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Discussion in 'Announcements and Such' started by Samphin, Mar 22, 2008.
Yeah it was your infatuation with Matt Ryan that did it
By the way it hurt to do as I felt like I was dumping my home, but canceled my subscription to FH VIP.
I don't think they liked Matt Ryan. I'd post something nice about John Beck soon, or you'll probably be baned.
A good Irish name like Ryan just seems right on Celtkin.com. Long? Pssshhhh. He's probably British
P.s. (just in case) Beck is great
Here's a question:
I was thinking, maybe the users that are torn by this decision, can rally together and donate money for Muck/Celt/company to buy the site from fin-atic. I do not want to see the FH brand die like this, because I have a feeling it's only a matter of time before it goes down in the sunset.
We could paypal the money to Muck or Celt and they can once again try to offer a price with our added contributions to fin-atic. If the offer is rejected again, then I would propose that contributions can be requested as a refund or if you're really nice, just allow them to use it towards the new site.
I just really would like to see everyone make a last attempt at saving the FH brand.
sometimes it's better to just let the ship go down and build a new one. true there are good memories at FH, but the recent bad ones for the guys involved will forever stick with them...imvho
Bro as Brother Muck has recently said, he is done with that site, and is looking forward to making this an even better site!
I appreciate the idea brother but Matt wants way more for the site than it is worth. It's best to start over with much less expense and build on the members who would rather post here. I think we are talented enough as a group (members and staff) to build one heck of a site and I appreciate more than I can tell you for those people who want to be a part of it.
Yeah i'm with everyone else here,any help you need i'm in.
Moronpatrol, formerly Moneybrown reporting for duty. You guys were always cool and I like change. Two good enough reasons for me to be here. I am glad I held off on my FH VIP. Ill be signing up in a couple of weeks for whatever VIP membership y'all offer here.
I love revolutions.
We're proud as hell to have you here.
when the breaking news thread was removed, that was more than enough to make my mind up for me. to start a thread attacking those that are leaving, then delete it when the truth comes out...could have shown more class.
Thanks bro! I appreciate it and look foward to being a part of the change.
Well even if that scenario came around, I still think a clean break and new clean start is probably, in my opinion the best thing/way to go....a fresh start and fresh beginnning.
Someone made a comment elsewhere on another site who was a member of FH and has extensive knowledge and experience with the web, hosts and so on and he commented that FH was really way over their head with the hosting and server issues. I can see where that might be true as FH was huge.
But change will be good here. I am very pleased that all the staff I see that came over are some of the really great ones...someone needs to twist Crunch's arm.....he is great too..t
Derek is on a short holiday with his family. He'll be back on Tuesday
Already been down that road bro... I was willing to purchase Finheaven to get these guys back but I truly understand why they want to leave now... And from what I can tell you, it was the right decision!
I can't believe he removed the Breakin New thread. That's the last straw for me. Folks let me know how I can help make this the best Dolphins Site Ever.
This site should be called FinFan Central because thats what it will be, The hub of the Dolphins fans world where friends meet as family.
wow. i dont understand why the thread had to be removed. if your gonna put it out there like he did, you have to face people laying it out on the table
i would really like to know AJ's thoughts on this, but he has been a bit of mystery for the last couple of years to be honest
Bro AJ moved on when Matt bought the site. Matt removed threads once he saw that his BS was being called out, and he was not telling the truth. Read through some of the threads here before he deleted them. He didn't even tell the main forum what was going on, we had to start a goodbye thread, and then he deleted it as well.
wow that is cold i mean even if there was a falling out and people decide to go seperate ways i think after all you guys have done for finheaven all the time and effort you guys put into it to make it a place where us fin fans could talk about the dolphins and to not even let you say goodbye it think that is very cold and disrespectful
Matt was soliciting new staff members without making sure the existing staff knew what was going on. That is totally disrespectful along with not telling all the members of what was taking place.
AJ's post on finheaven:
First, I just want to say hi and hope everyone is doing well. Some of you I know from way back when, and some I'm not too familiar with.
I totally understand how the events this weekend could confuse or upset people. I've worked with George in the past and know how much work he's put into the site, that's not questionable. During my hard times, him and many others ensured that the site stay afloat. It wasn't easy by any means.
