Reshad Jones career may be over

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FinatikFinatikmoderatorOP
Jul 20, 2020, 05:08 PM

Reshad Jones has remained a free agent since the Dolphins released him March 18. The safety told Joe Schad of the Palm Beach Post on Monday that he won’t play this season and is uncertain whether he ever will play again. He has a neck injury and surgery is on hold because of the pandemic.

Jones, 32, spoke about his career in the past tense.

“I don’t have any regrets about my 10-year career, saying I should have done this or should have done that,” said Jones, who played only four games last season. “If I play again is still in the air, but you know I feel like I got in and did everything I needed to do.

“A nine-year starter. A fifth-round draft pick. Didn’t get anything handed to me. I had to get in and work for everything. And then I get in and put the numbers up. You go look at sacks, interceptions, tackles, go look at anybody, Eric Berry, Earl Thomas, any top safety, and there is no safety better in the last decade than Reshad Jones.”

Jones made two Pro Bowls in 10 seasons. He never was All-Pro. But Jones argues that voters should have elected him to the All-Decade team, which included Berry, Thomas and Eric Weddle, insisting he “really had Hall of Fame numbers.” Jones ranked first in tackles for loss, first in sacks, first in fumble recoveries, second in solo tackles, third in interceptions and first in touchdowns scored among players at his position from 2010-19, per Schad.

“There is no way I shouldn’t have been on the All-Decade team,” Jones said. “You go look at any safety. Eric Berry, whoever. The numbers can’t compare. They don’t add up.”

Lots of people will tell you what they think about you and what you shouldn't and should do. Not everyone's thoughts are worth consideration. Don't take criticism from anyone who you wouldn't also go to for advice.

KeyFinKeyFinforum_veteran
Jul 20, 2020, 06:16 PM

That's sad- he was excellent when he was healthy. But he has the wrong attitude and I think we would have parted ways even if he was healthy.

Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.

FinatikFinatikmoderator
Jul 20, 2020, 06:55 PM

Looking at those numbers those are impressive.

Lots of people will tell you what they think about you and what you shouldn't and should do. Not everyone's thoughts are worth consideration. Don't take criticism from anyone who you wouldn't also go to for advice.

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_Knightforum_veteran
Jul 20, 2020, 07:12 PM

Football is a violent game and if Jones' injuries are still significant or potentially an issue for future re-injury, than retirement isn't that bad of an idea. In fact, it may be quite smart.

Players have to realize from the day the begin playing football that there has to be a plan for life after football. Football isn't forever and they have to be able to actually LIVE a life rather than just exist in excruciating and agonizing pain day after day.

“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 20, 2020, 09:30 PM

Jones had quite the career. Its kind of cool that it fit entirely within one decade. He was certainly one of the top two players on the Fins the last ten years, along with Wake.

All time, Jones is tied for second in Miami history for most starts as a DB, with 113. (Sam Madison had 127).

He's tied for 9th all time in Dolphins history for most starts among all defensive players, and 12th all time for most games played among all defenders.

Given how often he had the knack for making the big play, it feels astounding that he only had two seasons with more than three interceptions (2012 and 2015). He ranks 12th all time in Miami history with 21 interceptions.

He's tied with Zach Thomas for most INT return TDs, with 4.

resnorresnorforum_veteran
Jul 20, 2020, 09:33 PM

Why can't he have his surgery? Hospitals are back to normal business...I had surgery on my knee almost two months ago.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 20, 2020, 09:38 PM

"resnor wrote:

Why can't he have his surgery? Hospitals are back to normal business...I had surgery on my knee almost two months ago.

The human body can only take so much punishment. Jones has been playing at less than full strength for a while now.

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Jul 20, 2020, 09:42 PM

"resnor wrote:

Why can't he have his surgery? Hospitals are back to normal business...I had surgery on my knee almost two months ago.

I think part of him is done with all that.

KeyFinKeyFinforum_veteran
Jul 21, 2020, 12:12 AM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

I think part of him is done with all that.

Everything he said in that interview was past tense...I had...I was...etc. Even if he hasn't said it out loud yet, Jones has accepted that his career is over and it's time to move onto the next chapter in his life.

I agree with him that he belonged on that all-decade team, and that nod probably would have secured a HOF bid someday. Some players never get that recognition though because of circumstances...it's hard to stand out with 4 or 5 coaches on the same team across your career and zero playoff wins. That shouldn't play a factor but it always does, and the fact that we were average made his top-tier skills a lot less noticeable. It sucks but that's just how it goes in fan/league voting.

Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

"KeyFin wrote:

Everything he said in that interview was past tense...I had...I was...etc. Even if he hasn't said it out loud yet, Jones has accepted that his career is over and it's time to move onto the next chapter in his life.

I agree with him that he belonged on that all-decade team, and that nod probably would have secured a HOF bid someday. Some players never get that recognition though because of circumstances...it's hard to stand out with 4 or 5 coaches on the same team across your career and zero playoff wins. That shouldn't play a factor but it always does, and the fact that we were average made his top-tier skills a lot less noticeable. It sucks but that's just how it goes in fan/league voting.

You're certainly right there. Jones will never get the national recognition that he deserves due to the perception around the franchise. He played for four full time head coaches in ten years, two of whom were fired mid season. He played on one winning team, and took part in one playoff game. Unless you watched the games, you didn't see it, and all but a handful of the big plays that he made came in Sunday 1pm games that weren't nationally televised.

resnorresnorforum_veteran
Jul 21, 2020, 08:46 AM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

The human body can only take so much punishment. Jones has been playing at less than full strength for a while now.

