I've given up hope with regards to the Dolphins. If there 50 available franchise QBs, the Dolphins will manage the impossible and land none.

 

Bleedin' for Weeden

 

Are we seriously discussing drafting a QB who will be 30 by the time 2013 season starts?

Desperation, thy name is Dolphins.

 

How low have we sunk. From Luck to Weeden. Baffling.

 

Weeden is a very good prospect. He just happens to be 29.

 

If Tannehill goes to Cleveland at 4 and Flynn signs with Seattle I'd rather sit back and sell the farm for Barkley next year.

 

why is he so old? At least his body can't be as banged up as a usually 29 yr old QB that's been in the NFL for 8 years

 

I'm sorry but there's absolutely no way we draft a near 30 year old QB at #8. It won't happen.

 

If we lose out on Tannehill, you trade back. We take a guy older than me at 8, I'll lose my ****. I'll have a bigger breakdown then when we passed on Willis for TED GINN JUNIOR AND THE GINN FAMILY.

 

He originally pursued a baseball career. Didn't work out.

 

Right now the only thing that should be on our minds is that the manning chase is down to denverDenver Arizona, and Miami. I believe we are the favorite!

 

Are you guys really talking about drafting Weeden with your 8th pick?

Yeah if you want to take a guy in round 1 that will be there in round 5. Hell, Tannehill will be there in round 3.

 

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The Yankees drafted him in the 2nd round out of high school as a pitcher. He was later traded to the Dodgers organization and spent some time in the Royals farm system, but after 5 or so years not making it to the show, he gave up baseball and enrolled in college to play football.

 

Weeden in round 5? Tannehill in round 3? Man what are you smoking? :lol:

 

Because he was born in 1983.

 

If teams all downgrade him due to age, one team is going to get a steal on a very talented QB. If he were 23 yrs old right now, there would be QBs going in the first 3 picks.

 

We get our QB for the next 10 or so years in Flynn.

 

OVERRATED on Dolphins forum.

 

I'm not high at all man. Any QB not named Luck or Griffen, will be dropping BIG time. Teams have so many other holes. At least to me, it only makes football sense to fill your other holes first, and see how your current QBs operate. There's always guys like Kyle Orton who you can bring in, and try to build a team around him...til you get your franchise QB.

Tannehill is going to suck balls. Weeden might be decent, but I wouldn't draft him because that's all you're getting, a decent journeyman.

 

I agree..... but taking Weeden at #8 is over-drafting him by at least a round IMO. Hypothetically, if we're that desperate for a QB then trade up our 2nd and preserve our 1st (and that's not a knock on Weeden). Skins get Griffin. If we don't get Manning then that's one less competitor needing a QB. If we don't get Tanny, then another competitor did. If we don't get Flynn then one more competitor got a QB. Taking Weeden at 8 in this scenario is like outbidding ourselves IMO. With all those other QBs hypothetically off the board, it doesn't leave anyone needing to prioritize Weeden in the 1st round. So if we're in the situation where Weeden is our only option, then he should be there by default in round 2 IMO.... and possibly round 3 dare I say.

 

I presume you watched him extensively before forming that opinion? You are not the least bit impressed that he has beaten Luck, RG3, Tannehill, and Landry Jones head to head?

 

Ideally, the Bengals fall in love with Trent Richardson, and he's on the board at #8. Then they give us both their #1s to move up. We then take David DeCastro and Brandon Weeden. :up:

 

Now that you've shown your immaturity and likely young inexperienced age, I have no reason to take you seriously.

You realize this is a QB driven league, right? Well now you do. Any QB not named Luck or Griffin will NOW be jumping up in value. Once you graduate from middle school and hopefully one day turn in your GED for community college life, you might learn about supply and demand in Economics 101. :wink2:

 

I doubt clev will draft Tannehill at 4, way too high for him IMHO & I hate to be a negative nancy but we'll probably find a way to screw up in getting Barkley next year.

 

That's my dream scenario that I don't even try to think about so thank you for bringing it up ya bum. :lol: (only, personally, I'd take Weeden in the 2nd round in that scenario and use the other 1st to address the defense).

