Randy Starks...AFC def player of the week.

Should have been back to back AFC Defensive Players of the week.

He's such a stud. He is a MUST re-sign for this team.

Positive national exposure...dolphins?

Is it fair to say that outside of Odrick our entire front 7 has made a smooth transition to the 4-3?

"GMJohnson wrote:

Is it fair to say that outside of Odrick our entire front 7 has made a smooth transition to the 4-3?

I still have a problem with that statement. Would we have the top run defense if Odrick wasn't playing end on 1st and 2nd down? he obviously has a presence on pass rushing downs when we move him inside.

"Ohio Fanatic wrote:

I still have a problem with that statement. Would we have the top run defense if Odrick wasn't playing end on 1st and 2nd down? he obviously has a presence on pass rushing downs when we move him inside.

I wasn't saying that Odrick hadn't, but that everyone else clearly had. I've heard some people say that Odrick was better off at 3-4 or DT in this defense. That we're not maximizing his production. I don't know that we'd be ranked #1 without him, would you be willing to settle for 5th or 6th if we were able to add a more consistent pass rush?

"GMJohnson wrote:

I wasn't saying that Odrick hadn't, but that everyone else clearly had. I've heard some people say that Odrick was better off at 3-4 or DT in this defense. That we're not maximizing his production. I don't know that we'd be ranked #1 without him, would you be willing to settle for 5th or 6th if we were able to add a more consistent pass rush?

nope, the pass rush is coming along nicely

I don't see how putting Odrick on the field is really materially any different from running a 3-4. We're putting the same personnel package on the field, and I'm not sure him rushing from outside the tackle is harder than as a 2-gap 5-technique in a base package.

Deservedly so. :up:

Ndamukong Who ?

Starks is Elite, has been for a while now.
Moving him to NT that year was just a silly mistake. What a great signing though. Again, shall we ?

"P h i N s A N i T y wrote:

Ndamukong Who ?

Starks is Elite, has been for a while now.
Moving him to NT that year was just a silly mistake. What a great signing though. Again, shall we ?

I don't think moving him to NT was a mistake. It's not the best position for him, but neither is playing as a 2-gap 3-4 DE. I'm not sure you can really say one or the other is better because Starks had all of one game there. His best fit is a 1-gap player allowed to get aggressively upfield, like he is now and was when Paul Pasqualoni was here.

He's having a great year. I guess we should forget about trying to resign him though because of our need at the receiver position.

"CitizenSnips wrote:

Positive national exposure...dolphins?

This is what happens when you get a quarterback.

"unifiedtheory wrote:

He's having a great year. I guess we should forget about trying to resign him though because of our need at the receiver position.

The Dolphins have the money to sign him and they should. He is far better than Odrick and they need to sign Starks if they want to continue to be a dominant defensive line against the rush.
I have never understood the individuals who state the Dolphins should trade Starks and move Odrick into Starks position.

If they are going to trade either of these players, it should be Odrick.

It’s Starks’ first such honor and according to the NFL release it’s the first time a Dolphins defensive lineman won the award since Week 11 of the 2006 season when Jason Taylor was selected.

Huh? Taylor was a linebacker that year.

Pay the man!

Starks is a playmaker.
Odrick is a body.

Randy Starks...AFC def player of the week.
= TRADE

"Bpk wrote:

Randy Starks...AFC def player of the week.

TRADE

Starks is only 28 years old. He is a top quality defensive lineman and well worth the Dolphins signing him to another three or four years contract. He is better than Odrick. It makes no sense to trade him or let him go in free agency. The Dolphins need to retain their best players, and Starks is most definitely one of their very best players.

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Pay the man!

!!!

"jw3102 wrote:

Starks is only 28 years old. He is a top quality defensive lineman and well worth the Dolphins signing him to another three or four years contract. He is better than Odrick. It makes no sense to trade him or let him go in free agency. The Dolphins need to retain their best players, and Starks is most definitely one of their very best players.

Exactly. So trade.