Stephen Ross: Right Now we all have to be optimistic

Rant much?

What are you doing here then? You should just give up being a fan if you have no optimism.

Do you want him to say we are hopeless?

Or is this just another reason to criticize an owner because you have nothing better else to add or say?

That's what I do. Yessir.

<--- Firecracker

I don't hold out much hope for the season, but what is the guy supposed to say?

"Hey fans, we suck, but come spend your money on us anyway"

Come on. He's got no choice after the debacle of his own making in January other than to let this thing play out for the season and then actually make a decision and stick by it, whatever it is.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

That's what I do. Yessir.

<--- Firecracker

So call Jim Rome and scream like a mumbling fool.. What type of reaction do you expect here????

:shifty:

"schmolioot wrote:

I don't hold out much hope for the season, but what is the guy supposed to say?

"Hey fans, we suck, but come spend your money on us anyway"

Come on. He's got no choice after the debacle of his own making in January other than to let this thing play out for the season and then actually make a decision and stick by it, whatever it is.

A good part of that debacle was PR rated, if we landed the big catch we would all be praising Ross.. Of course twitter, forums and relentless media turned it in to a circus.

"Bumrush wrote:

What are you doing here then? You should just give up being a fan if you have no optimism.

Do you want him to say we are hopeless?

Or is this just another reason to criticize an owner because you have nothing better else to add or say?

Are you ****ing kidding me?

He's a terrible owner. He could give a **** LESS about winning games. He wants NAMES to win the backpage. Be they shiny former pro bowlers or minority owners. He KILLS our homefield advantage for what? To have more 'Orange Carpet' parties?

Its a message board. And my message is: As an Owner, Stephen Ross SUCKS.

Win a ****ing playoff game. That's the bar. It ain't terribly high. WIN ONE GODDAMN PLAYOFF GAME, then you can tell me how he's the next steinbrenner.

Why shouldn't we be optimistic? Ireland and Sparano's master plan is a stroke of genius. :pointlol:

"Bumrush wrote:

A good part of that debacle was PR rated, if we landed the big catch we would all be praising Ross.. Of course twitter, forums and relentless media turned it in to a circus.

What are you talking about? Who the hell PUBLICLY courts a coach before firing the incumbent?

It's classless and made us look bush league to everyone around the league with half a brain.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Are you ****ing kidding me?

He's a terrible owner. He could give a **** LESS about winning games. He wants NAMES to win the backpage. Be they shiny former pro bowlers or minority owners. He KILLS our homefield advantage for what? To have more 'Orange Carpet' parties?

Its a message board. And my message is: As an Owner, Stephen Ross SUCKS.

Win a ****ing playoff game. That's the bar. It ain't terribly high. WIN ONE GODDAMN PLAYOFF GAME, then you can tell me how he's the next steinbrenner.

You make no sense. He went out and got a premier WR. He HAS brought energy to the stadium with some of his moves. Wayne didn't win jack his last 15 years with the team and supposedly made all the right moves by bringing in JJ, Saban, Parcells and approving the Ricky trade.

Blame the front office or the players, but to blame the owner with an open pocketbook for not winning a playoff game is not only ludicrous but also stupid.

The fact that Dan Henning is no longer here gives me a reason to be optimistic.

"PhinsRDbest wrote:

Why shouldn't we be optimistic? Ireland and Sparano's master plan looks genius. :pointlol:

I'm a Team Sunshine Cowboys Guy. I've been backing them through and through.
But it's become clear Ross has NO CONFIDENCE in them, and is meddling in football opps.

When an owner who has no idea what he's doing starts effecting football decisions, it never ends well.

He thinks he's ****ing Jerry Jones.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Are you ****ing kidding me?

He's a terrible owner. He could give a **** LESS about winning games. He wants NAMES to win the backpage. Be they shiny former pro bowlers or minority owners. He KILLS our homefield advantage for what? To have more 'Orange Carpet' parties?

