Sports Buzz ; Progress report on Misi,Thomas
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CrunchTimeretired_adminOPThough rookie third-round pick Billy Turner shared first-team left guard snaps with Dallas Thomas on the first day of offseason practices, Thomas said he has received most of the reps since, and coaches are encouraged by how he has looked playing alongside Branden Albert.
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Contrary to a published report, the Dolphins' Koa Misi said he never complained about being asked to move to middle linebacker and is excited about it. “I’ve always told the coaches I’m open to trying new things and new positions,” he said. Misi said he’s studying two to four hours every night and arrives at team headquarters around 5 a.m., before many other players.
What’s more, “I had my wife buy me some cones so I can line up the cones in my house and adjust to different formations. At first, I had a bunch of hats laid out on the ground. It’s a lot to learn. I have a lot more calls to make, a lot more reads. I’m already feeling a lot more comfortable.”Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy
It looks promising for these two players who are basically changing positions.Lets hope they continue to progress .Those are two positions where we need an upgrade.:yes:
maynardNew MemberMisi putting in that kind of effort is all you can ask for. Great news
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"CrunchTime wrote:
It looks promising for these two players who are basically changing positions.Lets hope they continue to progress .Those are two positions where we need an upgrade.:yes:
When they actually put on pads and start blocking against opposing defenses and Thomas looks good next to Albert, that is when I'll buy into Thomas being a starting guard in the NFL. Until that time comes, I think Thomas is still a HUGE question mark as an offensive lineman in the NFL. I just keep remembering how over matched he appeared against NFL defensive linemen in the preseason last year.
Da 'FinsmoderatorI think it's a good move for Misi career wise. I felt he was decent on the corner but not a great OLB. I actually think he can be an excellent ILB. Aside from that, I don't think there's much doubt, imo, he's the best ILB on the team.
I hope Turner competes well in camp and pushes Thomas. But, to make them both better. I actually would hope that Thomas would be stronger and better this year. He has some talent and if he can become a better player (stronger, smarter, etc.) and start - more power to him. It really is going to be what they do in pads. Always a difference.
djphinfansubscriber"jw3102 wrote:
When they actually put on pads and start blocking against opposing defenses and Thomas looks good next to Albert, that is when I'll buy into Thomas being a starting guard in the NFL. Until that time comes, I think Thomas is still a HUGE question mark as an offensive lineman in the NFL. I just keep remembering how over matched he appeared against NFL defensive linemen in the preseason last year.
That's fair, turner should give him a run for his money.
DisgustipatesubscriberI don't know why there is this underlying skepticism that Dallas Thomas might contribute. Because he couldn't get on the field his rookie year? That's hardly a damning indictment of his career prospects.
djphinfansubscriber"Disgustipate wrote:
I don't know why there is this underlying skepticism that Dallas Thomas might contribute. Because he couldn't get on the field his rookie year? That's hardly a damning indictment of his career prospects.
for a lot of folks if they haven't seen it, the analysis or consideration of variables cease to exist.
CitizenSnipsNew MemberThe offensive line from a talent perspective is night and day from a year ago. Hearing that there's an open competition between two young guys is good. I personally think Turner will be needed to play LT at some point cause Albert never stays healthy, so I'm hoping Dallas Thomas emerges. Overall though, 58 sacks should be a thing of the past.
VanDolPhansubscriberHis point about trying to learn too many positions is something I've pointed out earlier. You got to figure out where a rookie OL goes right off the bat and stick with it until he's 100% comfortable before moving him around.
djphinfansubscriber"CaribPhin wrote:
I believe the pessimism stems from him not beating out the absolute trash we started last season. I read somewhere that Thomas was battling injuries though so that would help to explain his low snap count last season.
Torn labrum, 4 to 6 months recovery..was at the combine in a sling, surgery was in February..
Fin Dforum_veteran“I’ve always told the coaches I’m open to trying new things and new positions,”
lol.
Limboforum_veteran"djphinfan wrote:
Torn labrum, 4 to 6 months recovery..was at the combine in a sling, surgery was in February..
I'm not skeptical of the news, really. I believe he looks good and hope he starts. It takes a while for mid-round rookies, obviously. That said...I was a little surprised he wasn't getting more work after the bye or at least by week 8. I mean...our OLine was freaking terrible at that point, in upheaval, and this kid couldn't crack the lineup. I hear where the skeptics are coming from is all.
cuchulainnsubscriber"djphinfan wrote:
Torn labrum, 4 to 6 months recovery..was at the combine in a sling, surgery was in February..
