Strategic look at the 53 man roster
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padre31luxury_boxOPQuarterback (3) - Chad Henne, Chad Pennington, Tyler Thigpen
Running Back (5) - Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams, Patrick Cobbs, Lex Hilliard, Lousaka Polite
Wide Receiver (5) - Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, Marlon Moore, Roberto Wallace
Tight End (2) - Anthony Fasano, John Nalbone
Offensive Line (9) - Jake Long, Vernon Carey, Jake Grove, Joe Berger, John Jerry, Richie Incognito, Cory Procter, Lydon Murtha, Pat McQuistan
Defensive Line (7) - Kendall Langford, Jared Odrick, Randy Starks, Paul Soliai, Marques Douglas, Tony McDaniel, Charles Grant
Inside Linebacker (4) - Karlos Dansby, Channing Crowder, Tim Dobbins, Micah Johnson
Outside Linebacker (5) - Cameron Wake, Koa Misi, Ike Alama-Francis, Charlie Anderson, Quentin Moses
Cornerback (6) - Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Will Allen, Nolan Carroll, Benny Sapp, Jason Allen
Safety (4) - Yeremiah Bell, Chris Clemons, Tyrone Culver, Reshad Jones
Special Teams (3) - Dan Carpenter, Brandon Fields, John Denney
Alright, and I did think about poaching Sammie's work...plagerism is the soul of scholarship after all..
This is what jumps out at me:
-Deepest 3 Qb rotation in the AFCE, go three deep on the Pats and you'll find Julian Edelman..Bills..Ryan Fitzpatrick..Jests..Kellen Clemons.
-The mutant Wildcat is dead, dead, dead, no more Pistol, no more Wishbone, no more Option on the edge..if anything Ronnie Brown will throw the ball if it needs to be thrown.
-Defensive playmaking positions are manned by newbs, OLB, FS, DE, all have young or new players to that position manning them.
-We are going to see 3 and 4 Wr sets.
-Sparano is making a heavy wager on Anthony Fasano repeating his 2008 performance.
-Looking at the Cb unit, who goes when Will Allen is healthy?
-Ikaika Francis replaces Erik Walden on Special Teams, Q Moses retains his backup role behind Misi.
-OLB unit is very young in terms of starts
-Ty Culver replaces Nate Jones role at least partially.
-Sparano went with players he trusts from his Cowboys days as the backup Olinemen.
-lots of UDFA talent, Wallace, Bess, Moore, Polite, Douglas, Carpenter, Wake, Culver, Johnson.
As for Strategy, it appears that Starters are exactly that, Starters, they are going to play more snaps than in the past simply because the backups are very young.
Wr, Te, 5 man Oline starters, look at the depth, really green players Sparano must feel that the UDFA's can play at a high level if called upon because the back 3 Wr's are all UDFA's.
My impression of the offensive talent is it reminds me of a mid 80's redskins team:
Art Monk=Brandon Marshall
Ricky Sanders=Brian Hartline
Gary Clark=Devone Bess
Clint Diddier=Anthony Fasano
Hogs=Orca 5
Jay Schroeder=Chad Henne
Defense:
Dexter Manley=Cam Wake
Charles Mann=Kendal Langford
Dave Butts=Randy Starks
Hmm...
Stitchesluxury_boxShouldn't it be the Pod-5?
A group of dolphins can be called a Pod or School. Most everything associated with our team refers to common and/or bottlenose dolphins.
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
padre31luxury_box"Stitches wrote:
Shouldn't it be the Pod-5?
A group of dolphins can be called a Pod or School. They are certainly not Orcas.
The Orca 5 are not amused...
Stitchesluxury_box"padre31 wrote:
The Orca 5 are not amused...
I didn't know we were the Miami Whales, sorry.
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
padre31luxury_box"Stitches wrote:
I didn't know we were the Miami Whales, sorry.
Well, the entire oline is 6'3 or taller and weighs at least in the 310 range..two legged whales maybe?
Stitchesluxury_box"padre31 wrote:
Well, the entire oline is 6'3 or taller and weighs at least in the 310 range..two legged whales maybe?
Bottlenose can easily get over 400, so I think our OL needs to get bigger. :lol:
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
Frumundah FinnaticNew MemberOrcas are apart of the Dolphin family though.
They are just big Dolphins.
MonstBlitz;2232016 wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.
BigDogsHuntNew MemberGeez, you are arguing over an OL nickname and whether it ties into the Teams Mascot name?
The HOGS had no relevance to the Washington Redskins....they were simply big bodies clearly a path for the DIESEL John Riggins. Unless a truck shouldn't be used?
ORCA-5 is not really something to get worked up about from a relationship stand point to the Dolphins now is it.....unless every Dolphin has a name, thus the NO-NAME Defense is silly too.
BDH -
"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.
"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."
Jimmy V. (Mar '93)
Stitchesluxury_box"BigDogsHunt wrote:
Geez, you are arguing over an OL nickname and whether it ties into the Teams Mascot name?
The HOGS had no relevance to the Washington Redskins....they were simply big bodies clearly a path for the DIESEL John Riggins. Unless a truck shouldn't be used?
ORCA-5 is not really something to get worked up about from a relationship stand point to the Dolphins now is it.....unless every Dolphin has a name, thus the NO-NAME Defense is silly to.
But I want to argue with Padre. How else am I supposed to get to 20k? :sad:
Edit: I see I'm there now. ****.
