11 Million for the upcoming season.
Editorial: This is a mistake. This kicking of the can down the road never works. We are overpaying as well for the luxury of being able to fade a serious injury.
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I agree. I was hoping they might make a run at guys like Tarell Brown or Sam Shields.
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Just remember that this doesn't preclude making a deal. Quite frankly we had to do the deal. Patterson is probably cap bait...........and paying for Nolan isn't right cause I think that's the best we ever see of Nolan. He's a #4 guy who will earn #2 money. Our draft picks haven't shown anything yet. Deal had to be made.
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I think its an indication that the team does not have much confidence in signing Grimes or any other of the FAs available.This is a team whose reputation has been damaged and who has a lame duck HC .We may see a situation where players will prefer to go elsewhere unless the compensation is considerably better.
If Marino is hired in some capacity that perception may change.He has credibility.dirtywhiteboy likes this. -
I support, but, I'd rather have them spend that $19M rollover on paying off Wallace, Hartline, Wheeler, Ellerbe, so they can be cut next year.
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guess we'll have to see how this plays out ... but I'm sure that Grimes wants a longer contract then we are willing to give ...
I know I wouldn't give him more than 2 years ... so Franchising for self protection is ok .... I'm not as excited about Grimes as a lot of folks here are .....
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Is this a strategy? I would rather 3 years at 24ish. I think he can be a stud for two more years, good for a year or two after that. If he wanted four years the price would have to come down a bit.
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I am disappointed. I was really hoping they would get a deal done with him, then use the tag on either Starks or Soliai. In case anyone forgot, our Run Defense was 24th in the league. Not good!! And if we lose both of those guys then the Dolphins now have to use a high draft pick on a DT when they already have so many holes.
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Grimes badly wants a long term deal. When he was in Atlanta is was a big thing, and until he gets it he won't be happy, franchise money be damned.
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Well Miko hasn't freaked yet..................but that might be because she's dealing with more 'sensitive' issues (LMAO @ her latest tweet).
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finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member
Franchising CBs is bad, the cap number is pretty outrageous. If he signs the one year deal and we don't get a longer term deal done this is a very bad deal. The front office instability probably made it impossible to get anything done during the season so it is what it is I guess.
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Anyone know who reported this news about grimes being tagged? I can seem to find it anywhere besides this thread.
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That's expensive. Eesh.
But the alternative was also pretty unpleasant...giving him something like $18 million guaranteed money when he's entering an age at which corners typically start falling off quickly.finyank13 likes this. -
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Wait is this supposed to be a secret Section? You posted this on the Main Forum. I'm not seeing it anywhere else. I don't want to say stuff on twitter about it if you intended for this to be a limited release of info.
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MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member
Seems like this is kind of early for officially designating Franchise players.
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I thought this stuff for April 1st only.
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The amount is more than 11 mil. Does anyone know for absolute sure that we only have to pay the first time amount.
Atlanta franchised him as well.
Do we have to give him the 120%???
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So is DE/DT Ropati Pitoitua IMO. At 6'8 315 Pitoitua would make a nice bookend at 5-tech to Jared Odrick. Pitoitua also added 4 sacks playing 4-3 end for the Titans last year playing on mostly run downs. You could almost say Pitoitua broke out last year but I think he could be even better playing 5-tech in the 3-4.
Also, I believe AJ Francis's best position will be 5-technique.
Woods and Pitoitua would be mid-tier FA's. Pitoitua would cost more because he played more last year and accumulated more stats but Woods is younger and has a very high ceiling IMO. I would guess they are both in the 2-4 mil a year zone. I would give Woods a five year and Pitoitua a 4 year.
Then draft Caraun Reid to rotate and be used as interior pass rusher, and DE/5-tech Brent Urban to compete and perhaps beat out Odrick in the future. These two players are projected to be 4th and 5th round picks respectfully.
A couple other guys to use a late round picks on are NT/0-tech Beau Allen who is grossly underrated IMO and who has experience playing NT in a 3-4 scheme, and OLB Tyler Starr, who, if he wasn't small school, would probably be projected in the 2nd, but is ridiculously projected 7th round/FA.
Dolphins would need some extra late round picks even if we get a comp.
Dolphins should trade down a couple times early and add some picks. Draft Moses Morgan to play RT and sign a LT and two OG's or a OG and center Mack if he gets loose in FA.
Use Misi as a ILB thumper and Jordan as a Will LB/Joker and get Wheeler completely out of the starting rotation and keep Ellerbe off the field on passing downs. Relegate Wheeler to a backup/ST's role and cut him in 2015.
If they do end up using over 13 mil in cap room on Grimes, then I have instantly lost confidence in Hickey, because that is a fools move considering the needs in other places.
The Dolphins desperately need a better RB corps as well, and Toby Gerhart would be three times the back Daniel Thomas is.
If they blow 13 mil in space on one guy there won't be enough to get the other moves done.
They could sign Woods,Pitoitua,Gerhart, and Clemons or another upper mid tier DB all for the cap room it will take to franchise Grimes.
It wouldn't be as bad as the Wallace deal IMO, but it would really be a damn crazy move. I really hope this report isn't true, because it will make improving the rest of the roster so incredibly difficult.
And they intend to keep Matt Moore at 5.5 mil, and have yet to release Patterson.
This is really looking like Ireland type presumption and arrogance. This gives me the willies.
I envision an enormous sign saying...........wrong way.
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