***The Official 2018-19 NBA Thread***
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Boik14Supporter"GARDENHEAD wrote:
I’m not mad at AD. Our ownership situation has been terrible. Our owner died and only cared about the Saints anyway.
AD gave this franchise every chance to surround him with talent and failed. Yes, they got Jrue. Yes, they took a chance on Boogie, and things would be different if he never got injured. But bottom line this team failed and had no real plan moving forward to improve the team.
I’m thankful that he made the announcement now so that we don’t trade assets for a player to help AD. We’re rebuilding now. At least we have a direction.
My ideal plan moving forward: trade Julius Randle and Nico Mirotic now for whatever you can get and then trade AD over the summer when the Celtics can drive up the bidding.
And by the way, AD is really that good and I will miss seeing him play in person. Selfishly, this sucks cause I’m gonna miss him. But this team had zero plan moving forward so we’d end up like the Miami Dolphins. Running in place.
I empathize with your situation. 1 thing i always hated about the nba though is that players control the league. Id probably go even harder to try and win now if a player who helped me do that came available knowing i have a year and a half to win a ring around AD. Your chances of drafting or acquiring another top 10 player are slim so you may as well go all in and get it done or die trying. He will always have some value so if you tried for the next year and dealt him at next years deadline youd probably get a similar package. The pels should go hard after a sign and trade in the offseason to try and get more talent around him. Or even go after a short term fix like TH JR who can help with the scoring load but isnt a super long term cap killer
GARDENHEADSupporterPelicans beat Rockets! Hahaha!!!
Harden running out of bounds after thinking he drew a foul brightened my day!!!!
Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin
phinswolverinesrocketsForum Veteran"GARDENHEAD wrote:
Pelicans beat Rockets! Hahaha!!!
Harden running out of bounds after thinking he drew a foul brightened my day!!!!
Enjoy it. I have no excuses. We've lost to so many scrubs this season that I've become numb to it. This may be worse than the loss to the Cavs.
Im trying really hard not to go off on Chris Paul. This dude is an absolute disaster this year. He may not even be the 5th best player on this team.
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GARDENHEADSupporter"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:
Enjoy it. I have no excuses. We've lost to so many scrubs this season that I've become numb to it. This may be worse than the loss to the Cavs.
Im trying really hard not to go off on Chris Paul. This dude is an absolute disaster this year. He may not even be the 5th best player on this team.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/chris-paul-2609/
Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin
Vertical LimitForum VeteranI see no reason for the Pelicans to trade AD till next season. They got until jan 2020 to get the best possible deal available. So just sit back and watch Rich Paul spread rumors till then.
GARDENHEADSupporter"Vertical Limit wrote:
I see no reason for the Pelicans to trade AD till next season. They got until jan 2020 to get the best possible deal available. So just sit back and watch Rich Paul spread rumors till then.
Yup.
AD is under contract for this year AND next year. Even if he says he wants to go to the Lakers, we can still trade him anywhere. Look at what happened with Kawhi and Paul George. Everyone thought they wanted to go to the Lakers and they were traded to two very not LA markets.
Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin
Boik14Supporter"GARDENHEAD wrote:
Yup.
AD is under contract for this year AND next year. Even if he says he wants to go to the Lakers, we can still trade him anywhere. Look at what happened with Kawhi and Paul George. Everyone thought they wanted to go to the Lakers and they were traded to two very not LA markets.
Kawhi may still end up in LA....but imo itll be with the clippers. At least thats been the rumor.
Boik14SupporterDamn, Pels likely wont be getting Lonzo Ball in an AD deal: https://t.co/BvchLF3UZf
Hed prefer to be a Bull or Knick if hes dealt. Bulls can have him. Cant deal with his big mouthed father. Dudes a clown.
GARDENHEADSupporter"Boik14 wrote:
Damn, Pels likely wont be getting Lonzo Ball in an AD deal: https://t.co/BvchLF3UZf
Hed prefer to be a Bull or Knick if hes dealt. Bulls can have him. Cant deal with his big mouthed father. Dudes a clown.
