Ryan Tannehill’s struggles in divisional road games mirror those of Miami Dolphins

Yeah well it's time to change all that. Remember Houston? Yeah.. we beat them after being winless for like forever! We can break the trend with Buffalo too. Gotta do it for the sake of this board!

Yet another clutch stat where he's lacking, 2-7(can't count the game he was injured early) in games that really mean something.

"cbrad wrote:

Yeah well it's time to change all that. Remember Houston? Yeah.. we beat them after being winless for like forever! We can break the trend with Buffalo too. Gotta do it for the sake of this board!

Yep. Like a said, as well as before they played the Texans, streaks are meant to be broken. This will be our time.

One game isn't going to break any trends, if we win this game he's still 3-7.

playoff atmoshere, on the road..wucha gonna do when protection breaks down {cause it always does and it always will}..sit in the pocket like a statue even though you know its comin, or do something about it? your move.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

The thread title is correct. His poor play in these games does mirror the team's poor play. Has our line played particularly well in those games? How many rushing yards to we have in Orchard Park the last three years?.

Yes, it's been a complete and total pile of s--t in those games with our boy standing on top. I agree.

No, he HAS been terrible in those games. No excuse, no sugar coating. In fact....he's terrible in division games as a whole...home or away, doesn't matter.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

The thread title is correct. His poor play in these games does mirror the team's poor play. Has our line played particularly well in those games? How many rushing yards to we have in Orchard Park the last three years?

I know he's got to get better, but that 3-7 mark is a Miami Dolphins record. Not a Ryan Tannehill record.

So the rest of the team is throwing all those INTs? This clearly shows that Tanne plays below his own standards in these games.

He's terrible vs. the division because they don't let him get away with the short stuff ...... particularly on the road.

"djphinfan wrote:

playoff atmoshere, on the road..wucha gonna do nwhen protection breaks down {cause it always does and it always will}..sit in the pocket like statue even though you know its comin, or do something about it?

Whilst we have similar evaluations on players and this player and I would love for him to be that dual threat guy or whatever by using his ability to run, the thing is, I don't think that will ever happen. Yeah, he was a WR in college, but whenever he does decide to run, it's not that good. Yeah, he has good straight line speed, definitely, but that's about it. He doesn't possess that lateral movement and agility. He certainly doesn't have much wiggle to him. He also doesn't seem to possess that instinct to do so and I don't think that's because of coaching. ONLY as far as running, up until this point, he has really just been Henne 2.0. We have to just hope that he becomes a superior pocket passer. It may suck, but I think it's true. It's the way it is.

Yeah, I mean, it certainly seems realistic to have expected the QB who everyone knew needed time to develop, to go into divisional games and carry the team, right out of the gate. With a terrible oline. And suspect receivers. And bad coaching.

I agree he needs to play better, but, again, to put all the onus on him is silly. A young, developing QB needed help...and he rarely got it.

"Sceeto wrote:

Whilst we have similar evaluations on players and this player and I would love for him to be that dual threat guy or whatever by using his ability to run, the thing is, I don't think that will ever happen. Yeah, he was a WR in college, but whenever he does decide to run, it's not that good. Yeah, he has good straight line speed, definitely, but that's about it. He doesn't possess that lateral movement and agility. He certainly doesn't have much wiggle to him. He also doesn't seem to possess that instinct to do so and I don't think that's because of coaching. ONLY as far as running, up until this point, he has really just been Henne 2.0. We have to just hope that he becomes a superior pocket passer. It may suck, but I think it's true. It's the way it is.

There's all of 2 of those guys in the NFL who do it well.

One has mostly had the best defense/rb combo in the league and the other not that far behind.

I remember when CKap was vaunted for that dual threat and we all know how that turned out.

"resnor wrote:

Yeah, I mean, it certainly seems realistic to have expected the QB who everyone knew needed time to develop, to go into divisional games and carry the team, right out of the gate. With a terrible oline. And suspect receivers. And bad coaching.

I agree he needs to play better, but, again, to put all the onus on him is silly. A young, developing QB needed help...and he rarely got it.

No worries Res, some could worry that they are going to go to Barfalo this weekend and have anal sex with a bunch of buffaloes!! Tanne will rock their s--t this week.