Its a message board. And my message is: As an Owner, Stephen Ross SUCKS.

Win a ****ing playoff game. That's the bar. It ain't terribly high. WIN ONE GODDAMN PLAYOFF GAME, then you can tell me how he's the next steinbrenner.

Wow, there's literally no real substance to that post at all. Ross took over one of the worst teams in the league. While we're still not very good, we are still better each year, IMO. I have seen absolutely nothing, outside of losing the 1pm home games, that indicates that he doesn't badly want to win.

"Bumrush wrote:

You make no sense. He went out and got a premier WR. He HAS brought energy to the stadium with some of his moves. Wayne didn't win jack his last 15 years with the team and supposedly made all the right moves by bringing in JJ, Saban, Parcells and approving the Ricky trade.

Blame the front office or the players, but to blame the owner with an open pocketbook for not winning a playoff game is not only ludicrous but also stupid.

He got a WR who beat his wife then got stabbed for it. Guess that bumps up the intrigue factor.

A owner who wants to win gives the blank checkbook to his GM and gets out of the way. He doesnt conduct a high profile coach wooing in public before CANNING THE GUY On the job.

Embarrassing.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

What are you talking about? Who the hell PUBLICLY courts a coach before firing the incumbent?

It's classless and made us look bush league to everyone around the league with half a brain.

Nobody cares anymore. What's done is done.

Teams release franchise stars everyday and dump them like garbage. The NFL is a business, not etiquette class. Sh*t happens. You can spend the rest of your life crying about this or get over.. I suggest you get over it and try to enjoy the season.

Ross's entire press conference was a mish mash of platitudes and nonsense.

The only thin interesting that sticks out is that he profusely praised Ireland for being hard working, not panicking, extremely intelligent, etc., yet here he is on tony:

"Tony's a nice guy. The players like him. He's got to win this year"

Ireland is clearly on safe ground than Tony and I think that's why you will not see a move for a QB, even Orton, unless he's released or comes real cheap. Ireland is saving thos high picks for himself, and the next head coach whom he might have a hand in choosing.

Ireland is acting like a guy who is going to have another chance to find a franchise QB, and Sparano is going to be the guy that suffers for it.

"Bumrush wrote:

Nobody cares anymore. What's done is done.

Teams release franchise stars everyday and dump them like garbage. The NFL is a business, not etiquette class. Sh*t happens. You can spend the rest of your life crying about this or get over.. I suggest you get over it and try to enjoy the season.

Name another NFL team in recent memory that did that with a head coach. Please. Respectable franchises don't do that. It's why we didn't land Harbaugh and Cowher wouldnt even acknowledge us. Coaches are a fraternity, and you need to do things the right way by them. It's not hard to grasp.

And on the improvement, Ohio: Going 7-9 again and losing to the ****ing Browns and Bills? Hardly an improvement.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

He got a WR who beat his wife then got stabbed for it. Guess that bumps up the intrigue factor.

A owner who wants to win gives the blank checkbook to his GM and gets out of the way. He doesnt conduct a high profile coach wooing in public before CANNING THE GUY On the job.

Embarrassing.

Wrong. The news media and twitter universe made it impossible to negotiate or even explore different coaching options.

Ross got burned by it and will hopefully learn something new from it. All your crocodile tears over how Sparano was treated mean nothing to me as he is still cashing in on a multimillion dollar contract and is still employed.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

WHY?
Are we excited about going 6-10 and finishing 3rd in the AFCE?

Are we excited about you stringing Soprano along and not firing him while trying to hire someone else IN ONE OF THE MOST EMBARRASSING SPECTACLES THIS FRANCHISE HAS EVER SEEN?

Are we optimistic that Brian Daboll, who led an offense TO LEASE POINTS THAN DAN FREAKING HENNING is going to catch lightning in a bottle?

Are we excited that We have spent the last decade defining perpetual mediocrity?

What prey tell are we excited and or optimistic about?

Every team in our division is loading up. And we're STAYING THE 7-9 course.