Don’t want him. He has no leverage anyway. If they trade him to NOLA he’s gotta show up or not get paid. He’s still on his rookie contract. He’s got no weight to throw around.
Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin
Vertical LimitForum Veteran"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:
Enjoy it. I have no excuses. We've lost to so many scrubs this season that I've become numb to it. This may be worse than the loss to the Cavs.
Im trying really hard not to go off on Chris Paul. This dude is an absolute disaster this year. He may not even be the 5th best player on this team.
He will get his groove back but i dont think its realistic to expect the same guy from last year.
Anyways, stay strong Pelicans organization... dont give in to the Lakers unless you rob them off all their young pieces and picks.
GalantForum Veteran
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
Vertical LimitForum VeteranPorzingis is available. Knicks want all the offers.
BevoPhinForum VeteranWow. That happened fast as hell with Porzingis. Mavs are gonna be must watch basketball.
Boik14SupporterWhat the fucking fuck?!?!?! FML
We better be signing KD, Kyrie and adding AD....
New York has agreed with Dallas on trade that includes Kristaps Porzingis, Courtney Lee, Tim Hardaway Jr., for Wesley Matthews, Dennis Smith Jr. and DeAndre Jordan, league sources tell ESPN. Players and agents are being notified of particulars. Deal may include more draft assets.
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GalantForum Veteran
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
GalantForum VeteranInsane!
The unicorn and Doncic, that's potentially a very good way to start something.
Meanwhile, the Knicks...
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
GalantForum VeteranI've occasionally pondered the idea that if an owner is consistently bad over a decent period it should be possible for the league to require that they sell the franchise. It's situations like these that lead me there.
I don't have tons of love for Knicks fans though. They heavily booed the Porzingis pick. Seems like such a caustic fan base.
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
GalantForum Veteran
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
GARDENHEADSupporterIf misery loves company, me and Boik are besties!
Why would Kristaps wanna leave NYC? Why would the Knicks accept such a crap deal?
Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin
GalantForum Veteran
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
GalantForum Veteran"GARDENHEAD wrote:
If misery loves company, me and Boik are besties!
Why would Kristaps wanna leave NYC? Why would the Knicks accept such a crap deal?
Just in case these aren't rhetorical....
1 - Because it's the Knicks. Arguably the 2nd worst franchise in the NBA (after Phoenix).
(He'd actually like to have a career where he doesn't grow into an old man waiting for what will never arrive.)
2 - See 1.
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
BevoPhinForum Veteran2 of the main posters in this thread just had their favorite/best players force a trade. All we need now is the report on Harden wanting out.
GalantForum Veteran
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
Vertical LimitForum VeteranIm sure theyll figure out, but i have trouble figuring out how theyll mesh. We will see very soon. I think a motivated THJr is definitely the major bonus here.
Boik14Supporter"Galant wrote:Insane!
The unicorn and Doncic, that's potentially a very good way to start something.
Meanwhile, the Knicks...
Doncic and KP will be the new Nash and Dirk. Ill be rooting for them....
"Galant wrote:I've occasionally pondered the idea that if an owner is consistently bad over a decent period it should be possible for the league to require that they sell the franchise. It's situations like these that lead me there.
I don't have tons of love for Knicks fans though. They heavily booed the Porzingis pick. Seems like such a caustic fan base.
Please, if an owner is as pathetically bad as Dolan, they shouldnt be forced to sell, they should be shot. And have to refund paying fans.
"GARDENHEAD wrote:If misery loves company, me and Boik are besties!
Why would Kristaps wanna leave NYC? Why would the Knicks accept such a crap deal?
Cause Knicks. :(
"Galant wrote:
So the guy who couldnt wait to give TH Jr 72m is who im supposed to trust to get KD here? Mills is a roach...hes been around for 20 years and we cant get rid of this tool. Hes worse then Isiah...isiah traded half the world trying to find a star. This guy takes the first offer he gets in return for one. Seriously, Mills sucks.