Anybody who sells gambling picks on their website is absolutely not an "insider".

 

Yeah, I was about to post the same thing. Kinda bizarre. Not sure what Giddings would know about being a GM outside of scouting personnel.

 

Did Jeff Ireland go along this time? ;)

 

Will play out how it plays out.

Ross can be impulsive.

 

My take:

-Could be asking about the overall level of talent on the team
-Could be asking about talent in the draft

 

The name of the company apparently is Pro Scouts, Inc, not Scouts, Inc which is ESPN's company.

 

Well, the guy was vouched for by Marc Kohn, who is definitely plugged in.

In doing some research on Pro Scout (giddings company) it seems likely that we are already paying them anyway to perform the first level scouting.

Now, I have no idea if the guy would be a good GM, since there is much more to it than scouting, as Ireland has proved, but I sort of like the outside the box thinking here, if the story is true. Much like I loved the Dave Toub/Mike McCoy interviews last year.

 

Ireland haters will be willing to take that bet!

 

Apparently, the Pro Scout system was set up 30 years ago by Giddings father, whow as the coach at Utah for two seasons in the 60's and founded the company in the 80's.

Fisher and the Rams use him and Fisher had Giddings, Jr. in the meeting with Les Snead after Fisher first got the STL job. Apparently they consult for 15-20 NFL teams.

Again, it's interesting outside the box thinking. Of course, that kind of thinking once led the Fords to hire Matt Millen....

 

Yeah it looks like Giddings is a consultant to half the league. I kinda like the outside the box thinking on this.

 

...and apparently a similar record in St. Louis despite already having a QB of the future, great draft spots, and a supposed all-world great HC in Fisher.

 

Carl Peterson must approve of Jeff Ireland or he would be gone by now.

 

I am pretty good about verifying sources..and nobody knows this guy.

But I will say this...WHO would make something like this up? That alone makes this very likely true.

 

Assuming this is true, then a gambling-tout being privy to any type of NFL front office information is extremely disturbing and a huge problem for the league.

 

The same person who says things like this:

 

What does this have to do with anything?

I'm just trying to give context on who the guy is, just in case there are in fact legs to this story.

 

Payne could have gotten the info from somebody inside Pro Scout.

 

Right, and a gambling-tout being associated with Pro Scout is a huge problem for the NFL.

If there is one thing that the NFL cares about, it is preventing any type of connections like this. What other information could Pro Scout be giving this guy?

 

I agree with your thinking.

I mean you really have to google Mike Giddings Jr. to get a sense of who he is, and it is highly unlikley that most people would even have heard of him.

He doesn't appear to do many interviews, Pro Scout doesn't have a public website that I can find, the guy has no wikipedia page, nothing.

In short, he's a serious professional consultant who gets his business through referrals. He's not Russ Lande (who I like) that will go on every radio show in the world during draft season.

 

I'm not for Ireland getting fired.

But those that are will tell you that they think Jeff Ireland has no chance of succeeding, so taking a roll of the dice is better than keeping him.

 

How do you think Las Vegas gets their information?

Let's not be naive Stringer. Las Vegas has more inside info then the public and it has to come from the teams.

 

Not really.

A Gidding meeting with Ross rumor? So sexy. I wonder how the NY Times resists putting this on the front page!

Biggest stories of the last 50 years:

A) Kennedy Assassination
B) Watergate
C) 9/11
D) Ross meeting with Gidding.

 

You're right, it has nothing to do with anything. No one brought up Fisher using him and no brought up this guy being interviewed for the GM position...so its ridiculous for me to post what I did.

 

Certainly it will remain to be seen, but I see no reason why a guy with this type of scouting background (more than Jeff Ireland had when became our GM) couldn't do just as good a job as Ireland and could possibly be better.

Ireland had never negotiated a contract or a trade prior to coming here. He learned that on the job, much like Giddings would have to, but it isn't rocket science. You have to be a good bluffer, know the real values, etc.

 

No, but I am very happy to be in the Fireland side until he proves he learned for the last two years.

 

No nap today?

 

Especially if one considers all the FA's and signing bonuses that Ross will have to pen in order to keep guys.

Ross may like Ireland, but when tens of millions are on the line asking another opinion of someone respected in the league makes sense.

FWIW, I'm neutral/leaning positive on Ireland, if he is fired it would not surprise, if retained it would not surprise.

Felt we had to win either the SF game or the second NE game for Ireland to really be locked in.

 

Other thing is, Mike Silver usually breaks stuff like this.

 

What does Fisher going 7-6-1 this eyar have to do with giddings potentially being a candidate for our gM job?

I assume you read my post, but again, I only brought up Fisher to point out the FACT that Fisher has used this guy's servcies before. I didn't suggest that the guy gave Fisher good advice or bad advice, or that Fisher took any of his recommendations at all. I simply pointed out that Fisher felt it was worthwhile to have Giddings in the meeting with Snead to asses the Rams roster.

And regardless of whether you think Fisher is a great coach or not, he certainly is a credible one, and his view on a personnell guy is at least worth hearing

 

No..effing work needing to be done when I want to nap. Work sucks.

 

Computers/sophisticated modeling.

A. This guy is a tout. He's not big-time. He scams people into paying him for picks. He's not Billy Waters.

B. If he truly was getting inside information, he surely would not be posting it on Twitter.

 

If you read it on the world wide web it has to be true!

Ross must be close to signing this guy, after all why else would they meet up.

Mod Edit: Not appropriate.

 

Mark Kohn isn't plugged in into anything.