[Rumor] Dolphins sending trade offers to teams; MJD is a target...

A play that I've always liked that I cant ever remember us running in the last few years is the TE Screen. And with a guy like Clay, who is a good runner with the football... I would think that could be a pretty effective play.

Plus, unlike the WR screen... it wouldnt require our linemen to get as far out to block.

Just a thought....

Well statistically speaking Tannehill has thrown 18 passes behind the line of scrimmage, out of 170 "aimed" passes. I guess those aren't all screens but it suggests we've run screen plays perhaps more than just the one time.

Incidentally they gained 142 yards on those 18 throws. That's not bad. I think the Wallace screen and the Thigpen screen probably bring the average up though.

I just see poor deception when we run screens, especially by the Qb, sometimes you have to adjust your arm angle on those screens, have to have a little swiftness back there contorting your body, little more acting involved, it needs to be sneaky, then fast, and I don't see either, hell it's futile on the right asking those slugs to get out in front..

Which is ironic because the right side is where we had the success with the Wallace screen and I believe that's the side Thigpen sprung his 50 yarder.

"SICK wrote:

And we havent done it since......... :pity:

Yes we have, we did it vs Baltimore in fact. Wallace got like 8 or 9 yards.

"Stitches wrote:

Yes we have, we did it vs Baltimore in fact. Wallace got like 8 or 9 yards.

That's better than they're getting running behind that pair over there! People are complaining about the RB - but I have seen far too many Defensive Line Committee meetings at the line of scrimmage or 1-2 yards in our back field.

"RoninFin4 wrote:

Where does he rate in terms of run-defending? Just curious. I'd imagine he had a pretty solid grade vs. the run from the Baltimore game.

His best run defense game has been NO by far. He was a 1.9 in that game. Vs Balt he was a -0.1. Our run defense got high ratings overall vs Balt, and OV was one of the lowest. They gave Starks a 3.6, Soliai a 3.4, Odrick a 2.6, Wheeler a 2.5 and Shelby a 1.4.
When one looks at the overall defense and offense ratings, compared to those of the Ravens, it is surprising we lost this game. We were a 26.7 on defense and a -5.3 on offense. Balt was a 9.0 on defense and a -15.5 on offense. They beat us only on ST with a 7.9 while we were a -1.8. Don Jones struggled with a -5.0 on STs

"ckparrothead wrote:

Well statistically speaking Tannehill has thrown 18 passes behind the line of scrimmage, out of 170 "aimed" passes. I guess those aren't all screens but it suggests we've run screen plays perhaps more than just the one time.

Incidentally they gained 142 yards on those 18 throws. That's not bad. I think the Wallace screen and the Thigpen screen probably bring the average up though.

Did Thiggy catch that long gainer behind the line? I was thinking he was a little past it?

"MrClean wrote:

His best run defense game has been NO by far. He was a 1.9 in that game. Vs Balt he was a -0.1. Our run defense got high ratings overall vs Balt, and OV was one of the lowest. They gave Starks a 3.6, Soliai a 3.4, Odrick a 2.6, Wheeler a 2.5 and Shelby a 1.4.
When one looks at the overall defense and offense ratings, compared to those of the Ravens, it is surprising we lost this game. We were a 26.7 on defense and a -5.3 on offense. Balt was a 9.0 on defense and a -15.5 on offense. They beat us only on ST with a 7.9 while we were a -1.8. Don Jones struggled with a -5.0 on STs

Wow, that's surprising. I would've guessed his Baltimore game was better than his game against the Saints.

I know I'm probably in the minority, if not the only one, who thinks Miami ought to try and get Soliai, Starks, and Odrick on the field at the same time...unfortunately there's literally no depth behind them now with Marvin Austin gone. I miss the 3-4. There, I said it.

Btw, what is Johnny U advertising in your sig pic?

"RoninFin4 wrote:

Wow, that's surprising. I would've guessed his Baltimore game was better than his game against the Saints.

I know I'm probably in the minority, if not the only one, who thinks Miami ought to try and get Soliai, Starks, and Odrick on the field at the same time...unfortunately there's literally no depth behind them now with Marvin Austin gone. I miss the 3-4. There, I said it.

Btw, what is Johnny U advertising in your sig pic?

Royal Crown Cola.

Edit: not quite as bad as when some football players back then appeared in cigarette ads.

I never noticed how much Johnny U looked like Rodger from Doug Funny, maybe because its the first time I've ever seen him in color lol.

"MrClean wrote:

Royal Crown Cola.

Edit: not quite as bad as when some football players back then appeared in cigarette ads.

He wasn't in ads, but the Bengals had a TE in the early 2000s that used to smoke like a chimney - Sean Brewer, I think. Always surprised me that a guy could play in the NFL and smoke packs a day.

don't know why they would trade him (Michael Roos) but it would be a major upgrade. this unequivocally would be the only rumor I'd like to see come to pass into a reality.