"slickj101 wrote:

There's all of 2 of those guys in the NFL who do it well.

One has mostly had the best defense/rb combo in the league and the other not that far behind.

I remember when CKap was vaunted for that dual threat and we all know how that turned out.

I agree.

Was that a little overboard?

Dude this is all the offensive line, coaches, receivers dropping passes, RBs suck, and where is the Pope? Where is his help for Tannehill? These struggles have nothing NOTHING to do with Tannehill. After all QBs don't influence the game that much. The fact that Rodgers, Manning, and Brady are always on winning teams is just pure luck. They have hall of fame players at every position and their WRs are getting 30 YAC. Tannehill is a HOF QB so just step off with this BS.

"Sceeto wrote:

Was that a little overboard?

Idk if that's the word. Maybe kind of unrealistic. There's 2/32 in a league where most teams are just trying to find a guy who's decent enough to not lose them many games.

"resnor wrote:

Yeah, I mean, it certainly seems realistic to have expected the QB who everyone knew needed time to develop, to go into divisional games and carry the team, right out of the gate. With a terrible oline. And suspect receivers. And bad coaching.

I agree he needs to play better, but, again, to put all the onus on him is silly. A young, developing QB needed help...and he rarely got it.

Yeah why should we expect him to average more than 8 points per game against divisional opponents? Thats expecting too much.

"resnor wrote:

Yeah, I mean, it certainly seems realistic to have expected the QB who everyone knew needed time to develop, to go into divisional games and carry the team, right out of the gate. With a terrible oline. And suspect receivers. And bad coaching.

I agree he needs to play better, but, again, to put all the onus on him is silly. A young, developing QB needed help...and he rarely got it.

If Tannehill just needed four years to develop then how can you judge the o-line, wide receivers and coaching in the meantime? You can't have it both ways.

"Phins Up Wins Up wrote:

Yeah why should we expect him to average more than 8 points per game against divisional opponents? Thats expecting too much.

Yeah, you have such a limited, narrow view. Not sure why I bothered to click on "show post." Now I remember why I put you on ignore so long ago.

"slickj101 wrote:

Idk if that's the word. Maybe kind of unrealistic. There's 2/32 in a league where most teams are just trying to find a guy who's decent enough to not lose them many games.

No, no, I meant with the anal sex thing.

As for the dual threat QB, you may have misunderstood what I meant and that could certainly and probably be my fault. I was saying that he doesn't have that ability or instinct and we should hope for a great pocket passer. I understand about the amount of running QBs. It's great to have, but I would always want the QB to be a proficient, true pocket passer. It's the ability to sense the pressure and use those nimble, subtle lateral and horizontal movements IN the pocket that I like and want. He does need improvement in that area.

"roy_miami wrote:

If Tannehill just needed four years to develop then how can you judge the o-line, wide receivers and coaching in the meantime? You can't have it both ways.

Not sure if serious.

Question: was Tannehill drafted as a fairly raw prospect with a high ceiling who needed time to develop?

Question: was the oline bad? Was it full of raw prospects who needed time to develop?

Question: were the receivers all raw prospects who needed time to develop? Were the receivers good?

Seriously, you guys don't even try to have realistic conversations about these things. You just want to complain about Tannehill, and throw garbage posts at anyone who gives the slightest information that opposed your narrow view.

"resnor wrote:

Yeah, you have such a limited, narrow view. Not sure why I bothered to click on "show post." Now I remember why I put you on ignore so long ago.

It's not Tannehills fault. It's everyone else's. That's your argument for Tannehill. No one is expecting him to carry the team. But 8 points per game against the division on the road? Really? Look at his TD INT ratio. It's terrible.

"Sceeto wrote:

No, no, I meant with the anal sex thing.

As for the dual threat QB, you may have misunderstood what I meant and that could certainly and probably be my fault. I was saying that he doesn't have that ability or instinct and we should hope for a great pocket passer. I understand about the amount of running QBs. It's great to have, but I would always want the QB to be a proficient, true pocket passer. It's the ability to sense the pressure and use those nimble, subtle lateral and horizontal movements IN the pocket that I like and want. He does need improvement in that area.

lol

He can make those kinds of plays at times but once there's 2/3 free-rushers it's not generally good.

We need to keep moving him around w bootlegs and whatnot to get him going.