is healthy now, why not give him another shot? He's only 30. He apparently worked out for the Giants in November. -
I would cut every single one of those guys. Start to change the culture and get some new faces and better talent in here
Then I'd definitely bring back Cam Wake at a reduced rate. He's really the only guy on that list I want back
EDIT: Jordan Cameron still intrigues me too, but that'll be based on what scheme we run. I know it's not his fault that he has to stay in and block all the time, but he's not worth that salary. -
Not to be rude to anyone in particular, but you guys who want to cut Wake are clearly showing everyone how ignorant you really are.
If Wake is cut he will have an offer from 31 teams the next day.
Wake the___up! -
Finster and Shane Falco like this.
-
Have you heard the story about the pot and the kettle?number21 and Unlucky 13 like this. -
I'd like to see Jordan Cameron restructured and re-signed over the next few seasons.
I'd happily lose Rishard Matthews to free agency if I knew I could bring Jordan Cameron back over the next few years. TE is a realy need if you lose Cameron and WR is deep and relatively easy to fill with draft prospects these days. There are talented WRs everywhere across college football where as finding a TE as reliable as Jordan Cameron can sometimes take a 1st round pick.
It would make a lot of sense and would really help keep the focus on offense centered around fixing the offensive line.Fin4Ever likes this. -
I also think Vernon will be the team's #1 priority in free agency. If Miami can line up with Vernon, Suh, Wake, Coples, and Phillips next year that'd be great. I almost hate losing Shelby though because I feel he's more valuable than we give him credit for, but he looks like the odd man out.
Whatever happened to Fede, btw? -
-
-
I agree, not many people can come back 100% after that injury. A DE has to be explosive off the end and I doubt that he will ever be the same. I have actually handle many athlete's workers comp claims due to achilles tendon ruptures. In positions that required running, around 80% never came back and I would just settle their claim. It sucks, I really enjoyed watching him play.jim1 likes this. -
-
-
I think Wake will bite the bullet for the team.......He knows his role will be diminished some already with the injury he had..that is with thinking that he will recover enough to play pass rush specialist....from there I want us to resign some of our own FA's...Miller has to come back...Vernon....Shelby......Matthews......and maybe a few others...We need to restructure Jordan Cameron as I believe we will have a competent OC who knows how to use a TE with his talent....they don't come along too often as talented as he is.....Grimes and his mouthy broad can go with him at his cost...unless he wants to drop it to say 2.5-3 mil with incentives, Branden Albert needs to restructure a good ways down with incentives...bye bye Dallas Thomas......maybe give Dion Jordan a chance if he has and can stay clean and wants to really play football as well as take a heavily reduced salary with some incentives...He already has received plenty of money for nothing from us....see ya Sheppard, bye,bye Misi.
-
Id cut them all.... We arent winning next year so might as well start cutting and wait for the savings in 2017 to start over again. Build through the draft. Sign a guard or two.
-
See Brent Grimes.....as far as rather one can come back from an Achilles injury and still play good football...I believe that Wake could do it with no problems...especially in a diminished role. -
This team is absolutely fixable and we could win next year while rebuilding, but throwing away Cam Wake before giving him an opportunity to recover is nuts; and I stand by what I wrote earlier, every team in the NFL would love to have Cam Wake as a situational pass rusher in their rotation. If we released him he would be absolutely flooded with offers. -
and who had 1 assisted tackle for his production or lack of.
or are we getting the Wake of his last 3 games with 7 sacks and 4 forced fumbles? -
-
Page 1 of 2