R.I.P George Steinbenner

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finyank13finyank13New MemberOP
Jul 13, 2010, 10:09 AM

R.I.P George Steinbrenner

Died this morning at 80, after suffering a massive heart attack. The Boss, a member of the Air Force, whether you liked him or not, was one of the most successful owners in all of sports. He bought the Yankees in 1973, for a mere 10 million dollars and put them back on top both on the playing field, and in the revenue stream.

As a Yankee fan I always get a kick out of other teams fans telling me how they buy everyone, yada yada. Got to admit how I loved just watching an NBA team do the same exact thing, with glee, and even referred to themselves as an Evil Empire. The question is and always will be when I hear such jealous nonsense, what are you supposed to do as an owner?? Is pocketing the revenue the right thing, and not put it back into the product? The Boss gave us Yankee fans a chance for a winning team every single year, once money became first and foremost, and for that, and not being greedy and richer than he already is in a time where tickets prices are obnoxious, I salute him....at least we saw a good show for the price..

Thanks George for the memories, the atittude, the controversy, Championships, and most of all renewing the rivarly with the Red Sox, hands down the best one in all of sports...:up:

Somewhere I believe even Red Sox fans, and Reggie Jackson are depressed.

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

gunn34gunn34New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 10:16 AM

I didn't know he was in the Air Force. He was smarter then I knew. :wink2:

He was forever immortalized thru the Seinfield episodes. I liked that he wasn't so greedy and spent the money to keep winning.

RIP George.

finyank13finyank13New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 10:33 AM

This is crazy, 168,000?!?!?!

At the same time, the franchise he and a group of 15 limited partners purchased on Jan. 3, 1973 for $8.8 million from CBS (or $4.4 million less than the network had paid for it), skyrocketed in value to over a billion dollars, according to analysts, after Steinbrenner brokered unprecedented worldwide marketing deals for the Yankees and formed his own cable television network (YES) to broadcast the team's games. Steinbrenner's personal initial investment in the team was $168,000.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2010/07/13/2010-07-13_yankees_owner_george_steinbrenner_suffers_a_massive_heart_reports.html#ixzz0tZaOzFIR

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

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Jul 13, 2010, 10:37 AM

One of the worst and then one of the best owners of all-time.

RIP.

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padre31padre31luxury_box
Jul 13, 2010, 10:41 AM

The current Steinbrenner isn't the one I recall, the one I remember fired Billy Martin at a press conference where he was introducing Billy Martin.

He was a colourful dude, I used to enjoy listening to him when things weren't going right for the Yankees.

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Jul 13, 2010, 10:51 AM

Say what you will about King George but he wanted nothing more then to win. He was an opportunist to a degree but I think most people would be thrilled with an owner that was obsessed with winning. I know I would have been thrilled if he owned the Mets.

RIP.

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Jul 13, 2010, 10:55 AM

On Jan. 3, 1973, a group headed by Steinbrenner purchased the Yankees from the CBS, the Columbia Broadcasting Company, for a net of $8.7 million, re-injecting funds -- and more important, hope -- into a franchise that had experienced a period of dormancy in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

At a press conference announcing the deal, Steinbrenner famously told reporters that he did not intend to be a hands-on owner, a statement that Steinbrenner himself would later laugh at.

"We plan absentee ownership as far as running the Yankees is concerned," Steinbrenner said. "We're not going to pretend we're something we aren't. I'll stick to building ships."

....I am glad he stuck to building ships!

:up:

BDH -

"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.

"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

Jimmy V. (Mar '93)

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Jul 13, 2010, 11:01 AM

One statistic will NEVER be broken.
He fired 23 managers in 20 years.
Good thing he had never ending revenue at his fingertips or the Yanks would never have had a winning season in those 20.

finyank13finyank13New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 11:04 AM

"Section126 wrote:

One of the worst and then one of the best owners of all-time.

RIP.


You gotta love this ehh Section??

He once called White Sox owners Jerry Reinsdorf and Eddie Einhorn "those two pumpkins" and "the Katzenjammer twins" (for which he was fined $5,000).