"Michael Roos has become one of the NFL’s top tackles and one of the franchise’s building blocks. Roos’ size (6-7, 313 pounds), athleticism and intelligence have made him one of the premier left tackles in the league. He also has been among the most durable of all current linemen, registering starts in all but one game in his first eight seasons—15 games at right tackle and 112 contests at left tackle. During that time period, his efforts helped the Titans allow the fourth-lowest number of sacks in the NFL (207) behind only the Indianapolis Colts, New Orleans Saints and New York Giants. Titans running backs accumulated seven individual 1,000-yard rushing seasons in Roos’ first eight seasons. Roos has appeared in the Pro Bowl and has been named first-team Associated Press All-Pro (2008)".

the Roo-option is the only viable rumor I would support at this point in the season

http://www.titansonline.com/team/roster/Michael-Roos/d7b2107c-3833-4706-a818-e64ded597f9c

ditto

"MrClean wrote:

Royal Crown Cola.

Edit: not quite as bad as when some football players back then appeared in cigarette ads.

my all-time favorite QB... as kid playing football, my team was on "Meet the Colts" with John Unitas. I caught a half-back pass coming out of the backfield that day. it was the highlight of my young football experience.

"Clark Kent wrote:

I can't believe we let Reggie Bush walk for nothing, when signing him would of been easy, and we're now potentially (key word) in the market for a RB that may end up costing draft picks.

"Nappy Roots wrote:

As much as I was OK with this move at the time, it had more to do with the belief that they KNEW Miller was ready. This move is going to go down as a pretty obvious negative against Ireland. I can't believe they let him walk without a concrete answer there.

Actually, it had more to do with the fact that Reggie Bush is a below average zone runner and simply didn't fit their running scheme. Plus, they don't throw the ball to the backs much, so his receiving skills would have been misused. Back in 2009, only 15% of Green Bay's targeted passes were to the running backs. Miami threw to their backs 20% of the time that year.

"RoninFin4 wrote:

He wasn't in ads, but the Bengals had a TE in the early 2000s that used to smoke like a chimney - Sean Brewer, I think. Always surprised me that a guy could play in the NFL and smoke packs a day.

Many former NHL players used to have cigarettes between every period , such as Guy Lafleur and Dale Hawerchuk .

"MrClean wrote:

Royal Crown Cola.

Edit: not quite as bad as when some football players back then appeared in cigarette ads.

That and a moon pie was the comfort snack of that time.

I remember that Rod Carew liked RC Cola and wanted to endorse the product and iirc he was miffed when that didn't happen.

"MrClean wrote:

His best run defense game has been NO by far. He was a 1.9 in that game. Vs Balt he was a -0.1. Our run defense got high ratings overall vs Balt, and OV was one of the lowest. They gave Starks a 3.6, Soliai a 3.4, Odrick a 2.6, Wheeler a 2.5 and Shelby a 1.4.
When one looks at the overall defense and offense ratings, compared to those of the Ravens, it is surprising we lost this game. We were a 26.7 on defense and a -5.3 on offense. Balt was a 9.0 on defense and a -15.5 on offense. They beat us only on ST with a 7.9 while we were a -1.8. Don Jones struggled with a -5.0 on STs

A couple BS PI penalties come to mind, too.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Which is ironic because the right side is where we had the success with the Wallace screen and I believe that's the side Thigpen sprung his 50 yarder.

Pouncey got out in front of that but your right I do believe Clabo had a good block on the play...

Meh

Johnny U looks TINY!!

"KB21 wrote:

Actually, it had more to do with the fact that Reggie Bush is a below average zone runner and simply didn't fit their running scheme. Plus, they don't throw the ball to the backs much, so his receiving skills would have been misused. Back in 2009, only 15% of Green Bay's targeted passes were to the running backs. Miami threw to their backs 20% of the time that year.

I think it was an excellent & courageous decision. Miller is the future, sooner he gets on the field & gets some carries the better. would like to Thigpen work into a passing threat out of the backfield or change of pace back. the problem for Miller has been not opening an initial crack in the defense for him to slip through (the push) or sealing off (pulling) the defense by the offensive line . Lamar Miller is bigger, stronger & faster than Bush. no way can he be judged fairly by the first five games. its' still early in the season

I find it disturbing that everyones thoughts seem to on acquiring older players who are in obvious decline.

Haven't we learned anything from Colombo and Clabo?

"Philbinfan wrote:

I find it disturbing that everyones thoughts seem to on acquiring older players who are in obvious decline.

Haven't we learned anything from Colombo and Clabo?

These are the consequences of building a unit as important as the offensive line so poorly, their struggles hurt the entire offense, now desperation sets in and you feel like you have no choice but to look for other teams for help.