Simple: Run the ball...Dolphins Win!!

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dolfan7171dolfan7171New MemberOP
Oct 12, 2010, 10:03 PM

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/dolphins/for-miami-dolphins-the-stats-are-clear-running-968286.html

Tony Sparano is a self-proclaimed stat freak, using the numbers not just to analyze his players and opponents but his own performance as well.

For example, he has examined the stat sheets for all 37 of his games as Dolphins coach and found clear trends to explain why his record is 20-17, including one playoff game.

Bottom line: The Dolphins usually thrive when they run.

"In 20 of those wins, 15 times the number of rushes was greater than the number of throws," Sparano said this week. "In the 17 losses, 15 times the number of throws was greater than the number of rushes."

Win, Lose, or Tie, I will be a Dolphins Fan Until I Die:up:

mrozmrozsubscriber
Oct 12, 2010, 10:05 PM

got to be able to run the ball to win the game. Our OPL has not done a very good job of opening holes for the RB's and frankly Brown has looked like doo doo most of the time.

RIP CHP Officer Kirk Griess ID#15810
EOW 8/10/18

ASasciiNew Member
Oct 12, 2010, 10:08 PM

Really hate this statistic...if you're winning you run..if you're losing you throw. A much better statistic, IMO, is BEFORE we have a lead what does it look like.

2k52k5forum_veteran
Oct 12, 2010, 10:08 PM

Correlation does not equal causation again. Teams who are trailing late in the game have to pass more. That doesn't mean that passing more makes you lose...

DorfdadDorfdadforum_veteran
Oct 12, 2010, 10:14 PM

Sure Tony become one diminutional and sure to win! Balanced Teams win. first if I could of fee you some advise get Marshall a touch in every game in the first series get him into the game
Second when you run mix it up up the middle 85% of the time is predictable also please why the he'll we are not a screen happy team is beyond me

We have Ronnie and Ricky both great catchers and don't forget the TE

Also remind your defense to show up

NJFINSFAN1NJFINSFAN1luxury_box
Oct 12, 2010, 10:16 PM

"ascii wrote:

Really hate this statistic...if you're winning you run..if you're losing you throw. A much better statistic, IMO, is BEFORE we have a lead what does it look like.

Yet teams that win with the pass have gotten too the superbowl also.

2010 Both the Saints & Colts
2009 Cards
2008 Pats
2007 Colts

Interesting isn't it.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Oct 12, 2010, 10:18 PM

"2k5 wrote:

Correlation does not equal causation again. Teams who are trailing late in the game have to pass more. That doesn't mean that passing more makes you lose...

Pretty much. Though teams that pass often (say, over 40 attempts) do tend to lose more than win. But that’s because they’re in a hole to begin with.

I wish Sparano would read stuff like this a little more often though.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

dolfan7171dolfan7171New Member
Oct 12, 2010, 10:18 PM

As long as we win is all I care.

Win, Lose, or Tie, I will be a Dolphins Fan Until I Die:up:

MAMarshallNew Member
Oct 12, 2010, 10:19 PM

I actually have to agree a bit with the OP. It seems like we've gotten a bit away from our power running game from 2009. We're giving our guys (R&R express) the carries, but not at the right times. If it's 3rd and short, I'd feel better going to Brown and Williams. Instead, we'll go with the short pass to Davone Bess. And, don't get me wrong, I love me some Bess. One of the most underrated possession receivers in the game today, but we should be handing it to our backs more often. Pound the rock and the air game will open up.

ASasciiNew Member
Oct 12, 2010, 10:23 PM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Yet teams that win with the pass have gotten to0 the superbowl also.

2010 Both the Saints & Colts
2009 Cards
2008 Pats
2007 Colts

Interesting isn't it.

And this also....so many reason this statistic is a "statistic".

padre31padre31luxury_box
Oct 12, 2010, 11:18 PM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Yet teams that win with the pass have gotten too the superbowl also.

2010 Both the Saints & Colts
2009 Cards
2008 Pats
2007 Colts

Interesting isn't it.

Not really instructive though NJ, how many teams made the playoffs via running the ball?

Manning is a close to Marino as we are likely to see for quite sometime so I tend to think "yeah, well that's due to Manning..".

kryptokryptoNew Member
Oct 12, 2010, 11:38 PM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Yet teams that win with the pass have gotten too the superbowl also.

2010 Both the Saints & Colts
2009 Cards
2008 Pats
2007 Colts

Interesting isn't it.

Yea, and now look at the QB for each of those teams and now look at ours.

PandarillaPandarillaforum_veteran
Oct 13, 2010, 12:58 AM

That's just coachspeak for "Gimme some time before you run me out of town."

DorfdadDorfdadforum_veteran
Oct 13, 2010, 09:28 AM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Yet teams that win with the pass have gotten too the superbowl also.

2010 Both the Saints & Colts
2009 Cards
2008 Pats
2007 Colts

Interesting isn't it.

Old minds think there way is the only way.. change is er comin..

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Oct 13, 2010, 12:39 PM

"Dorfdad wrote:

Sure Tony become one diminutional and sure to win! Balanced Teams win. first if I could of fee you some advise get Marshall a touch in every game in the first series get him into the game
Second when you run mix it up up the middle 85% of the time is predictable also please why the he'll we are not a screen happy team is beyond me

We have Ronnie and Ricky both great catchers and don't forget the TE

Also remind your defense to show up

I think being a power run team or run first team is a misnomer. The Colts are in no fashion considered a power run team and yet they can win most of their games. They are currently 3rd in passing and 24th in rushing, but they are #2 overall in offense....

BTW, the #1 ranked offense is SD sitting at 2-3 for the season ?? Too much is made of rushing stats...too little is made of mistakes...that's our downfall, not ability or inability to move the ball...we tend to trip over ourselves with either an ill-timed penalty, missed assignment or turnover on O or as in last weeks game, too many mistakes on STs...

ASasciiNew Member
Oct 13, 2010, 01:15 PM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

I think being a power run team or run first team is a misnomer. The Colts are in no fashion considered a power run team and yet they can win most of their games. They are currently 3rd in passing and 24th in rushing, but they are #2 overall in offense....

BTW, the #1 ranked offense is SD sitting at 2-3 for the season ?? Too much is made of rushing stats...too little is made of mistakes...that's our downfall, not ability or inability to move the ball...we tend to trip over ourselves with either an ill-timed penalty, missed assignment or turnover on O or as in last weeks game, too many mistakes on STs...

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