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Jul 13, 2010, 11:07 AM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

One statistic will NEVER be broken.
He fired 23 managers in 20 years.
Good thing he had never ending revenue at his fingertips or the Yanks would never have had a winning season in those 20.

Ahhh, the never ending naivety of the competition.....its this ignorance of understanding who he hired to make decision on and off the field that exactly was behind why he was the head of 7 Championship.

Opponents will forever be blind to his true mastery of playing the game within the game especially in the FA era. I love it, the "buying Championships" line never gets old.:hi5:

BDH -

"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.

"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

Jimmy V. (Mar '93)

finyank13finyank13New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 11:08 AM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

One statistic will NEVER be broken.
He fired 23 managers in 20 years.
Good thing he had never ending revenue at his fingertips or the Yanks would never have had a winning season in those 20.


Gotta love a guy who has the balls to make changes....:lol: plus he got suspended like 4 times, and fined over 600K in the course of his career....besides the owner of your own favorite team, who else comes to mind as easy as Steinbenner who asked who the owner of a certain team is??

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

finyank13finyank13New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 11:11 AM

"BigDogsHunt wrote:

Ahhh, the never ending naivety of the competition.....its this ignorance of understanding who he hired to make decision on and off the field that exactly was behind why he was the head of 7 Championship.

Opponents will forever be blind to his true mastery of playing the game within the game especially in the FA era. I love it, the "buying Championships" line never gets old.:hi5:



hell I could have been a Dolphins fans my entire life, and never have seen one..........wait....:shifty:

Seriously I would trade in all but one Yankees championship in for a Miami SB win right now....

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

Dannyg28Dannyg28New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 11:28 AM

"finyank13 wrote:

Died this morning at 80, after suffering a massive heart attack. The Boss, a member of the Air Force, whether you liked him or not, was one of the most successful owners in all of sports. He bought the Yankees in 1973, for a mere 10 million dollars and put them back on top both on the playing field, and in the revenue stream.

As a Yankee fan I always get a kick out of other teams fans telling me how they buy everyone, yada yada. Got to admit how I loved just watching an NBA team do the same exact thing, with glee, and even referred to themselves as an Evil Empire. The question is and always will be when I hear such jealous nonsense, what are you supposed to do as an owner?? Is pocketing the revenue the right thing, and not put it back into the product? The Boss gave us Yankee fans a chance for a winning team every single year, once money became first and foremost, and for that, and not being greedy and richer than he already is in a time where tickets prices are obnoxious, I salute him....at least we saw a good show for the price..

Thanks George for the memories, the atittude, the controversy, Championships, and most of all renewing the rivarly with the Red Sox, hands down the best one in all of sports...:up:

Somewhere I believe even Red Sox fans, and Reggie Jackson are depressed.

To even insinuate the two are the same is being disingenuous . The yankees are able to field an all-star team because they make more money than everyone else, The heat did it by being smarter than everyone else and being fiscally responsible in the years leading up to this FA period. The yankees don't know what the word fiscal management means when it comes to their player payroll.

finyank13finyank13New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 11:42 AM

"Dannyg28 wrote:

To even insinuate the two are the same is being disingenuous . The yankees are able to field an all-star team because they make more money than everyone else, The heat did it by being smarter than everyone else and being fiscally responsible in the years leading up to this FA period. The yankees don't know what the word fiscal management means when it comes to their player payroll.


It doesnt matter, he(Riles) bought players to win a championship period, they did the same exact thing, salary cap is irrelevant...There isnt a salary cap obviously, as you saw with money and LeBron, it isnt always about it, ever think people want to play for New York as well, the money is the cherry on top...

If there was a salary cap, no doubt Cashman would field a winning team, now that George is out of the way, and has been for a couple of years...

Spending 200 million on their payroll is a bilp to what they actually are worth year to year....it is all relative..

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

TheHighExhaultedTheHighExhaultedforum_veteran
Jul 13, 2010, 11:47 AM

The Boss will be missed.