However, when Matt recently called me to tell me that he needed my help and advice... I called back right away. I mean, I sold the site to Matt a little over 2 years ago and he's never, ever called me needing my advice. Now mind you, when I was looking to depart from FinHeaven I looked very hard to find someone that I could trust to keep FinHeaven alive and running, and also bring FinHeaven to the next level... to a place further than I could ever imagine. When I walked away from being 100% owner, I knew Matt would do just that. Till this day Matt has never let me down. He's spared no expense in getting things setup the right way. What I'm trying to say is that I essentially trusted Matt to care of my "baby." Let's just make one thing very clear, no matter how active I am on these forums... if someone tells me that FinHeaven's life is in danger... I'm going to try and help out as much as I can (pending that my help is wanted).
In any case, as we all know there will always be two sides of the story. Additionally, I really, really don't want to create this feeling of "you must choose a side..." crap. As of right now, there are easily over 20 other Dolphins sites available... there has always been another site out there for people to choose as their home. My goal has always been to make FinHeaven so great that it's an easy decision.
In regards to getting into specifics, I won't personally delve into them too much. Basically, two admins wanted to own FinHeaven 100%, thus taking Matt out of the picture completely. Not only this, but they wanted Matt to essentially walk away and to receive nothing really in return. Matt was asked to make a decision very quickly... and if it wasn't going to happen, they'd walk. Matt responded with a few propositions (including a percentage of ownership, sending them a % of revenue, etc). All were rejected as at the end of the day, they wanted complete control. With that in mind, Matt gave me a ring to see if I could step up in case things went south. Well, as we know, things went south.
One thing that was thrown around was the claim that Matt doesn't pay the bills or the funs are used mis appropriately. First, Matt does pay the bills. In fact, a new agreement between FinHeaven and the hosting provider has been made and the relationship is going well. Now, I don't know how to go through and analyze every single purchase Matt has made; however, I do know that Matt is a great businessman and understands taxes pretty well. I highly doubt he'd do anything that could jeopardized the site.
I'm back right now with a couple goals...
1. Move hosting back to a managed solution with a company that doesn't cause a conflict of interest. New host would include offsite backups, etc.
2. Establish a front page with news, commentary, and more. Bring back what made FinHeaven well rounded and different from other sites.
3. Bring back FinHeaven. FinHeaven stood for quality and had significant substance.
4. Try and bring in new mods, super mods, and admins before it gets too close to draft day.
5. Bring back FinHeaven events... creating more of a "community"
6. Establish more contests for member and staff
It's pretty steep... and I don't expect it to happen over night. I don't have the time as my job here requires much of my time, especially this week.
In conclusion, I know many of you may be uncomfortable and may be getting sea sick from how much the boat has been rocked. It's understandable. However, please trust me when I say that things are going well and will continue to grow.
If you have any questions or comments, please email or PM either myself or Matt. Please don't keep it bottled up...
true i mean i had to find out from a private message i dont know what matt was trying to do try to keep the cat from getting out of the bag so posters wouldnt leave or what but if that was what he was trying to do it didnt work to well
The awesome staff here has been upfront, and honest the whole time. My truly value our membership, and respect them. Without our members, we are nothing.
after posting that, I offered him and Matt help in getting the site back on track and I think I got spurned.
i am not trying to bash anyone or pretend to know everything but AJ basically just said what fin heaven said earlier basically word for word
as for there being over 20 dolphin forums true but finheaven is/was the biggest the other sites pale in comparison this split will be a big fan for fans most fans will either choose one site or the other
Bro Matt is telling AJ what to say. They are trying to stop members from leaving after they figured out the truth. They are in full force PR move now. We have nothing to hide, and are willing to share all with our membership. The future is very bright here for all to enjoy. When we address something here it is so all the membership can see, just not not certain memberships.
well, ck is having fun over in VIP lol
i have never been in VIP are they flipping out in there?
What is he doing?
not really flipping out. Basically here's what's gone down...
Shouright demands to know what's going on or he'll cancel his membership a bunch of us agree we need to know what's going on.
We get the jist of things, and we all talk about what to do
AJ gives his little speech
MikeO shows up and makes everything so much better of the bat
ASUfinfan,myself, and others try to remain impartial.
Boik rants on finatic
ck says finheaven is dolphinnation not finheaven and then starts to curse knowing that all the mods are gone.
to make it short, sounds like a bunch more of us are gonna be spending a lot more time here than Finheaven.
Hey!!! I'm trying to take MikeO to task for...well...being MikeO! I should get some props.
thanks for the info sounds like the fhit is hitting the san
I know you're reading the the thread over there, he practically orgasmed after AJ made his post