What do you think? Good move? Bad move? He'll be missing Nash quickly once he gets around Starbury.
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I think he will miss Nash but I think New York could benefit from his style of play.
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The Knicks could bring back Red Auerbach from the grave and they would still suck. Isiah ruined the team and it will take years to fix it.
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I think they should have hired Avery Johnson. If Chicago has any brains, they'll bring him in.
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I don't know why they didn't hire Marc Jackson, he wanted the job and would have been an excellent choice IMO.
And I'm not sold on D'Antoni, sure he won over 250 games in five years but with all that God given talent he had who couldn't?alen1 likes this. -
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They're not all that well suited to D'Antoni's preferred style of play. Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson might be well served by helter-skelter basketball, and Fred Jones is the sort of outside shooter he'd love, and David Lee's hustle and hard work will translate well to any system, but that's pretty much it. D'Antoni would favor mobile, active big men who can pass the ball...and only two of those words describe Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph. (Hint: those words aren't "mobile", "active", or "can pass the ball")
Interestingly, D'Antoni coached Marbury very briefly in Phoenix; there was a 13 game overlap between D'Antoni's hire and the Marbury trade. Not much of a history there, but at least D'Antoni has some familiarity with the good, bad and ugly of Marbury's game.
I'm not sure if D'Antoni is the best hire for NY, but he's certainly better than Jackson. Besides, we need Mark at the announcer's table. Breen-Jax-JVG is the best announcing team in years. Stay where you are, Mark! -
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BTW, as long as we're talking about head coaches for the Knicks, or anyone else, for that matter, why not consider Tom Thibodeau? Thibodeau is one of the best defensive coaches in the league, and has been around long enough that he's got the experience to do the job as a head coach.
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He might be able to get the Knicks back on track in a few years when some of those horrid contracts come off the payroll but I think the Knicks problem is a poorly conceived roster with horrible contracts, not coaching.
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I think D'Antoni should have given the Bulls job a better look.NY isn't Phoenix,he may not get the chance(time) to get the type of players he needs to run his offense.JMO
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Jerome James and Quentin Richardson have player options totaling about $16M. They're really going to turn those down? I think not. Not when those two guys would be making $8 per hour at Burger King if the Knicks weren't paying them. (In James' case, he'd probably work for 3 Whopper Meals per hour.) Zach Randolph is due $16M then, and no team in their right mind is going to take his deal on at this point. Jared Jefferies will be due $6.5M then, and the only way they're moving him is taking an equally bad contract in return.
There's some hope in that Eddy Curry and Jamal Crawford both have player options. If those guys thought there was a bigger deal out there, they might turn down those options, and THEN the Knicks would have some cap room to wave at LeBron or Dwyane. However, I'm not sure I see it. Maybe Crawford has some trade value, but I think Curry knows this is about as good as he's going to have it, and will exercise his option.
Of course, the problem is that Nate Robinson and David Lee will be free agents then, too. If you're rebuilding, you should avoid throwing the baby out with the bathwater, i.e. getting rid of two of the closest things you have to true cornerstones. I think Walsh can rebuild the team, but I think that counting on the free agent class of 2010 to get it done is probably not a wise plan. -
Wade isn't leaving South Florida. LeBron might leave Cleveland if they don't win something.
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The Knicks haven't been a good defensive team in a long time, this hire doesn't do anything to make me think that will change anytime soon. :sad::pity:
I miss the days of Patrick and Oak pounding on anyone that dared come near the basket. They took pride in their defense and ability to rebound/block shots, something Curry and Randolph have failed to do.Last edited: May 10, 2008 -
D'Antoni will be coming in with a sick contract - $6mil a year - and will be expected to give results and if things start off badly the fans media could and probably will get on him and we all know NYC ain't Phoenix by a long shot, where as Jackson would probably be given more time to get things together there.
So in this situation I would never say he is certainly better for the job, if we were talking about another city, then yeah, I would agree with you. -
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I think LeBron treats basketball as a secondary venture now. It's just something that enables all of his other revenue streams. If he does think along those lines, then why wouldn't he want to go to New York? He'd make millions more just due to the nature of the market. Furthermore, we do know that LeBron isn't totally happy in Cleveland, that ridiculous house of his notwithstanding.
Wade is pretty loyal to the Heat. He won a championship here, he signed a contract extension already, the person who pushed to draft him is now his head coach, and the team has already moved to make him the premier player by trading Shaq, simultaneously acquiring a possible piece in Marion. I think right now Wade is pretty happy despite the horrible season, because things are looking up. If the Heat can get the first or second pick in this draft, a top four playoff seed is not out of the question... especially with some of the jobber teams in the East. Atlanta? Philthy? Even Noo Yawk is going to take a few years to rebuild. (And that's one reason they'd probably make a huge push for LeBron.)
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If Jackson wanted to pay his dues as an assistant on someone's staff, I'd be all for bringing him in as a head coach a few years down the road. But until then, forget it. -
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Curry might be tradeable, if only because his contract is merely bad, whereas Randolph's is comical. And there are always teams in need of low post scoring. -
If anything he knows more about the X's and O's and handling players NBA players than most assistant coaches in the NBA today. -
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If that's the case, please explain to me how Magic Johnson flopped so badly in his stint coaching the Lakers.
As an assistant, you learn the X's and O's. Yes, Jackson probably knows how to run damn near every offensive set in any given playbook. What he doesn't know is how to teach that to his players. He needs to know what play to call, and when. He needs to know how to light a fire under millionaires who don't want to hear nothin' from nobody. He needs to know how to make his schtick work for 82 games, not just one at a time. It is a completely different job, and a completely different mindset, and the vast majority of guys who have gone right from player to coach have failed. The best NBA head coaches ALL started as assistants. Greg Popovich, Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Larry Brown, Jerry Sloan, etc. It might not take a LONG period as an assistant; Riley and Avery Johnson were both successful head coaches despite relatively short runs as assistants. But for Jackson to be successful, he would almost certainly need to cut his teeth as an assistant first. -
And I never thought Magic had what it took to be a great head coach, in fact I would have been shocked if he did turn into one.
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The Knicks have a long way to go to be the team of Reed, Bradley, Frazier, Dave D., and the rest. D'Antoni can't be any worse than Isiah.
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Obviously, you're dead-set on the idea that Jackson would be a fine head coach without working a day as an NBA assistant, in the face of overwhelming historical evidence to the contrary. I think you're horribly mistaken, but you're certainly entitled to your point of view. -
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Rivers is not a successful coach. He wasn't particularly good with the Magic, and should have been fired last year. He's in the process of trying to screw up the best Boston team in 20 years. Like I said, if you want to cite him as an example of a success, you're proving my point.
Collins was a very ordinary coach.
Larry Bird was a success, but burnt out after three years. Kevin Loughery was a success, albeit in the ABA. He wasn't anything special in the NBA. Nelson is the only unqualified success story of the bunch. And even Nelson (like Bill Russell), basically functioned as an assistant coach in his final few years in the NBA. However, that was a different era. Player-coaches were not unheard of at that time, and coaches commanded a whole lot more respect simply because they were coaches.
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All steps towards bringing Lebron to town.
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So who takes over in Phoenix?
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Seems like Paxson has a thing for Tom Thibodeau, so we'll see.
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Dan Majerle would make a great Head Coach.