This is great news. Two pro franchises with billionaire owners guarantees a best in class facility. If the Spain v Haiti match and the World Soccer Masters finals draw over 30,000 crowds it should be a no brainer.

 

Cool they can have Sun Life and we can get a new stadium.

Still no idea why people think soccer is fun to watch but whatever floats your boat.

 

Ross & Dee try to convice Beckham to start a Miami MLS team

They should be able to share a stadium pretty easily.

 

$200M each gets a really nice stadium done.

 

Bring back the Miami Fusion?

Awesome.

 

Another sport Miami fans won't attend. Expert maneuver. Not my money, so...

 

They would have to be nuts to open an MLS franchise in Miami and use sunlife as their venue, not nuts, dumb as hell more like it..

Go to portland and see how they do it up there and start a culture the right way, with a proper venue for the sport..they are building these US soccer stadiums all over, their really cool because their cognizant of how important the size is and how close the fans are to the action..

Of course Ross would like anyone to use that morgue..I don't blame him.

 

You're free to move to Miami and fill up all those seats you think are empty.

 

you should watch bayern munich...this will answer your questions

 

Would still cause me to fall asleep every time...

 

Um, Jeld-Wen is a 100 year old baseball stadium that was converted to soccer for a cost of about $30M. They don't have enough bathrooms to add more seats, (or they would, the season ticket wait list is years long and growing) and some seats have restricted views. Don't get me wrong, I love its character, but it's more about location and history than function. Emphasis on location, it’s downtown and right on the light rail line. You're right about Sun's lifes size, they would have to tarp the upper bowl, and soccer fields are bigger so fans will be closer. With the right fan base, that'd be enough.

You're 100% right about the importance of the culture, I just disagree about stadium vs. culture. Jeld-Wen is great because of the culture, not the other way around. The Timbers Army gets their own sections (about 4k seats) right behind the north goal. The Timbers Army is a fan run (not MLS/Timbers) organization that gets to set their own rules for their sections, and they get a portion of the proceeds of the ticket sells in their sections. They set the tone for the stadium. I cannot think of anything analogous in the NFL.

MLS needs management that is willing to work with the fans much more than the more established sports. It also needs fans that want to do more. I don’t know the soccer culture in Miami, but Ross seems to like control. Portland also has a long tradtion and history with the Timbers. The culture here was not built overnight, and endured different owners and leagues.

 

I have, it's still not interesting to me.

 

David Beckham isn't a Billionaire. Not even close. Last time i looked he was worth about $300 million and that's $'s.

 

You should probably read the article before commenting.

 

Ross & Dee try to convice Beckham to start a Miami MLS team

Would there be a Shot at hosting a World Cup sometime in the next 20 years, or is that already predetermined?

That billion dollar windfall may light a fire under state reps asses. Then again, 5 Superbowls in as many years should have too.

 

Yeah I mixed up their culture with some of the new stadiums being built specifically for soccer..

My point is if you are going to start a new sports franchise, in order for that culture to start out right, you will need to have a venue that is condusive to energy, atmoshere, intimacy, these are critical factors in developing the relationship between fans and team, which is critical in having a passionate culture..bad venues suck the passion right out of you, if you don't think these have a tangible negative affect on a culture I completely disagree.

 

Sosa??

 

Love to.
Can you get me a work visa and a job.
$25/hour minimum please.

 

In the next 20 years, possibly. For the next 10 it is already predetermined.

Brazil 2014
Russia 2018
Qatar 2022

However it is very likely USA gets 2026 considering they almost won 2022 and only lost because of Fifa's internal corruption (allegedly)

 

Ross & Dee try to convice Beckham to start a Miami MLS team

Kind of.

Jeld-Wen is an awesome venue IMO for the reasons you listed above (outside of bathrooms). They CAN make it bigger though. Boors Architects did a plan that would add 20,000 seats to Jeld Wen. Would have been badass, but I'm thinking the money at the MAC club may have squashed it.

I'd love to see Jeld Wen enlarged. The density and area are what make that place so special.

On a side note, I've been waiting for Timbers tickets for 2 years. But I LOVE my thorns seats...3rd row.

 

I believe there is a direct correlation between venue and culture, regardless if the place is a dump, your comments about density and area tell me a lot.

 

The problem soccer is there is more flopping than a LeBron James highlight video.

