The Oakland Game Will Tell Us...What?

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shourightshourightNew MemberOP
Sep 16, 2012, 09:31 AM

Explain the rationale for your choice if you would.

dWreckdWreckNew Member
Sep 16, 2012, 09:32 AM

That we are 1-1


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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 09:34 AM

It will tell us if we beat therm or not.

I encourage everyone to remember this is Tanny's second game as a pro and 21st as a starting QB, period.

pennphinfanpennphinfanforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 09:36 AM

Will give us our first gauge of how tannehill responds to a shaky performance

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 10:12 AM

A loss would be disastrous. West coast teams flying east for 1 PM games historically lose, especially those coming off short weeks. It would mean this team can't win even with a huge built-in advantage.

No matter how bad you think this team is, you should expect to win at least this and the Seahawks game, due entirely to the effects of travel. This is as close to a guaranteed win as a professional sport can allow. If the Dolphins screw this up, then start watching college ball and break out the draft websites.

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Stringer BellStringer Bellsubscriber
Sep 16, 2012, 10:27 AM

1/16th of what the season will tell us.

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BpkBpkluxury_box
Sep 16, 2012, 10:38 AM

This thread is déjà vu

SpringveldtSpringveldtforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 10:42 AM

This game is almost like the NFL throwing us a bone. If we **** this one up then I'm expecting us to be in the running for the #1 overall next year because we must be a truly awful team.

I don't see it happening though. I expect us to win this one (with a little to spare) and go on to win 8 games this year.

cdz12250cdz12250subscriber
Sep 16, 2012, 10:46 AM

It will tell us, without a doubt, how bad we really are.

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Sep 16, 2012, 11:03 AM

voted both... a chance of being good can be anywhere from .0001% to 99.999%. :shifty: There's always a chance. But if we lose... :pity: Not having Daniel Thomas is going to be a big blow. We ran all over them last year. But it helps to have DT in the backfield.

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RoninFin4RoninFin4subscriber
Sep 16, 2012, 11:22 AM

I voted neither. Still to early in my eyes to determine whether or not Miami's going to be good/bad. That said, Miami beat Oakland pretty decisively last year (34-14 I think), granted, Oakland appears to be better this year. Just saying.

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PSGPSGforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 11:32 AM

"Desides wrote:

A loss would be disastrous. West coast teams flying east for 1 PM games historically lose, especially those coming off short weeks. It would mean this team can't win even with a huge built-in advantage.

No matter how bad you think this team is, you should expect to win at least this and the Seahawks game, due entirely to the effects of travel. This is as close to a guaranteed win as a professional sport can allow. If the Dolphins screw this up, then start watching college ball and break out the draft websites.

I pretty much agree.
These are games even bad teams should win.
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JimTossJimTossforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 11:47 AM

This season is not about being good or bad. (We are bad)
This season is about developing a QB.

Overall this game tells us very little.

Sep 16, 2012, 11:48 AM

Losing winnable games means we will be in for a long season, but more so mid season.
Winning this game will put us in 2nd place in the division after the Steelers beat the Jets. Then the division race will be much more hopeful since we have a chance to take care of business against the Jets in week 3.
I voted both of the above.
As long as we don't get 3 games down in the division i will be hopeful for the season. We are 1 game down against the Pats and Jets. Losing this game would possible put us 2 games down on the Pats and Jets but most likely just the Pats. Winning this game will keep it at 1 game down.

Alex44Alex44New Member
Sep 16, 2012, 12:05 PM

I don't buy the West Coast travel stat. I'm sorry but it completely negates a lot of factors such as which team was favored for instance. The AFC West has been bad for a while now while the East generally has had good teams or at least AS good as the West. Why would anyone be surprised that Oakland going to NE would result in a win for the Patriots 75%+ of the time? I really hate this stat and find it to be utter mind dribbling garbage.

Today will tell me if the tipped passes are a major problem or a fluke.

