It's a good fine for me. I didn't think he should loose his job over it. Look at the guy standing next to him too. It looks like he was trying to stick a shoulder out there. I think it's something Rex is telling them to do. Makes it hard for the other players to get down the field if they are pushed out of bounds.

 

I'm okay with the penalty. If Carroll had been injured and missed time (games) then Alosi probably would have lost his job. He was fortunate that didn't happen. But as it happened I don't think he needed to lose his job. He allegedly had a good reputation before this, so I'll assume it was just a momentary lapse in judgment, call it temporary insanity. As egregious as it was, his good rep (previously) buys him the benefit of the doubt and saves his career.

 

The players will probably ante up and give him a Christmas 'bonus' anyways....$25K is nothing to more than half of the 53 members of the team...

 

I disagree here...the fine was adequate. It should have been set based on the fact that the player could have gotten hurt worse or even ended his career...Like someone else mentioned in another thread on the topic (can't remember who, sorry) but you get stopped and punished for DUI even if you don't hurt someone. The fact is that you could have hurt someone driving intoxicated, just like he could have ended Carroll's career, potentially. Fortunately that didn't happen. However, they should also put some rules into effect to keep it from happening again, like moving guys back further along the sidelines or something along those lines.

Additionally, the perception is that there could have been some collusion and that it was premeditated. There isn't any proof, other than some circumstantial stills from the video, but the perception is there. Is that a practice amongst teams?? I don't know and have never even considered it. But if there is a way to circumvent the system, someone is looking for that way....put a rule into effect that virtually eliminates that issue ever coming up...

And as I mentioned before, I'm sure the players/coaches will get together some sort of gift to help this guy thru the rest of the season, if he needs it... That's not a judgment on whether or not they should do that, just that it seems that with all the millionaire players, it would seem likely to happen...JMHO, no proof or judgment on it...

 

Actually, in civil cases the penalty is often predicated on the amount of damage. It's called the egg shell skull theory. If I behave in an unreasonable manner that causes you harm, say I push you and hit your head, and the hit is something that wouldn't normally cause much damage, but for some reason you have a susceptibility that ends up causing hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage, then I'm liable. That's the appropriate legal analogy here.

As for the collusion thing. I agree it probably happened. They hadn't thought it through and considered the possible injury and there isn't any proof.

 

he got off too light, IMO. The league didn't even do anything about it.

 

Too harsh? Are you kidding me?
That guy deserves to get his *** beat.
We know Rex was behind this classless act.
He deserves an *** kicking too.

 

Since he was man enough to step up and admit the stupidity of his actions. I don't feel he should have been fired. The penalty he did receive appears fair to me.

 

It seems karma has caught up with him.


From Newsday

 

For his salary, 25K is huge. Too much. I don't have a problem with the rest of the punishment.

 

I think they fine was alot of money for a non-player but I don't think he will have a problem with people finding/giving the money to him. But i feellike he shouls have been fired and I still have no doubt that the whole press conference he put on was BS. He knew what he was doing and he was certainly thinking at that moment. I;m surprised none of the national media outlets noticed the other guy lening in as well.

I have no problem whatsoever with people standing right on the line and forcing people to stay inside but it's kiinda like in basketball and a moving pick. There is no reason for him to move to get in to the way.

P.S. I'm just happy Carrol is still healthy, I thought with his injury history that he was hurt, thank god for that.

 

I think he will be fired in the offseason.

 

Does this really have anything to do with what he did on Sunday ?? That was 12 yrs ago ?? Give us a break...

 

In this economy its sad for anyone to lose their job.

 

As far as Alosi goes, I feel the punishment was adequate. When the NFL suspends and fines Rex Ryan as well, I'll feel vindicated.

 

I think firing the guy is too harsh, but a one-game suspension would have been too light.

The verdict satisfied me; the monetary amount might seem high, but the guy makes a lot more money than you or I do, to put things in perspective. Plus I'm sure guys on the team will "help him out" with that fine under the table, even though it is disallowed. There just is no way to prove or police that, really.

He gets to keep his job after interfering with and challenging the integrity of the game. In that regard, he should be thankful he is still employed - the last people who were caught challenging the integrity of the game were fired.

Frankly all the negative publicity the Jets have gotten from this and the new "tripping" stigma is worth the crime in itself; it's just awesome to watch the Jets dig themselves into a deeper hole of classlessness publicly for all to see like this :lol:

 

I'm fine with the suspension. However, that fine is huge.

 

Interesting input from Zach

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5919573

 

Makes sense and probably is spot on... The guy didn't get fired because the act was instructed. Same reason why I think that even tho the guy was fined, it'll be 'made up' to him in some other way (players/staff contributing to a relief fund for him, a year end bonus, etc)...Either way, I not so sure he was instructed to jut out that knee. But the blockade, yeah that was coached/instructed/premeditated...