 

Terrible, I think it's something he needs to get away from immediately, not a good look to be carrying that around with you..for some reason flopping on the court really rubs me the wrong way, and I don't recall the great one Jordan, Majic, Kobe, ever doing it at all let alone the degree the current MVP is doing..poor display of leadership.

 

Hell yeah! Bring back the Fusion!!

Sounds like a rumor but I'm hoping for the refusion of Fusion.

 

Kobe and MJ got calls Lebron's never gotten.

I don't like the flopping, however i understand why he uses it. Lebron gets the Shaq treatment. A lot of contact that would otherwise be called, is glossed over because he is so strong.

 

I'm firmly on one side of this topic, you understand why he's cheating to get a call?, there's no question about his talent and what he does for his team, but this is separate and it's not a good look for the current mvp..really think he needs to stop it or the publicity from it is only gonna create a distraction, if it hasn't already, goodness it's the lead story on every program, fans are chanting it in the stadium in unison, it's just not a good stigma to attach yourself to..

 

http://gifsoup.com/view/2151134/kobe-flop.html

 

That's a totally different animal, and you know it :pointlol:

 

It matters not what he does or does not do. He lives in a microscope and everything he does or does not do will be magnified 1000 fold. Everyone has flopped multiple times in this series, on both teams, mostly caused by the horrifically inconsistent refereeing. Yet, only Lebron and Heat players are being focused on. That speaks to something else. And it speaks to no matter what they do, they'll get crapped on.

 

Can they use Marlins Park? Maybe then there would actually be a tenant people liked.

Miami can't match Portland, but they might be able to carve out a good fanbase. They deserve a 2nd chance. But Portland is fantastic...the Timbers regularly sell it out, and their NWSL (new women's league) team the Thorns has more season ticket holders (around 7500) than the Marlins do. I decided to start watching MLS recently, became a Thorns fan because of Alex Morgan, and now a Timbers fan because of it and watching Timbers/Thorns games you just get so sucked into the environment even on a computer stream because the fans are so great. By the way, nice to see another Thorns fan on here.

USA could be likely to host the 2026 world cup. I think Japan will get the 2019 women's world cup, which combined with hosting the men's WC in 2002 might hurt their chances at 2026 (and possible Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympics). And Qatar is also somewhat close to Japan, as is Russia. Think they'll want to come back over here. USA, England, and Canada could be likely. Don't laugh at Canada. They show up big for tournaments. They sold out their women's friendly today against USA in 1 hour. They're going to have a huge 2015 women's world cup attendance & that could boost their chances at the men's world cup.

 

Ross & Dee try to convice Beckham to start a Miami MLS team

Totally agree. The Timbers play smack on the middle of downtown in an old historic stadium. If you sit on the east side you can look across the stadium and see the MAX line and tall building in the background. People take mass transit early and get droppe off at the front gate of Jeld Wen. Then they get to watch an awesome game in a small stadium packed with fans, walk to a bar afterwards, and take the train home.

The Timbers Army puts in a hell of a show, they chant and dance the whole time waving flags. There are great seats that cost a lot, or cheap seats in GA in the Army section.

All in it a fantastic time. Wish I had season tickets to the Timbers (2nd year on waiting list). But I LOVE the Thorns games. It's an absolute blast to see the women out there. We still pack 14k people into the stadium. I sit in the 3rd row, right outside of the box. Alex Morgan and Sinclair fully on display. Seats are $15.00 each. It's an absolute blast. I hope the womens soccer league is here to stay.

Oh yeah...and the best part...is the women DON'T FLOP NEARLY as much as the men. It's not even close :)

My comparison, I watched The Chicago fire a lot when I was out in Chicago (when they were good, and Bradley was their coach). Not sure how big the stadium was, but it was a ghost town. Middle of nowhere, tons of empty seats, and 1/10th the energy.


Jeld-Wen is something special.

 

Do you have link to that? I don't see how they could double the seating capacity. They'd have to do a completely new stadium. I googled and found nothing. As for the MAC club, they own the land that the south end of the stadium is on. If I remember correctly, out to about the penalty box, so they could put the kybosh on any changes they didn't like.

 

MLS has been trying for 10 years to get away from using NFL stadiums...

 

lol.thats how ridiculous this sh&$ is, no reason for the MVP to lower himself to that level..which he has been doing pretty consistently.

 

He's adopted your strategy enough, not just against the pacers...it's gross for a player of this caliber to be resorting to this..once again I don't think it's sets a good example of leadership and maturity.