I'm praying Cincy falls in love with the idea of Green, Gresham, and Richardson around fire crotch and trades up for him (with us of course).

 

One of the better Qb's in the draft? How dare we...

 

Why?

Maybe he gives us 6 years of excellent QB play. You really wouldn't take that? Especially if it was for rookie capped 8th pick money?

People act like a draft pick is worth as much as they used to be.

 

Not that I'm a fan of Weeden. I've not followed his college career closely enough to really offer a stat driven opinion, but I will offer this.

This biggest negative I've heard everyone harp on about him is his age. Well, right now everyone seems to be having viagra induced erections over the possibility of landing a 36 year old quarterback that's had 4 neck surgeries and the last caused him to miss all of last season. How many years do you all think we would get out of Manning?

Here's my point. If Weeden is that good of a quarterback, regardless of his age, that could translate into 5-6 winning seasons in Miami. Now, it's no secret; players like to play for winners. Terrell Owens went to Philadelphia (before destroying that locker room), Randy Moss went to New England, Vinny Testaverde followed Bill Parcells, etc...

If Weeden could indeed provide a number of winning seasons in Miami, surely a good quarterback would want to come to Miami down the road to be his successor...play for an established winner.

Now, is Weeden a Peyton Manning? Chances are...probably not, but that doesn't mean Weeden can't win now.

To me, the age argument is not relevent. Alot of you here have stated he is a GOOD quarterback, but cite his age as his number one negative. Well, how many quarterbacks are starting in the league right now that are Weeden's age now or older?

If age is that big of a factor, then Weeden isn't that good of a quarterback, because if he can't come into the league and start NOW? And needs a few years developing? Then he's not a good quarterback at all and why he's even mentioned by some of you guys is beyond me....however,

If is THAT good, he can start the season and instantly win games..and I don't know about you guys, I want wins now..not after developing a quarterback three years from now.

 

Yeah, but he's not that good. He's 4th in what is essentially a 4QB class. Had Barkley come out he'd be 5th.

We're desperate and we're making a messiah out of any potential QB

 

I'd rather draft Weeden over Tannehill.
I smell bust with Tannehill.

 

I really don't see Tannehill going #4 and/or Weeden going #8. That said, I didn't see Ponder and Dalton going as high as they did last year. Just goes to show you how the value of the position elevates the prospect to a higher position in the draft than they probably deserve on their own merit.

If we miss out on Peyton and Flynn, and with Luck and and Griffin already off the board by the third pick, I can see these guys going higher than otherwise projected. But, I still don't think they go in the top ten. Moreover, I can see us trading back in that scenario and still having a shot at least one of them further down in the round.

 

Absolutely. I like the depth at QB in next year's draft much better than this year's. I'd be shocked if the Browns select Tannehill at 4. The problem with targeting Barkley in next years draft is I cannot imagine the Dolphins having a top 10 pick again next year.

 

Being the 4th best QB in the class doesn't mean he's no good.

 

Wow, how much lower can this organization sink. This is an organization which has two former QB's in the HOF. A former coach who who has the most wins in NFL history. Yet now the organization has sunk so low that the head coach is someone who has never been a HC at any level of football. The answer at QB, if Manning decides to sign with another team, is a player who has been in the league for four years and has started a grant total of two regular season games. Of course if Flynn doesn't sign with the Dolphins, the Dolphins can always use their top ten pick in the first round to draft a QB would started as many games at WR in college as he did at QB, and who led his team to a very mediocre record last season which caused his coach to be fired. Of course there is always option number three. A QB who will be 29 years old when the NFL season begins and who already has a history of failing at the top level of a professional sport.

I guess all this proves is that some Dolphin fans are so desperate for a franchise QB in Miami that they are willing to waste millions of the owners dollars on a four year backup in the NFL or to waste a top draft pick on one of two QB's who are not really in the top 100 college players in this years draft.

Put me in the camp which says that if Manning doesn't sign with the Dolphins, they should just go with Matt Moore again next year and do whatever is necessary after next season to trade up and get Matt Barkley in the 2013 draft.

 

No, please, exaggerate more.