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
"Stitches wrote:
Shouldn't it be the Pod-5?
Yeah. I don't want to step on anyone's toes, because I know the nickname "Orca 5" gets a lot of play around here, but it just seems silly and forced. We haven't had any real consistency regarding players on the OL for a good while now. If our OL absolutely needs a nickname, why don't we first field a group of guys that play together day in and day out, let them develop a personality as a line, and then find something that fits that particular group of guys?
Sorry for the continued derail.
Stitchesluxury_box"josephreese wrote:
Yeah. I don't want to step on anyone's toes, because I know the nickname "Orca 5" gets a lot of play around here, but it just seems silly and forced. We haven't had any real consistency regarding players on the OL for a good while now. If our OL absolutely needs a nickname, why don't we first field a group of guys that play together day in and day out, let them develop a personality as a line, and then find something that fits that particular group of guys?
Sorry for the continued derail.
I like this guy. :lol:
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
djphinfansubscriberIts hard to believe that after 3 years were still poachin scrub olineman off the cowboys roster and their making the team...
Our head coach/oline coach cant be too happy about that..
Stitchesluxury_box"djphinfan wrote:
Its hard to believe that after 3 years were still poachin scrub olineman off the cowboys roster and their making the team...
Our head coach/oline coach cant be too happy about that..
Or he's happy to get them, because he knows what they bring and liked them in Dallas.
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
padre31luxury_box"BigDogsHunt wrote:
Geez, you are arguing over an OL nickname and whether it ties into the Teams Mascot name?
The HOGS had no relevance to the Washington Redskins....they were simply big bodies clearly a path for the DIESEL John Riggins. Unless a truck shouldn't be used?
ORCA-5 is not really something to get worked up about from a relationship stand point to the Dolphins now is it.....unless every Dolphin has a name, thus the NO-NAME Defense is silly to.
Exactly, this stuff is supposed to be...fun.
There are those, however, whom were born without a entertaining bone in their body..we've all met them..volunteered to be the hall monitors, those kids who were severly toilet trained.
Sad really...:pity:
:lol:
padre31luxury_box"djphinfan wrote:
Its hard to believe that after 3 years were still poachin scrub olineman off the cowboys roster and their making the team...
Our head coach/oline coach cant be too happy about that..
Sparano is not messing around this year Deej, meaning Starters will have 90% of the reps, developmental players will be more or less frozen in place.
The one caveat is TE, Henne operates the best out of a 2 Te set, I simply cannot see going to Buffalo A)with Nalbone as the #2 Te B)removing that extremely effective alignment from the playbook.
They liked Wallace and Moore enough to make room for them by waiving the #44 overall pick and the #76 (or so) overall pick, there must be some role in mind for those two to pay that heavy a penalty to not risk putting them on the practice squad.
As well as discarding any vision of some grand WildCat Qb..though I do suspect Ronnie B will pass more out of that formation this year.
xphinfanxforum_veteran"djphinfan wrote:
Its hard to believe that after 3 years were still poachin scrub olineman off the cowboys roster and their making the team...
Our head coach/oline coach cant be too happy about that..
I was thinking the same thing dj feel like we are grabbing scraps.
That's why they play the games!:yes:
BigDogsHuntNew Member"Stitches wrote:
But I want to argue with Padre. How else am I supposed to get to 20k? :sad:
Edit: I see I'm there now. ****.
dont get me started on the Killer B's either!!!!!!
BDH -
"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.
"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."
Jimmy V. (Mar '93)
padre31luxury_box"xphinfanx wrote:
I was thinking the same thing dj feel like we are grabbing scraps.
Don't be to hasty tomorrow the waiver claims are reconciled, if awarded player(s) someone is leaving.
Ohio FanaticsubscriberIf Fasano gets injured we are royally screwed at that position
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"BigDogsHunt wrote:
Geez, you are arguing over an OL nickname and whether it ties into the Teams Mascot name?
The HOGS had no relevance to the Washington Redskins....they were simply big bodies clearly a path for the DIESEL John Riggins. Unless a truck shouldn't be used?
ORCA-5 is not really something to get worked up about from a relationship stand point to the Dolphins now is it.....unless every Dolphin has a name, thus the NO-NAME Defense is silly to.
Well, I think they are both lame. :up:
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BigDogsHuntNew Member"huck1974 wrote:
Well, I think they are both lame. :up:
What's lame? nicknames for OL? or given players? or entire defenses?
BDH -
"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.
"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."
Jimmy V. (Mar '93)
"BigDogsHunt wrote:
What's lame? nicknames for OL? or given players? or entire defenses?
Cheesy names for the line.
Maybe we can call it "The expensive average guys".
or "one stud and the hand me downs"
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padre31luxury_box"huck1974 wrote:
Cheesy names for the line.
Maybe we can call it "The expensive average guys".
or "one stud and the hand me downs"
Big Jake and some other guys?
What the hell are we going to do about the TE situation?
I understand that Dmart can roll back in after Fluffalo at a savings but.....
Were we all wrong about depending on two TE sets this year?
Didn't we need them to keep our QB off his ass the entire last season?
Now our line looks suspect in preseason again and we are going three wide?
Someone explain the madness to me
The long drive back from Dallas on no sleep half drunk sucked. It was worth it though.
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Isnt Sean Smith supposed to be better this year. He looks like toast.
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