Good, knock him out of office

 

While I'm morally repulsed (and have been for some time) by the entirety of our political system and how our government is bought and paid for by the wealthy to further their own agendas...at the very least this shows Ross is dedicated to keeping the team in Miami.

 

I wonder if Ross' plan to use the PAC to support Rick Scott is enough to make me no longer be a Dolphins fan. Something to think about.

 

I like rick scott. Remember when he was like **** the aca...................and then was like I love aca? That was funny.

 

I take it you despise Rick Scott?

 

LOL not gonna happen.

 

Reminded me of the political stuff in Boardwalk Empire.

 

Not a Rick Scott fan at all. Not a fan of any present day politician TBH. But I can respect a man who's trying to do some good, even if he has to deal with some unsavory folks to get it done. It's not he didn't try the (somewhat) high road first.

 

Did you become a Dolphins fan because of Joe Robbie's politics?

 

The difference here being Steve Ross is forming a PAC which will attempt to directly influence the Rick Scott re-election bid, and by giving money to the Miami Dolphins and to Steve Ross I would feel like I am indirectly supporting that bid.

But I guess being a sports fan means renouncing your rights to stand up for what you believe in?

 

Actually yeah it does. If you are a Pats fan that thinks circumcision is a brutal, barbaric ritual and that Christianity has brought nothing but ruin to the globe, do you choose another team post-Tebow signing? That's up to every person I suppose

 

His first bit of business was to fly out to California because he got wind that an up and coming house speaker was available. Despite having one already in Florida, Ross and his team tried desperately to convince the CA Representative to come to Florida.

Unfortunately, the rep decided to stay local, leading the Northern California district he represents, to a new found prosperity while our rep continued to flounder...

 

Interesting.

I've always said that if we signed someone like big Ben or Mike Vick, I'd not root for the team while those players are here.

....But I think that is different than the politics of the owner.

....Then again, I guess there's a difference between the politics of the owner and the owner actively getting someone elected.

....OTOH, how much am I contributing to Ross' pocket? I think it would be pretty difficult to trace my dollars from my pocket to Ross' to the campaign to get Scott re-elected to quantify if those dollars actually convinced a single person to vote differently thereby cancelling out my vote against Scott.

 

It's pretty hard for me to imagine any thing that would sway my loyalty to this team but that's just me.

 

I'm catholic and if the anti-christ himself was signed as QB I'd support the team if he could throw the ball on a rope and dissect a defense like a moyel.

 

2 Superbowls. Minimum.

 

Could someone summarize why this Rick Scott is a douche?

 

One of my fave things about sports is that people can put aside race, gender, religion, politics, etc and just root for their favorite team.

Having said that, Ross knows full well that the Tri-County area is one of the biggest/most left leaning metropolises in the country AND the people are more unlikely than ever to approve public funding after the Marlins fisasco. He's not going to go overboard supporting Rick Scott, only to get the bill to the floor and have it smashed b/c he pissed off the people who actually have to vote for it.

 

Reasons

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Isn't this a complete exercise in futility?, to put it in the hands of the citizens?, knowing what we know about this situation, I wouldn't do anything that had to do with my fate relying on thepublic vote.p in this town.

 

For a wildly successful billionaire, it's amazing how much of a loser Stephen Ross is. Maybe it's just the Dolphins, politics, and/or Dolphins-related politics, but he can't back a winning horse, and no one seems to respect him much. He gets turned down, jilted, left at the altar, whatever you want to call it, and half the time he opens his mouth it is something dumb.

Here's hoping the Dolphins can reverse his losing trend that, because it sure as hell doesn't look like it's going to work with this latest effort. Seriously, Rick Scott? Why not pump 10,000 volts into a dead cat?

 

He is pretty much an exaggerated political characterature given life to people to the left of Mussolini, and he should probably be in jail for his business dealings.

 

I'm not really sure what would make me withdraw my support for the team.

Political speech would be pretty far down on my list if I were to make one. It have to be pretty egregious

Yeah I think we are pretty safe. Exactly five people like Scott.



