It's like ranking the times you got kicked in the balls. As for me, I don't have a favorite instance of being kicked in the balls. I don't particularly like getting kicked in the balls. I don't rank ball kicking unless I'm doing it myself :up:

 

I don't think I could come up with a better ranking. I've seen people get "good vibes" about every new coach so this season, I'm just going to see how things go.

 

The players played hard for Bates. But it's hard to judge an interim spot. I guess Jimmy Johnson was probably the best one. Saban had the potential to be the best one, but would rather bully college kids than take on the challenge of the pros.

 

Can't judge bates at all. Circumstances too different. JJ isn't just the de facto best because everyone else sucked, but he was pretty good if you look back.

JJ, then way way way below is everyone else. It's hard for me to judge Wannstedt, because he messed up so horribly bad, we're still feeling it, and I believe he rode in on JJ's coattails. Any success he had was due to the talent acquired during JJ's reign IMO.

 

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as gameday coaches:

Dave Wannstedt
Jimmy Johnson
Jim Bates
Nick Saban
Cam Cameron

As talent evaluators:

Jimmy Johnson
Cam Cameron
Nick Saban
Dave Wannstedt

 

I can live with that:up:

 

Same here, but I like the Cards this year and it's a far cry from what Cam did to us.

As for the whole differences in talent evaluators/gameday coaches:

Gameday coaches:
Jimmy Johnson
Jim Bates
Nick Saban
Dave Wannstedt
Cam Cameron

Talent evaluators:

Jimmy Johnson
Nick Saban
Dave Wannstedt
Cam Cameron

 

I think Wannstedt gets too much credit for what he did with the talent JJ had put together. He did the same thing with the talent he inherited in Chicago and he turned that team into a pile of crap just like what he did in Miami. I would even put Cam over Wanny as a talent evaluator. But thats JMO.

 

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Ditto!! :up: Wanny is last in all my votes!

 

AWESOME quote! sig material right there. :)

as far as ranking, i'd probably agree with skape's list, but i'd put Wanny ahead of Bates. Bates was the popular "players" coach, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was a good coach.

Wanny was not a personnel guy, but he was a decent coach. it wasn't him alone that tanked this team, so i don't point the finger solely at him.

whatever... i'm just happy vendigo said that line. :lol: :knucks:

 

I aim to please :knucks:

 

I almost blew chunks man. :lol:

Dave Wrongstedt had the right philosophy. Run the ball and play good defense, but he would never trust his OC, and ran the ball way way way too much, and especially in critical situations. I love to run the ball as long as there is some balance but he killed me.

I would surely not put him last but first..... I'll pass

 

Sorry, I don't see anyone better at playcalling than him on the list. It's not that he's good at it, it's just that the rest of them were so horrible at it.

 

Wannstedt above JJ as gameday coach? You sure Wanny's the best playcaller (despite the fact maybe only Cam in that line had called plays?)

 

The most unfortunate part about this, is that a good HC just mangages players, and the clock, and certain spots in the game. A great HC lets his OC/DC run things and add strong input.

 

Me too Ozzy. Wanny's approach were too simplistic and he wasn't good at half time adjustments. He was nothing but a waster of lots of good talent and the worst drafter I could ever imagine.

 

That's basically how I see it. Except I'd put Wanny at the bottom for talent evaluation, even below Cam. Cam's one draft wasn't close to as bad as any of Wanny's feeble attempts.

 

Maybe but I felt Wanny was much better at getting talent through FA and trades than Cam/Mueller. Plus, Cam really only had one draft so it's hard to tell if he would've bungled the next year's draft.