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ExplosionsInDaSkyExplosionsInDaSkyforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 12:07 PM

It's early so I really don't know. I mean after last seasons 0-7 train wreck to start the year who the hell knows? We went from 0-7 looking like the bottom feeding team of the NFL to a playoff team the second half of the year.

Rocky RaccoonRocky Raccoonmoderator
Sep 16, 2012, 12:08 PM

"Alex44 wrote:

I don't buy the West Coast travel stat. I'm sorry but it completely negates a lot of factors such as which team was favored for instance. The AFC West has been bad for a while now while the East generally has had good teams or at least AS good as the West. Why would anyone be surprised that Oakland going to NE would result in a win for the Patriots 75%+ of the time? I really hate this stat and find it to be utter mind dribbling garbage.

Today will tell me if the tipped passes are a major problem or a fluke.

I agree. It's also kind of disrespectful to the home team basically saying "you only won because they had to fly out from the west coast."

It's an advantage for sure, but it still comes down to execution.

Deus ex dolphinDeus ex dolphinforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 12:11 PM

This is a game even a bad team should be able to win with all the advantages we have this week. If we don't, we are looking at a top 5 pick next year. Now if Tanny develops as the year goes on, then the draft gets really interesting with high picks. I would be fine with trading away the #1 pick for a draft fortune as the Rams did this year. I would rather win games, but this team is not currently built to compete with the better teams in the NFL.

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byroanbyroanadmin
Sep 16, 2012, 12:13 PM

"Desides wrote:

A loss would be disastrous. West coast teams flying east for 1 PM games historically lose, especially those coming off short weeks. It would mean this team can't win even with a huge built-in advantage.

No matter how bad you think this team is, you should expect to win at least this and the Seahawks game, due entirely to the effects of travel. This is as close to a guaranteed win as a professional sport can allow. If the Dolphins screw this up, then start watching college ball and break out the draft websites.

I wouldn't bet on us beating the 49ers if they were coming to Miami for a 1pm game.

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shourightshourightNew Member
Sep 16, 2012, 12:15 PM

I think we get a win today with anything short of a Ryan Tannehill self-destruction, which sad to say is entirely possible because he's a rookie.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 12:48 PM

"Alex44 wrote:

I don't buy the West Coast travel stat.

That's fine. It's still real.

"byroan wrote:

I wouldn't bet on us beating the 49ers if they were coming to Miami for a 1pm game.

But the 49ers aren't coming to Miami for a 1 PM game, so what does that have to do with the Raiders coming to Miami for a 1 PM game? (And I'd still bet on the Dolphins to cover the spread against the traveling 49ers.)

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Dolphins1BeatlesDolphins1Beatlesforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 01:53 PM

I think its big. I know its only Tannehill's second game, but the defense and running game should perform well enough to win. To lose to the Raiders, who aren't that great either, with all the factors people have mentioned would be a joke. You should expect to beat a mediocre team flying from the west coast on a short week, especially one who is better at running than passing when our run defense should be a strength...though most teams have their best passing games against us, its not like they're the Patriots.

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phinfan13phinfan13New Member
Sep 16, 2012, 03:26 PM

That Tannehill's blind side is at risk with the way Long has been playing

SpringveldtSpringveldtforum_veteran
Sep 16, 2012, 03:57 PM

*cough*

Home bankers as I said. :D

"Alex44 wrote:

I don't buy the West Coast travel stat. I'm sorry but it completely negates a lot of factors such as which team was favored for instance. The AFC West has been bad for a while now while the East generally has had good teams or at least AS good as the West. Why would anyone be surprised that Oakland going to NE would result in a win for the Patriots 75%+ of the time? I really hate this stat and find it to be utter mind dribbling garbage.

Today will tell me if the tipped passes are a major problem or a fluke.

dolfan32323dolfan32323New Member
Sep 16, 2012, 04:01 PM

That the RB depth chart should be:

1) Reggie Bush
2) Reggie Bush
3) Lamar Miller
4) Daniel Thomas

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