I just know this oline and backfield needs to improve pass protection so the kid can shred defenses.

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we know he can run, i'm much happier that he can apparently pass

 

I actually don't know he can run well. Honestly, the few times I've seen him scramble, and him being a former wide receiver, he's not very fast.

 

I think it sounds like coach speak. If RT ran more Philbin would be praising him for identifying that the pocket is collapsing and using his legs to keep drives alive. I do believe that RT is being groomed and growing into his position rather nicely. I just do not much weight into comments like those.

 

That stat is pretty much a red herring. He can run. Its not like he has lead weights around his ankles. He isn't a burner when he takes off but he can get to the 1st down marker if needed.

 

Where do QB's like Brady,Manning and Brees rate on that list?

 

Check the Bills game last year. He blew past guys with angles.

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I think it's an excellent article and something I continue to struggle understanding, the thought of training someone to hang in the pocket without engaging their instinct to run is fascinating, and the discrepency in the ratio even from last year when it comes to running seemingly gives the statement validity..

Can you design and win a championship designing the offense to be strictly executed from he pocket, or do you need the playmaking trait when protection breaks down, Monday nite should be a good test to see where tannehill/Sherman is at this point because the intensity should be playoff like..

Like you VT it makes me feel good hearing the these specific comments.

 

Remember all that read-option talk by Sherman this offseason?? Hahahahaha

 

It's his stop to start action that isn't very good, once he gets going he pretty darn fast.

 

Damned if he didn't have me chomping at the bit..still would like to see it considering every time he ran it (which was in the 2nd half if the season btw) Ryan had a 10 yard average on 10 carries...not bad O

 

What better time to unleash it than tomorrow night? :shifty:

 

By my count, Miami has run a zone-read play twice this year - once against Indy, and once last week - Tannehill just handed it to Miller though instead of keeping it. He still carried out his fake as if he had the ball though.

 

Indeed... but you KNOW Rob Ryan called Rex for a run down on playing Tannehill. Rob is going to blitz early and often and from everywhere. I hope to see us adjusting an rolling the pocket some. Also hoping Sims does a better job in blocking after that embarrassing BS he pulled with Falcons in letting Osi U blow by him for the sack and strip.

 

I'd rather have a QB that can read a D and make adjustments throwing the ball than have a running QB anyway. The last "running" QB to win a Super Bowl was Steve Young and he only ran when he had to.

 

probably 1, 2, and 3 lol

 

Was thinking the same thing.....lol

 

Add Tanny to those three, 12-0

 

Flacco has very good pocket maneuverability and playmaking ability..

 

ME too and didn't Mike Vick and / or Daunte Culpepper wn a ring ? oh wait that was Donnovan McNabb that won a ring not the other two .

 

True, but he's not a real threat to run on you and if he does, he's not going very far.

 

Neither of those two have a ring.

 

It's great to have a QB who can make plays with his feet. At the NFL level, every extra hit on your QB adds up and increases the chances of injuries. Guys like Vick and RGIII are fun to watch but they won't stay healthy. Give me a pocket passing QB who can move around in the pocket to avoid hits/sacks and extend plays any day of the week.

When you get down to it, RTH has made substantial strides over the last 12 months. I can't even imagine what another year or two will do for him. As his pocket awareness/movement improves, he will become the franchise QB we all need and want him to be. It's still early but Ireland and the staff hit a homerun with him.

 

His athleticism doesn't "pop" but he's definitely a smooth athlete when he pulls the ball down. I think his athleticism is comparable to Aaron Rodgers, which is perfectly fine with me. Now he just needs to use that athleticism like Rodgers.

 

I just hope he survives behind this line while he continues to hang in the pocket and read defenses.

 

Hopefully his pocket presence doesn't become as shoddy.

 

He buys time behind the Los when he has to, that's the point right, playmaking ability doesn't mean run.

 

None of those three have ever won a SB ring. McNabb lost the only SB he ever made it to - to the Pats. Eagles fans still dog mcNabb for stage fright and throwing up before the SB and choking.

 

I think it's obvious this is what he did, and this is what his coaches instructed him to do, this is what they believe in, I'm not sure how much of his lethargic ness is attributed to him focused so much on hanging in the pocket, but the hope is there that your last statement is correct...that would be very high ceiling stuff if in fact his lack of quickness and perception is directly attributed to being trained to hang, then once the game slows and protection gets better, he's able to multitask in the pocket.

 

I agree. Tannehill is being coached to stay in the pocket and struggles with that at times. There are times when he has taken sacks that you can almost see him struggle internally with himself as to whether to run or stay in the pocket. Really saw that in the Colts game on that coverage sack he took. He started to tuck and run, stopped, paused, then ate the sack. Wish he had either thrown it away or just ran.

 

that's interesting, great point, something to look closely to.

 

I also think that is where the comments about Tannehill occasionally looking like a "Deer in the headlights" comes from. It's the inner struggle as to whether to stand in the pocket as he is being coached and to ignore his instincts to run. That struggle seems to freeze him at times.

 

Yep, exactly what I'm trying to say.

 

Didn't Football Outsiders have Miami going 6-10 this season?

 

dude is a loose cannon..I've watched all of their games and he just doesn't think he has to play between the lines, ever, i guess that can be a good thing and a bad thing, at some point you have to play smarter football.

 

Running quarterbacks don't win championships. Steve Young was not a running quarterback anymore when he got his ring.

 

I love this discussion...the kid is focused downfield...one hopes that when that experience gets better and better, he will be able to take on other tasks during the rush.

 

I'd like to see him just buy a little more time w/ his pocket presence as well as avoid big hits. He's getting rid of the ball quickly and doing what he's getting paid to do so it's hard to be too picky. I would like to see improvement from the line that allows him more time for slower developing (deeper) routes.