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He's a billionaire so apparently he's either somewhat smart or the luckiest man in world history. IMO he has no choice but to bend the knee for the governor, nothing will happen without Scott's approval. I suppose he could put his weight behind getting Scott canned but that won't help him until after the next election, at which point he'd be bending the knee again for whomever supplants Scott. Not even billionaires have hundreds of millions lying around so he can't pay for the renovations himself, most likely he still owes a large sum from purchasing the franchise to begin with. All of Dade and Broward stands to benefit from having Miami as a perennial Super Bowl venue, but it's a Democratic leaning area so any Republican administration will be driving a hard bargain. JMHO.

 

The Big Eared One strikes again. I have said this multiple times but it should be repeated...the Miami Dolphins are run by a group of morons in Stephen Ross, Mike Dee and Jeff Ireland. We'll never win with these a-holes in charge.

 

Stephen Ross does not support Republicans only. He is pretty pragmatic in terms of party affiliation IMO.

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Hailing from CA and this Florida race being very local, I don't know why either. I was just wondering if it was a bunch of people on one side calling the guy on the other side crazy. So I'm looking around for articles. Not much to find (except his approval numbers are low but rising).

I did find this:

The article notes he is trying to expand Medicaid and teacher salaries. Of course he's going to lose. Democrat party won't like him stealing their thunder, Republican party won't like his budget handling!

 

He supported Mitt Romney. He did not support Obama. So, baloney.

 

I am major fan of one. Bernie Sanders. IMO, we need 59 more senators just like him. One of my Oregon senators is pretty much in lock step on votes with Sanders, so I guess I'd say I'm a fan of his too.

 

In terms of giving, from 2010 to 2012, here's a breakdown I compiled (I'm not sure why I spent the time doing this):

$48,450 - NY Dems
$65,000 - NY GOP

$158,300 - National GOP

$50,000 - "Let's Get to Work" PAC supporting Rick Scott
$10,000 - "Floridians for Economic Leadership" - ???? (Excluded because I can't find mention of this anywhere)

Totals:
GOP: $273,300
Dems: $48,450

Sources:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/campaign-finance/contrib.asp#criteria
http://www.opensecrets.org/usearch/...10677907462955562473:nlldkv0jvam&cof=FORID:11
http://www.elections.ny.gov:8080/pl...AMOUNT_from=1&AMOUNT_to=10000000&ORDERBY_IN=N

 

Do you honestly believe that's even remotely similar, or were you just completely bullsh-tting for argument's sake?

 

I hate Scott, but until the Dolphins stand up and thank him on the field I will support the team.

That said, I am not buying any new merch at this point until Scott is out of office at least. I won't financially support the owner's decisions at this time, even though I love the team and feel it is on the upswing.

 

The problem I have here, and perhaps someone can dispel me of false notions (feel free), is if Ross is forming his own PAC that plans to support Rick Scott, then I feel like if I spend money on the Miami Dolphins, that money could go into that PAC and support Rick Scott.

Y'all try and pretend this is some kind of kumbaya let's all get together and smoke peace pipes, celebrate the colors of the rainbow and watch players of every religion score touchdowns bullsh-t. It's not. The formation of a Political Action Committee changes that because it has the potential to use organization money (i.e. money I give to the Dolphins by being a fan) to give direct support to candidates of their choosing, and evidently one candidate they've chosen is Rick Scott.

Am I wrong on that? I don't pretend to know all the answers on this kind of issue. Let me know if I'm wrong. It'll certainly make me feel better.

 

That would be an uncharacteristic knee-jerk reaction by you, especially given how many owners, coaches, and players all publicly support left-wing politicians, causes, and campaigns.

 

How much do you spend a year on the Dolphins? Then how much of that actually hits Ross' pocket? Then how much of that goes into the PAC?

 

You said:

Tebow is an example of some fans having to put their personal beliefs aside for the teams they root for..

Here is a list of candidates Wayne H. apparently supported http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/Wayne_Huizenga.php

Dan Quayle, uber-evil GW Bush and his henchwoman Katherine Harris, Mitch McConnell, even alleged sexual predator Mark Foley

It never ends.

 

You don't see a difference between Huizenga's own private donations versus a Political Action Committee?

 

Hard to say. If you pay for Sunday Ticket doesnt that get filtered to all the teams?