****The Official 2014-15 NBA Thread****

"schmolioot wrote:

Can't do anything more really till we finalize Wade/Haslem and convert their massive cap holds to actual salary

Haslem has a massive cap hold?

"schmolioot wrote:

I believe it did. They had to make both the Asik and Lin moves to offer Bosh the max, which they did

fixed

"schmolioot wrote:

I believe it did. They had to make both the Asik and Deng moves to offer Bosh the max, which they did

It isn't an official trade yet as far as I can find, though you may be right as this is two days old I can't find any official details on a trade being completed.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/11/cavaliers-reportedly-trading-alonzo-gee-to-pelicans-which-could-lead-to-omer-asik-trade/

$8M is a lot to take on for Asik, though. Not sure we even could.

I love the Deng contract. Didn't budge on money, and the contract length is just right; get that money off the books just when it's time to sign them all at a discount again.

Also, Skolnick reports the Heat are trying to re-sign Birdman tonight.

"Alex44 wrote:

Sure, but you're acting like I'm saying they aren't "likely" to win. Huge difference in that and saying it isn't a foregone conclusion.

I think it is a foregone conclusion. You're relying on what-ifs. That doesn't enhance your position, it means you're looking for caveats. We're discussing potential basketball happenings 11 months from now. All we have to go on is the paper matchups. On paper, the west is going to win the next championship. That's all that's being said. On paper.

"Desides wrote:

I love the Deng contract. Didn't budge on money, and the contract length is just right; get that money off the books just when it's time to sign them all at a discount again.

Also, Skolnick reports the Heat are trying to re-sign Birdman tonight.

I think it is a foregone conclusion. You're relying on what-ifs. That doesn't enhance your position, it means you're looking for caveats. We're discussing potential basketball happenings 11 months from now. All we have to go on is the paper matchups. On paper, the west is going to win the next championship. That's all that's being said. On paper.

That is fair. I agree with -that-

The game is played on the court though so I can't agree to saying there is a 0% chance the East loses though. I still think we would match up fairly well with a team like OKC or even Houston. A lot of moving parts still as well.

So the Heat got their top FA target (as i reported), at a favorable number/years.

Riley.

@EthanJSkolnick 9m The Heat, to my understanding haven't ruled out returns of Chalmers, Jones, Oden, Lewis or even Beasley. Trying to close Andersen tonight.

"Section126 wrote:

So the Heat got their top FA target (as i reported), at a favorable number/years.

Riley.

You mean Basketball God?

@AlbertRandom1 13m Would have access to $2.732M Room MLE. RT @IIWrenchII Falling under the cap prevents us from using MLE and Bi though right?

"Section126 wrote:

So the Heat got their top FA target (as i reported), at a favorable number/years.

Riley.

Nobody I'd rather have in these tough times

Report: Deng, Heat not close to deal By The Sports Xchange 1 hour ago

Funny ****.

"NaboCane wrote:

@EthanJSkolnick 9m The Heat, to my understanding haven't ruled out returns of Chalmers, Jones, Oden, Lewis or even Beasley. Trying to close Andersen tonight.

Vince Carter would have been SO much better and more productive a signing than both Jones and Lewis. He would have been our new Ray Allen, the one from a couple years ago.

"CaribPhin wrote:

Odds of the Rockets doing business with Miami after retaining Bosh?

Why would they not? Miami didn't negotiate with them over Bosh.

"Section126 wrote:

So the Heat got their top FA target (as i reported), at a favorable number/years.

Riley.

"aesop wrote:

There is no "net gain" when you lose LeBron. Unless you're replacing him with Durant.

I see what Nabo is saying. If you lose Lebron and replace the team with everyone on the Spurs, it's a net gain. As close as the Spurs got to winning it last year, and blowing out Miami this year, they've been the best team the past two years. No Lebron or Durant.

Lebron is a one man wrecking crew but he can be beat. He willed the Cavaliers to a Finals almost by himself before. A balanced team is more important than one superstar. Of course, the best case scenario would be keeping Lebron and then adding another scorer of that caliber.

http://www.nba.com/games/20140712/HOUMIA/gameinfo.html

Watch the move by Ennis around the 30 second mark on the recap video and I dare you not to be excited about this kid.

Napier was much better as well with 4-5 shooting and 5 assists.

‏@AlbertRandom1 2m B/c players rarely make retirements technically official. No real reason to. RT @EvBalls why is Battier's salary still counting against cap?

Didn't know that.

@AlbertRandom1 7m Yep! Heat can renounce any cap holds to recover the space. RT @EvBalls heat can renounce his rights for the space correct?

"NaboCane wrote:

Vince Carter would have been SO much better and more productive a signing than both Jones and Lewis. He would have been our new Ray Allen, the one from a couple years ago.

He costs twice as much as all of those guys. Not worth it. He also couldnt sniff Ray Allens jock from last year.

"Alex44 wrote:

http://www.nba.com/games/20140712/HOUMIA/gameinfo.html

Watch the move by Ennis around the 30 second mark on the recap video and I dare you not to be excited about this kid.

Napier was much better as well with 4-5 shooting and 5 assists.

Holy ****, Ennis is a FORCE!

And Napier finding his stroke early would help this team tremendously, and be a bonus.

"Section126 wrote:

He costs twice as much as all of those guys. Not worth it. He also couldnt sniff Ray Allens jock from last year.

Oh, please Ray Allen was so diminished last season, it wasn't fun to watch. Carter shot 40% from the 3; I'd rather have foregone Lewis and Jones both and played with 14 and Carter in as the first off the bench.

"NaboCane wrote:

Holy ****, Ennis is a FORCE!

And Napier finding his stroke early would help this team tremendously, and be a bonus.

Best part about Ennis is that unlike some guys who put up nice stats, he plays within the offense. You never see him trying to take on the defense on his own or forcing shots.

So the anticipated roster is looking like:

Chalmers
Coles
Napier
Wade
Deng
Granger
Ennis
Bosh
Haslem
McRoberts
Birdman
Oden
Hamilton

Does that sound right?

‏@AlbertRandom1 19m I refuse to make wild guesses. Let’s put this way: w/ present roster + Deng at $10M, Heat would have ~$20M + $2.7M Room MLE for Wade, Haslem

"Alex44 wrote:

Best part about Ennis is that unlike some guys who put up nice stats, he plays within the offense. You never see him trying to take on the defense on his own or forcing shots.

You're right, he looks very natural out there, in a flow. even passes to him like the BTB from SB, he took it in both hands and put it right up without any thought process. He reminds of of Joe Pepitone, the best-fielding 1B of all time. No thought, no effort—just a good play, consistently.