How refreshing.

Huh?

First... 6-10? Why are we going to be worse this year than last year... when we have a ton of young players who are only getting better and have had zero significant losses?

2nd... what are you talking about how we are "staying the course"? Do you not see us trying to be aggressive out there? Trading for Bush, trying to trade for Orton, etc. What about our actions say that we are trying to "stay the course"? Our actions represent the exact opposite?

I love the adamant defense of Ross like he's done ANYTHING for this franchise. It's amusing.

I guess you were out in the sun too long waiting for the Heat parade to swing by. :)

"FinNasty wrote:

Huh?

First... 6-10? Why are we going to be worse this year than last year... when we have a ton of young players who are only getting better and have had zero significant losses?

2nd... what are you talking about how we are "staying the course"? Do you not see us trying to be aggressive out there? Trading for Bush, trying to trade for Orton, etc. What about our actions say that we are trying to "stay the course"? Our actions represent the exact opposite?

Draft Linemen. Sign ExCowboys. Add Celebrity Part Owner. Call it an offseason.

This SHOULD be where the Free Agents want to come. And right now, we're just 'the other team' they use as leverage. That's sad.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

I love the adamant defense of Ross like he's done ANYTHING for this franchise. It's amusing.

I guess you were out in the sun too long waiting for the Heat parade to swing by. :)

I like how you clearly don't know how a business works.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Are you ****ing kidding me?

He's a terrible owner. He could give a **** LESS about winning games. He wants NAMES to win the backpage. Be they shiny former pro bowlers or minority owners. He KILLS our homefield advantage for what? To have more 'Orange Carpet' parties?

Its a message board. And my message is: As an Owner, Stephen Ross SUCKS.

Win a ****ing playoff game. That's the bar. It ain't terribly high. WIN ONE GODDAMN PLAYOFF GAME, then you can tell me how he's the next steinbrenner.

While I appreciate your fire and vinegar for the team I honestly do not see much if any proof supporting throwing Ross under the bus at this point. Actually none at all IMO. I'm one that didn't support the naysayers of Wayne H. either though who did nothing but open his checkbook in support of building a winner but never got there.

Where do you get that he does not care about winning games?
What exactly tells you that?

Because he's smart enough to be doing things outside of the game to build PR and attention to the team in the community with the "Orange Carpet" idea?
Famous "minority owners" is basically another PR move meant to bring attention to the Dolphins and take advantage of the uniqueness of the S. FL. community that just happens to be full of celebrities. These are the types of things an owner does handle while allowing his football people who know the game to make football decisions.

As far as Ross "killing our home field advantage".
That one is really off.
Our home field advantage was significantly weakend the minute we moved into Joe Robbie Stadium from the OB and has been killed by our teams lack of success.

Honestly, IMO, Ross is the LEAST of our problems.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Name another NFL team in recent memory that did that with a head coach. Please. Respectable franchises don't do that. It's why we didn't land Harbaugh and Cowher wouldnt even acknowledge us. Coaches are a fraternity, and you need to do things the right way by them. It's not hard to grasp.

And on the improvement, Ohio: Going 7-9 again and losing to the ****ing Browns and Bills? Hardly an improvement.

Name me another "elite" franchise that has been as mediocre and horrific as the Phins have since the mid-90's.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. However, this attempt to bring in the superstar head coach has been tested and has failed this franchise. I'm glad we didn't land Harbaugh and your assumption that we didn't land Cowher is irrelevant as he didn't land anywhere, thus you can assume he wasn't on the market looking for a job.

Life isn't fair. It wasn't fair to Sparano, but he is back and has a chance to redeem himself. I personally love Sparano (save for the fist pump FG love) and don't feel as if Ross did anything wrong. Business owners constantly look to improve and if he could have pulled off these conversations with Harbaugh without it becoming a media circus, then the entire episode would have simply been an owner doing his due diligence to recruit a potential upgrade, before eliminating your current coach.