Keep in in mind that the players currently ranked 1-5, 5-10, and 10-15 etc... will rise and fall after the combine..., Juniors are still declaring..., people need to show a little more flexibility with their thiniking....
I think OTs will climb and so will QBs..., the two most important positions to fill on any team...
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that's why I don't pay too much attention to mock drafts at this time. There's still so much that can happen between now and April. Not to mention whatever happens in FA will affect the draft as well.
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Damn NFL Network. Looks like ima have to find a friend to stay with those few days
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Qbs will climb at the combine that doesn't necessarily mean anything..., on draft day they always fall... Beck isn't mobile..., isn't very vocal... and if BP doesn't see saviour written all over him... I'll say it again if Beck ain't the saviour... (watch Beck's body language listen to Beck says in the media).... he is mired in QB controversey day 1. BP won't do anything to diminish Beck's worth or confidence by drafting a QB..., maybe light a fire within... He is supposed to be a professional everyone here wants to coddle the guy...
You draft all defense you are looking for a short term solution..., this team needs to think longer range... Defensive help will arrive during FA you'll see... There isn't a FA QB that I would be willing to pay the big $ to..., even FA QBs get there fair share of $..., still QBs go down like every other week in this league...,
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How is drafting young players on defense a short term solution and bringing in older vets through FA not??? I don't buy that for a second.
We don't need to draft ALL defense but it should definitely be a priority.finswin56 likes this. -
I'm not saying draft all defense and rely on rookies, but to say drafting defensive players is a short term solution makes absolutely no sense. We need to find a happy medium. Bring in a few solid vets to help groom younger players for the long term. -
Its extremely premature at this point to even suggest what we end up doing. We don't even have a Head Coach yet, we assume we'll run a 3-4 defense, we have no idea what offensive system we'll run, and we don't know what current players we'll keep. So obviously our needs could change but based on our issues from this past year I think these mocks have reason to be one sided. -
Gholston is going to be a top 5 pick after the combine.
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What are you suggesting...? defenses win games...?
Field position wins games...?
Will you concede that the offense should forfeit their pay to the Defense for hanging them out to dry most of the season... Talant wise some D guys were hurt..., D scheme was vanilla, and the D guys were exhausted...
How many freaking unsurmountable leads did the Offense provide the defense..., the Defense was tweaking every play..., every play was like if we blow it the offense will never get us back in this one...
The defense is not as collectively bad as you think..., especially had we picked Okoye or Willis if Brady was that bad....
My question Motion... "How can you justify not spending early picks on the Oline...?" -
I can easily justify not spending early picks on the Oline because that was one of the brighter spots of the team this season, there weren't many. Carey, Satele, and hopefully Hadnot are all keepers. Upgrades can be made of course, but our front seven on defense and a solid DB or two should be a priority.
I am absolutely suggesting that the defense was horrible and yes it needs alot of work. The injury excuse can only go so far, we need better starters and depth.
I am not saying the offense should be ignored. I'm all for taking a TE or WR in the 2nd round and a Olineman in the 3rd or 4th. We used the first 3 picks on offense last year and have little to show for it.Last edited: Jan 9, 2008 -
1) 20 shuttle - He came in 4th behind Anthony Gonzales, Chris Davis, and David Clowney. For comparison, Yamon Figurs came in 9th.
2) 3 cone - He came in 6th, just behind Dewayne Bowe, 6.82 to Bowe's 6.81. Just in front of Yamon Figurs who had a 6.85.
3) 40 yd - Ran 4.70. For comparison, Lemon ran a 4.9. -
On a side note: It's my belief that Cam didn't roll Beck out like he did Lemon, to make him read the defense...contrary to what Cam was saying, I think he was trying to develop John for the long term.Last edited: Jan 9, 2008 -
It was a poor argument on my part..., what I was trying to say... Game speed and running pylons are different beasts..., Andre Ware was very mobile QB who never panned out...
I am so not sold on Beck..., not that Brady Q was better..., but BP and Ireland will move in the direction(s) they need to go... -
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I don't need many posts too explain it....Last edited: Jan 9, 2008 -
BTW, this is only a discussion board, it's not life or death, and I'm certainly not here to insult anyone or hurt anyone's feelings regardless of how silly some things sound (and no, that's not a shot at you). Hope you have a good day. :thumbup: -
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Thanks for the heads-up, BDH. Really appreciate that, Big Dog.
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I think once the combine is over you're going to see Brohm overtake Ryan as the #1 QB prospect. Just a hunch on my part. I've seen Brohm play for 4 years and trust me if for some unEarthly reason he is there at #32, he's a steal. Wouldn't that be poetic? Falling just like Marino did in his draft...
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I'm not for drafting Ryan with our first pick because I'm comfortable with Beck, but, this is what Boston College football coach and former Falcons assistant Jeff Jagodzinski says about him..."I've had this guy before — his name was Matt Hasselbeck."
http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/sports/falcons/stories/2008/01/08/gimmefive_0109.html
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First overall - 40 million no one strikes me as a 40 million dollar guy...
Interesting you missed the other top four reasons his coach was "high" on him...., his reference to Matt Hassealbeck was also a pro not a con... -
As for the pros of the story, I don't have a problem with Ryan, I actually like him, I just don't think we'll draft him, but my question is still interesting. -
When does the Combine start