 

Update from Zach Thomas :

"They had to be ordered to stand there because they're foot to foot," Thomas said Tuesday on Miami radio station WQAM. "There's four of them, side to side -- five of them, I mean -- on the edge of the coach's zone. They're only out there to restrict the space of the gunner.

"But there's more to it because I'm telling you, the only thing [Alosi] did wrong was intentionally put that knee out there. If he just stood there, there would never have been a problem, even if the guy got tripped. But there's more to this. He was ordered to stand there. No one is foot to foot on the sideline in the coach's box."

 

I think its funny that since Carroll did not get hurt its to harsh but if he got really hurt then its not. IDK that Carroll is fine, he could of potentially got really hurt therefore the punishment is not to harsh imo.

 

Suspending him without pay, and $ 25,000 on his pay is way out of line with what they fine the players. They fine players $ 25,000 or $ 50,000 and they are making anywhere from $ 500,000 to $ 7 or 8 maybe 9 million. This guy couldn't be making more than $ 60-75,000 tops.

But personally I think he should have been fired by the Jets, and then not allowed to work in the NFL ever again by the league.

 

Of course they ordered it, why else wouldn't the guy be fired. If they fired him, he would tell everyone who ordered the code red.

 

well, he should have thought about the possible consequences before he mindlessly followed orders to try and hurt one of our players.

 

So he's a muscle-headed bully to boot ? What a creep.

 

Karma ure did take it sweet *** time.. lol

 

He should have lost his job because of it.
This is a billion dollar industry and that bonehead could have cost this team a million (or more) dollar investment.
There is no place for this in ANY sport.

With all the unemployment going on he wouldn't have been able to get a job at Gold's Gym.
He's fortunate he has a job to come back to after what he did.

 

and this is why he didnt lose his job....this makes sense, the guy was pretty much told to stand there..

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5919573

 

bingo see this

 

nice find....any clearer??

 

Here is Rex looking him over. Watch the video and you will see Rex has his eyes on this the whoile time. He never looks at the return. This was set up and Rex didnt want to miss it

 

[video=youtube;VgYXBpIYnvU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgYXBpIYnvU[/video]

here it is in high def

 

...you can't handle the truth.... :shifty:

 

Was it too harsh?

No, not at all.

 

I would like to see Jason Taylor investigate this. If he finds out that it's an order by the coaches he should show that if his heart is truely with the Dolphins as he always maintains, he should make it public.

 

Since these are the same guys who faked a injury in our first meeting to give them an added rest when they were out of 'timeouts', I would put nothing passed them.

Apparently Zach Thomas feels the same way.

"They had to be ordered to stand there because they're foot-to-foot," Thomas said. "They're only out there to restrict the space of the gunner." "Gunners" like Carroll on punt coverage often get blocked out of bounds. If they get tangled up with the opposition, it can slow their return to the field.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports...s-dirty-deed-1122207.html?cxtype=rss_dolphins


....and notice in the below video how the two Jet players covering Carroll intentionally forced him out of bounds right into the line of coaches!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgYXBpIYnvU&feature=related

First it was New England's Spygate and now the Jets famous trip. Why must teams in the AFC East feel that they have to cheat to compete with the Dolphins?


In answer to the question I don't feel that the penalty was stiff enough. We need to end this BS in the NFL once and for all, and for that matter where was the penalty flag from the referee? At minimum this should have been an immediate 15 yards for unsportsmanlike like contact in addition to the fines after the fact.

 

i disagree. he may have been told to stand there, but i doubt he was told to stick his knee out. and if he was told to stick his knee out, he has a choice not to do it

i agree with dolfan jake. the fine is excessive for a working man's salary. but if, as others suggested, that players will contribute to the fine, then really his punishment ends up just being a slap on the wrist. i cant say for sure, but i doubt the guy has 25K sitting in his bank as throw away money.

so really he just loses 3 checks and gets to keep his job. thats BS. he should be fired, end of story

 

I just wish, after the game, that someone from our team would have beaten the piss out of him and Rex. Then I would feel the punishment was fair.

The thing that pissed me off the most was Rex's response at the press conference. All he could do was practically defend his guy and make excuses for him.....with a major attitude no less. ---- him. The guy is a total douche. In the press conference I saw, he didn't once apologize to our organization nor Caroll. He just made some excuses for his guy. The guy is a total punk.


I didn't notice, but my friend said that after Alosi did what he did, probably in fear of our retribution, changed hats and put on a black one.:lol: Did anyone else notice this?