Yeah I get that, but it was started that he couldn't have the surgery due to coronavirus. That doesn't make sense to me.

DEDen54subscriber
Jul 21, 2020, 09:12 AM

Thoughts on ROH?

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 21, 2020, 09:19 AM

"resnor wrote:

Yeah I get that, but it was started that he couldn't have the surgery due to coronavirus. That doesn't make sense to me.

Well, depending where he is, some places are obviously a lot safer than others. Some people are just more cautious too. I've personally cancelled all of my doctors appointments for the rest of the year, because I don't think that its worth the risk. Surgery is even moreso. There could be complications, even with a shoulder.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 21, 2020, 09:20 AM

"Den54 wrote:

Thoughts on ROH?

He has a valid case. I think that both he and Wake will get consideration. I mean, if you aren't going to give it to one of the best players on the team from an entire decade, then you might be too strict.

TheHighExhaultedTheHighExhaultedforum_veteran
Jul 21, 2020, 10:07 AM

Even after he's done with football it's still all about me, me, me.

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Jul 21, 2020, 10:48 AM

We are about 3 years too late to trade him off.. i honestly felt we missed out on an opportunity to trade him to Atlanta last year when Keanu Neal got injured. Reshad would have been back home and probably had his motivation revitalized.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 21, 2020, 11:00 AM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

We are about 3 years too late to trade him off.. i honestly felt we missed out on an opportunity to trade him to Atlanta last year when Keanu Neal got injured. Reshad would have been back home and probably had his motivation revitalized.

The problem with that timing is that he had just signed his huge extension the year before, and it would have caused a huge amount of dead money to hit the Dolphins cap. I had been in favor of trading him before that, but once the deal was done, he wasn't going anywhere.

AGAGuyNamedAlexforum_veteran
Jul 22, 2020, 05:32 AM

Good. I'm not the type to talk shit about former players, especially good ones, but hes just a loser who quit on his team repeatedly. Noone wants his toxic behaviour in their locker room.

He has money, he will live, but I hope that loser never puts on a uniform again. He doesnt deserve the priveledge of being an NFL player.

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_Knightforum_veteran
Jul 22, 2020, 10:00 AM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

The human body can only take so much punishment. Jones has been playing at less than full strength for a while now.

It may be an apples to oranges comparison but I know that towards the end of my military career I was waking up every morning with tons of aches and pains. Now while my career wasn’t as violently physical as a professional football player’s, I would have to think it’s the same thing. I can only imagine the aches and pains their bodies are feeling waking up each and every morning.

“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Jul 22, 2020, 11:19 AM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

It may be an apples to oranges comparison but I know that towards the end of my military career I was waking up every morning with tons of aches and pains. Now while my career wasn’t as violently physical as a professional football player’s, I would have to think it’s the same thing. I can only imagine the aches and pains their bodies are feeling waking up each and every morning.

It is pretty painful just listening to their stories, having watched various interviews from former players and documentaries. Remember Brett Favre had a Vicodin addiction in the 90s, he used to take 15 a day at one point because of all the injuries he played through. Also note That he was the ultimate iron man, never missed a start till very late in his career.

and there are worse examples out there of players suffering pain.

For a lot of players their heart isnt retired, but their brain and bodies are. Andrew Luck’s speech last year told that story.

HIhitman8forum_veteran
Jul 27, 2020, 04:34 AM

"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:

Good. I'm not the type to talk **** about former players, especially good ones, but hes just a loser who quit on his team repeatedly. Noone wants his toxic behaviour in their locker room.

He has money, he will live, but I hope that loser never puts on a uniform again. He doesnt deserve the priveledge of being an NFL player.

Reshad Jones is not a loser, he hated to lose. The team was a loser. You can't blame Reshad for shitty coaching and shitty teammates. When healthy Reshad always put in the work and left it all on the field. He is one of the best, if not the best safety in dolphins history.

HIhitman8forum_veteran
Jul 27, 2020, 04:38 AM

"KeyFin wrote:

That's sad- he was excellent when he was healthy. But he has the wrong attitude and I think we would have parted ways even if he was healthy.

Bad attitude as in he didn't like losing and being misused by the stupid coaches?

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 27, 2020, 11:17 AM

"hitman8 wrote:

Reshad Jones is not a loser, he hated to lose. The team was a loser. You can't blame Reshad for ****ty coaching and ****ty teammates. When healthy Reshad always put in the work and left it all on the field. He is one of the best, if not the best safety in dolphins history.

Highly talented player. There is absolutely no question. But I think that there was always the question of how much of a team player he was. Reshad had great instincts and would often come up with the big play, but even at his best, he was out of position more than you would like and would give up plays to the other team too. His freelancing was a double edged sword that won the team games that absolutely would have lost without him, but also cost them sometimes too.

FinatikFinatikmoderator
Jul 27, 2020, 12:56 PM

Didn't he refuse to going to a game in 2018 because he got pulled? I think that is the lack of being a team player that is referred to.

Lots of people will tell you what they think about you and what you shouldn't and should do. Not everyone's thoughts are worth consideration. Don't take criticism from anyone who you wouldn't also go to for advice.

thetylernatorthetylernatorforum_veteran
Jul 28, 2020, 06:01 PM

Still wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys took a flier on him or Eric Berry.

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