Dannyg28Dannyg28New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 11:50 AM

"finyank13 wrote:

It doesnt matter, he(Riles) bought players to win a championship period...There isnt a salary cap obviously, as you saw with money and LeBron, it isnt always about it, ever think people want to play for New York as well, the money is the cherry on top...

If there was a salary cap, no doubt Cashman would field a winning team, now that George is out of the way, and has been for a couple of years...

Spending 200 million on their payroll is a bilp to what they actually are worth year to year....it is all relative..

Considering Jeter and A-Rod alone make more money than some team's entire pay roll, i doubt the Yankees would be doing quite as well if there was a salary cap in place.

Again, the heat didn't "buy" anything, we have the same amount of money to work with as any other team in the league, we just used it more wisely.

Every year in baseball you know if a star player is leaving his team, the #1 favorite to get him is automatically the yankees, not because they are the best team necessarily, but ebcause they can just throw money at people. like last free-agency, the Yankees needed pitchers, they just went out and bought the two best FA pitchers available on top of their already enormous pay roll. What other team in the majors can do that than MAYBE the red sox?

A league where only two teams have a chance to become consistently competitive is a boring one. every other team in the majors has to go through rebuilding years, the yankees just buy everyone.

finyank13finyank13New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 12:02 PM

"Dannyg28 wrote:

Considering Jeter and A-Rod alone make more money than some team's entire pay roll, i doubt the Yankees would be doing quite as well if there was a salary cap in place.

Again, the heat didn't "buy" anything, we have the same amount of money to work with as any other team in the league, we just used it more wisely.

Every year in baseball you know if a star player is leaving his team, the #1 favorite to get him is automatically the yankees, not because they are the best team necessarily, but ebcause they can just throw money at people. like last free-agency, the Yankees needed pitchers, they just went out and bought the two best FA pitchers available on top of their already enormous pay roll. What other team in the majors can do that than MAYBE the red sox?

A league where only two teams have a chance to become consistently competitive is a boring one. every other team in the majors has to go through rebuilding years, the yankees just buy everyone.


Again the salary cap is irrelevant, means nothing in this case....they did well to trade away people, and clear cap space yes I agree....however they just went out and grabbed the 2 BEST free agents on the market, spending close to 250 million on them, and one of them the best in the game, if they win a championship, I'm sorry thats buying a championship....salary cap or no salary cap....I wish nothing but the best for the Heat, and hope they do well....but the double standard is funny...

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Jul 13, 2010, 12:03 PM

Thread Officially Derailed.

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Jul 13, 2010, 12:05 PM

It never gets old....I love it.

BDH -

"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.

"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

Jimmy V. (Mar '93)

finyank13finyank13New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 12:09 PM

"lmeister3 wrote:

Thread Officially Derailed.


Exactly, we can go to the NY Yankee Thread, this is about the man himself.

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

Dannyg28Dannyg28New Member
Jul 13, 2010, 12:15 PM

Fair enough, I'll post my response in the Yankee thread.

RIP George, could never say he didn't do all he could to win.

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Jul 13, 2010, 12:20 PM

"Dannyg28 wrote:

Fair enough, I'll post my response in the Yankee thread.

RIP George, could never say he didn't do all he could to win.

Oh, please dont clutter that thread with nonsense!:lol:

BDH -

"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.

"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

Jimmy V. (Mar '93)

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Jul 13, 2010, 12:30 PM

too late, I am ignoring the retreaded ignorance....its George's day.

BDH -

"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.

"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

Jimmy V. (Mar '93)

PhiNominaPhiNominaforum_veteran
Jul 13, 2010, 12:30 PM

Steinbrenner, a Cleveland native, tried to buy the Indians but they wouldn't sell so he bought the Yankees instead.

Such is the life of a Cleveland fan...

FinfangirlFinfangirlluxury_box
Jul 13, 2010, 12:33 PM

Never met the man, but i sure did respect what he did for my favorite baseball team. RIP George.

He surely was the player to benamed later in the Bob shepherd trade. Hopefully he doesnt fire billy again up there.

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