Now don't go getting all factual and stuff. :shifty:
MrCleansubscriber"jw3102 wrote:
When they actually put on pads and start blocking against opposing defenses and Thomas looks good next to Albert, that is when I'll buy into Thomas being a starting guard in the NFL. Until that time comes, I think Thomas is still a HUGE question mark as an offensive lineman in the NFL. I just keep remembering how over matched he appeared against NFL defensive linemen in the preseason last year.
It's not fair to judge him on last year. He was coming off a February shoulder injury so couldn't have been working out much if at all leading up to training camp. He could not have been 100% strength wise during training camp.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
MrCleansubscriber"djphinfan wrote:
Torn labrum, 4 to 6 months recovery..was at the combine in a sling, surgery was in February..
Why the F are people so god damned obtuse about this issue??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? :headwall:
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
djphinfansubscriber"Limbo wrote:
I'm not skeptical of the news, really. I believe he looks good and hope he starts. It takes a while for mid-round rookies, obviously. That said...I was a little surprised he wasn't getting more work after the bye or at least by week 8. I mean...our OLine was freaking terrible at that point, in upheaval, and this kid couldn't crack the lineup. I hear where the skeptics are coming from is all.
I agree with you on some level, would of like to of seen him bite as a pup, but, He's a slow learner to boot I think combined with the injury, probabaly losing a lot of strength, which probably derailed his confidence, sometimes when these athletes get injured and know that they aren't at their physical peak they shut down kind of.
Any hoo, he's got real comp from a rookie that has confidence and his strength so will see if he can hold on to the spot, it's why I love preseason pass, study that sh&$ and see who should win.
Disgustipatesubscriber"CaribPhin wrote:
I believe the pessimism stems from him not beating out the absolute trash we started last season. I read somewhere that Thomas was battling injuries though so that would help to explain his low snap count last season.
It doesn't really work that way.
"Disgustipate wrote:
I don't know why there is this underlying skepticism that Dallas Thomas might contribute. Because he couldn't get on the field his rookie year? That's hardly a damning indictment of his career prospects.
probably has to do with the fact that he was drafted by this era's Matt Millen. the list of OL he took outside of the 1st round is U-G-L-Y.
Contrary to a published report, the Dolphins' Koa Misi said he never complained about being asked to move to middle linebacker and is excited about it.
You mean.............the press was WRONG? Get out........
Fin Dforum_veteranBesides the injury, they did a whole lot of shifting around in TC of the oline. They knew the line talent was crap and were trying to find the best combo they could. Due to that, Thomas was an injured rookie and the majority of camp work he got was at multiple positions.
I know its vogue to **** on the everything and everyone that has anything to do with the current team, but this one shouldn't be that big of a mystery.
MrCleansubscriber"Disgustipate wrote:
It doesn't really work that way.
Huh? Battling injuries in camp does not lower your snap count?
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
PhinFan1968subscriber"CrunchTime wrote:
“I’ve always told the coaches I’m open to trying new things and new positions,”
"Fin D wrote:
lol.
Damn shame he's not a guard...
Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”
:rimshot:
Alex13subscriber"LBsFinest wrote:
probably has to do with the fact that he was drafted by this era's Matt Millen. the list of OL he took outside of the 1st round is U-G-L-Y.
he is not even close to a matt millen as a drafter....and you ****ing know it
padre31luxury_box"Fin D wrote:
Besides the injury, they did a whole lot of shifting around in TC of the oline. They knew the line talent was crap and were trying to find the best combo they could. Due to that, Thomas was an injured rookie and the majority of camp work he got was at multiple positions.
I know its vogue to **** on the everything and everyone that has anything to do with the current team, but this one shouldn't be that big of a mystery.
A tonne of negativity around the team atm, the worst I've seen it in a long long time.
Young Qb, looks to be a solid Defense, added Moreno and Albert, granted two likely rookie starters on the OL is not awesome to contemplate..then again compared to the hot steaming cow patty we saw on the OL last yr, that should be a cause for hope not negativity.
WORST case scenario is we start James and Turner or Thomas at LG all three unproven players still..it's not like we are hoping Trent Green can manage to get the ball to Chris Chambers or Chad Henne somehow can make it work with Brandon Marshall
Padre,
This time lat year there was a lot of positivity about the team. Adding Wallace, trading up to #3 overall, expecting Tannehill to step up. Then we got the worst OL since the 'phins were an expansion team. People aren't drinking the kool aid this years after last year's batch.
If we expected the phins to be 4-12 last year and they went 8-8 then people would be excited, I think many people are worried that it will take longer to fix the OL than one season.
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