This is pretty shocking to me. I can't believe a company would accept a loss of 3 billion.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169439
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They aren't done selling the PS3.
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I highly doubt this. Not that Sony isn't hurting from the high cost of manufacturing the PS3, but profit doesn't automatically go into a bank account somewhere. It's reinvested, either in the business or in other ventures. This report is probably factoring in the costs of R&D for the components, even the outsourced ones (like the RSX) which makes it more than a little deceptive.
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Microsoft spent 1 billion dollars alone in 360 repairs.
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I don't understand why everything is a Sony VS Microsoft arguement. The guy didn't post a word about Microsoft. He didn't make any pro Microsoft statements or fanboyish remarks at all, and automatically, everyone starts saying, "Well Microsoft this... and Microsoft that..."
The guy was posting news people. Geez :lol:King Felix, rdhstlr23, Ultra and 4 others like this. -
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Well with the money they are going to make on Blu Ray, it all will be worth it
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It's only the first year, give it a while.
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The quality is only the same to people who have trouble deciphering the differences between resolutions in the first place(many, many people).
Regardless, even with the "upscaled" resolution, they do not offer any HD content and is severely limited compared to BluRay.
The price issue is only due to it being relatively new tech. I remember people saying that DVD's were too expensive to be "worth it" as well, look how that turned out.muscle979, Mainge, Get Up And Go and 1 other person like this. -
Upconverting DVDs does nothing for altering the sound. And even the best upconverters can't match the PQ of blu-ray. -
Going from Blu Ray to upconverted DVDs is like watching tv with sand in your eyes.Stitches likes this. -
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For those that don't know the PS3 does upconvert your DVDs so its like buying an upconverting DVD player no matter if you choose to play Blu-Rays or DVDs it doesn't matter. Also the 360 upconverts dvds as well.
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http://www.firingsquad.com/features/transformers_hd_dvd_review/images/03.png - DVD
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I have a pretty damn good surround sound set up and the difference between "Blu Ray" sound and regular DVD sound is night and freaking day. I was astonished by the difference.
I can't WAIT until Blu-Ray is fully mainstream and the established technology so all music "DVD's" will be on Blu-Ray. -
And I don't get this higher price talk. DVDs were proportionally just as expensive compared to VHS, and it sure seems like that was adopted fine despite the initial complaints about cost. -
Some of you need to realize your the hardcore. The vast majority of people do not set up home theater systems etc and don't give a rats ***.
DVD didn't start mass retailing until 1997 and it didn't surpass VHS until 2003 in rentals etc. This was considered fast as lets face it VHS sucked and this was the first time you could store your movies you bought without worry of your machine chewing it ;p
Blu-Ray on the other hand only started in 2006, people are satisfied with DVD (still accounting for 97% of sales) and faces a large installed base. Blu-Ray probably won't stick in the long run (and that comes from someone with one) and it's already got competition in the works that will blow it away in Holographic data systems expected to start it's run around 2010 or so and you just know MS etc will jump to that one just to spite Sony.
So chances are people will stick with DVD until there is a real reason to do so.azfinfanmang likes this. -
PS: I am far from the hardcore, as my entire home theater (game systems, players, tv, sound system) cost about $2000 (certainly no more than $2500). Plenty of people spend that just on their tv (hell, I don't even have a tv that can do 1080p/24, let alone 1080p/60). -
There is a HUGE differnce in a full 1080p Blu-Ray title and an upscaled DVD in my opinion..Sadly I own very few Blu-Rays as I am changing over to Digital Formats for the future.Stitches likes this. -
We're in a recession so comparisons with DVDs, which was introduced in a tech boom, is moot. That takes into pretty hefty consideration. I've read industry papers that suggest people are satisfied enough with DVD's to not make the switch to Blu-ray. -
Pretty much everybody I know wants to have blu-ray. And there are a ton of blu-ray movies you can get for 20 dollars or less. I bought American Psycho on blu-ray for 14 bucks. Every new movie now is being released on blu-ray. You can rent them straight out of most blockbuster video stores now. By the time this new stuff comes out it should have a firm hold on the HD market. I am far from hardcore, a year and a half ago I didn't even know what a blu-ray disc was and now it's all I watch. I have a 1500 dollar plasma TV and and it's hooked up to an ancient Sony stereo system. I can still notice a significant difference.
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I even bought one and had it shipped from England and it was less than $17.
tower.com has some good prices (though shipping time sucks sometimes)muscle979 likes this. -
I generally just rent them at Blockbuster.
I mostly wait for sales to buy my blu ray dics. Which is also how I bought most of my DVDs as well. -
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And this is pretty much where I stand, and backs up what I said about the expense
Of course Blu-Ray has come down signifigantly and will continue to..but I literally have hundreds of DVD's, which when mulitplied by $20.00 equals an ENTIRE boatload of money that I WILL NOT spend again.
I will also remain skeptical as I also think Blu-Ray will last all of a hand-full of years, and then those of you that have bought up 100's of them will be in the exact same boat I am now. :up: -
Only Blu-rays I paid more than $20 for were Planet Earth ($50 was a huge bargain), the Ocean's Trilogy set, and the amazon.com National Treasure/National Treasure 2 package. I don't think I have more than 15 Blu-rays and 20 HD-DVD's at the present.
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planet earth is a must have on blu ray
the whole 'shallow waters' or w/e with the reefs and tropical fish will blow ANYONES mind who hasn't seen it...it is a great thing to have when people say 'so whats blu ray and is it even worth it?'