1) Let's judge entire careers on two preseason games. Awesome idea.

2) I love the offensive scheme. It usually helps when your team blocks though.

3) John Jerry is fat.

 

The thing about that is, so is the other team. In preseason when teams run vanilla schemes, it's simply a talent vs. talent battle much of the time. These last 2 games just proves what I've been saying all along, the talent level on this team is extremely laughable. Not surprising when Jeff Ireland has been your GM of course. Sherman and Coyle better be incredible playcallers, or this season very well may be worst than last year.

 

Jeff Ireland has been here 5 years. Has been terrible at his job the whole time.

 

Except even by Irelands own words he didn't control when Parcells was here.

 

Please go look at a draft. Any draft, just so long as a couple years have passed. You haven no idea what one actually looks like.

 

Rebuilding is definitely in the forecast

 

:sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol:

 

Come on now, think rationally here. It's not Jeff Ireland's fault.....











.....it's Bill Parcells oh wait he's gone ......it's Tony Sparano oh wait uhm ......the lockout urrgghhh .....it's a media conspiracy nooo .......it's the replacement refs, yeah this year it's them

 

1) True. But I do think Egnew sucks. he can't block... but was supposed to be good at catching.
2) Agree.
3) Those who live in glass houses.

 

the only thing John Jerry should be is released.

 

So Ireland did absolutely nothing while Parcells was here. Good to know. Even more reason to fire him.

 

this roster is pretty depressing. no OL. no TEs. no WRs. no legit weapons for your franchise QB.

a 4th straight losing season on the horizon. whatever it takes to get Ireland out of here.

 

I know ours have sucked pretty badly.

 

They haven't, though. Especially when you include UDFA signings.

 

Except that they have. The embarrassment we call an NFL roster is proof enough of that.

 

No, you don't, because you are wrong. Do the bare minimum research it takes to find out what typical draft success rates looks like. It's not too much to ask from you before you "contribute".

PS are you the racist guy from Finheaven?

 

By what standards? A good draft will usually net you three solid starting players. In 2008, we came out with 4 starters. In 2009, we came out with 2 starters in Hartline and Smith. We also came out with Vontae Davis, who's a solid player and basically a starter. In 2010, we came out with Odrick and Misi, who are starters.

I don't see the suck in that.

 

Reshad Jones is starting too.

 

That is true. However, I didn't name him because I don't think he's an above average player. He's starting by default, it seems. Every other player I mentioned are solid starters or better, IMO.

 

You already asked me this ignorant question. And I don't care about whatever your phony success rate says. We've hit on a couple 1st round OL. Woop de doo. Have we hit on the most important position on the field, QB? Nope. Have we hit on any offensive playmakers? Nope? Defensive playmakers? Nope. Pass rushers? Nope. Cornerbacks? I'd say no considering Davis and Smith have been huge disappointments. Hell have we even hit on running back? Nope.

 

Then make him head scout, and have him run the draft. This moron is not a General manager. He can't build a team better than a 12 year old with the latest Madden. It's an embarrassment at this point.

 

Yep. I am sure that is the only reason we are bashing him.

 

Try 2 in 2008. Chad Henne was terrible, no idea who the 4th is. Jake Long was the top pick, and a lineman at that. That should of been a hit. But considering we passed on a franchise QB, obviously a bad pick anyways.

In 2009. Hartline sucks. He's a #4 WR on a playoff team. Just because you're a starter, that doesn't mean you had a successful draft pick. He only starts because everyone else is somehow even more terrible than he is. Smit hand Davis, disappointments.

In 2010, Misi is terrible. Get real with calling that a hit because he starts, He sucks. Odrick has done very little up to this point as well.

You don't see the suck in it because you're biased. EVERY single person you just named either sucks, or has been the definition of average up this point.

 

He's been here for 5 years in case you've missed it.

 

Every terrible GM has made a few nice moves. When the majority of the moves are terrible, and the team consistently sucks, it tends to overshadow a couple nice moves, as it should.

 

Long and Langford were the drafted starters. Bess and Carpenter were UDFA who are starters.

They're all above average starters. They've proven that. Take Misi for example. He had a damn good rookie season. He fell off a little last season, but he does not suck. He's a good starter. Same with Hartline, Smith, Odrick and Davis. They're good football players.

I don't know how you expect anyone here to take you seriously when you love to over exaggerate every point you make.

 

Wow, I just noticed he said Long was a bad pick because we passed on Ryan.

 

Can we at least wait til the games matter to start this...some poor performances tonight, but complaining about rookies in the second preseason game? Come on.

 

Misi has never had a very good anything. He's a bonafide scrub. Hartline is a scrub. Vontae and Smith are not good. They're terrible at times, very good at other times, and overall, inconsistent and average. Same with Odrick. Way too inconsistent.

 

Matt Ryan is very much a franchise QB. Sucks we took a lineman who doesn't win us any games while the Falcons make the playoffs every year and will likely win a Superbowl once they fix their awful defense, but it is what it is.

Odrick was very good at times, and completely invisible at other. Way too inconsistent, though I do expect him to shine as a 4-3 DT.

We'll see about Misi. But calling him a successful draft pick up to this point is facepalm worthy.

 

I disagree. Whether it's watching tape of them or using PFF stats, that's wrong. They're all above average starters.