***The Official 2018-19 NBA Thread***

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GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 05:05 PM

"Boik14 wrote:

Also knicks rejected hawks offer of 8 and 10 for 3. Hawks still looking at trade up with Pelicans at 4, supposedly offering same package.


No way I'd trade #4 for #8 and #10. This isn't the NFL. I don't want to draft three guys in the first round. We also have 2 second round picks. That's 5 rookies? No thanks.

I'd like to package #4 + Ingram for a guy like Myles Turner but I doubt that will happen. Or #4 + Ingram and Ball for Beal. But that won't happen either. Apparently, Alvin Gentry loves Lonzo.

If we end up picking (and keeping) #4, I really don't know who we should pick, but we should definitely take the best guy available, regardless of position.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

Serpico JonesSerpico Jonesforum_veteran
Jun 18, 2019, 05:18 PM

There’s a growing belief that Hassan Whiteside will ask for a trade when he officially opts in according to Tim Reynolds.

BevoPhinBevoPhinforum_veteran
Jun 18, 2019, 05:21 PM

"ckparrothead wrote:

I'm dying for this draft to get underway, lol.

How confident are you that BC is gone by 13? Would you give anything up for him once picks 8-10 roll around?

"Serpico Jones wrote:

There’s a growing belief that Hassan Whiteside will ask for a trade when he officially opts in according to Tim Reynolds.

If he wants out as bad as we want him out, he won’t opt in.

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 05:22 PM

"Serpico Jones wrote:

There’s a growing belief that Hassan Whiteside will ask for a trade when he officially opts in according to Tim Reynolds.

That's funny. No one wants to pay ANY plodding big man $27 million in today's NBA.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

BevoPhinBevoPhinforum_veteran
Jun 18, 2019, 05:23 PM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

No way I'd trade #4 for #8 and #10. This isn't the NFL. I don't want to draft three guys in the first round. We also have 2 second round picks. That's 5 rookies? No thanks.

I'd like to package #4 + Ingram for a guy like Myles Turner but I doubt that will happen. Or #4 + Ingram and Ball for Beal. But that won't happen either. Apparently, Alvin Gentry loves Lonzo.

If we end up picking (and keeping) #4, I really don't know who we should pick, but we should definitely take the best guy available, regardless of position.

I’d love to see you guys somehow get to 2 and snag RJ or Ja. Y’all would be much watch basketball if Zion doesn’t make y’all that already.

Serpico JonesSerpico Jonesforum_veteran
Jun 18, 2019, 05:25 PM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

That's funny. No one wants to pay ANY plodding big man $27 million in today's NBA.

It’s just a one year deal though.

sports24/7sports24/7subscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 05:45 PM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

That's funny. No one wants to pay ANY plodding big man $27 million in today's NBA.

I think the value is him being an expiring contract. You can trade a lot of long term cap commitments for cap space next summer. I still don't know that I think it's likely that they find a trade partner, but if he goes, it would probably be mostly because he's an expiring contract. That being said, there are some teams that might have some interest in trying him out for a year. There are some teams he'd fit well with.

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GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 05:47 PM

"BevoPhin wrote:

I’d love to see you guys somehow get to 2 and snag RJ or Ja. Y’all would be much watch basketball if Zion doesn’t make y’all that already.

Thanks. I trust David Griffin. I don’t think I’ve trusted my favorite team’s personnel chief since Jimmy Johnson.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 05:56 PM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

That's funny. No one wants to pay ANY plodding big man $27 million in today's NBA.

Actually if the knicks strike out in FA, I would take that contract for a year if i got an unprotected pick with it.

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 06:01 PM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

No way I'd trade #4 for #8 and #10. This isn't the NFL. I don't want to draft three guys in the first round. We also have 2 second round picks. That's 5 rookies? No thanks.

I'd like to package #4 + Ingram for a guy like Myles Turner but I doubt that will happen. Or #4 + Ingram and Ball for Beal. But that won't happen either. Apparently, Alvin Gentry loves Lonzo.

If we end up picking (and keeping) #4, I really don't know who we should pick, but we should definitely take the best guy available, regardless of position.

At 4 looking at your teams cornerstone players (so to speak) you should go Culver or Hunter....Reddish if you flip Ingram. Assuming Ingram stays that leaves a foundation thats not half bad...
PG Lonzo/Jrue
SG Culver or Hunter
SF Ingram
PF Zion
C ???

Jun 18, 2019, 06:08 PM

Jimmy Butler is starting to get on my nerves. He has been posting all these pictures and clips of him in Houston for about a week straight. You staying, or nah?

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Boik14Boik14subscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 06:16 PM

Jimmy Butler was born in Tomball (Houston Suburb). Wouldnt be surprised if he still has ties to the area or a residence. To be frank, his toughness and competitiveness would serve yall well

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 06:20 PM

"Boik14 wrote:

At 4 looking at your teams cornerstone players (so to speak) you should go Culver or Hunter....Reddish if you flip Ingram. Assuming Ingram stays that leaves a foundation thats not half bad...
PG Lonzo/Jrue
SG Culver or Hunter
SF Ingram
PF Zion
C ???

Jrue is better at the 2. A backcourt of Lonzo and Jrue is easily the best defensive backcourt in the league. Even so, I would not shy away from drafting Culver or Garland at #4. If we draft a guard at #4, he can come along slowly off the bench. If he develops, great. I don't believe in drafting for need in the NBA. There are too many top-5 pick busts.

PG-Lonzo/Rookie/Frank Jackson
SG-Jrue/Josh Hart/Etuan Moore
SF-Ingram/Kenrich Williams
PF- ZION/Christian Wood
C - Okafor and a bunch of stiffs who can rebound and bang down low so ZION can do his thing.

I'm very high on Christian Wood and Kenrich Williams. They balled out down the stretch last year. I like all our young guys and am PSYCHED for this upcoming season.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

Jun 18, 2019, 07:13 PM

"Boik14 wrote:

Jimmy Butler was born in Tomball (Houston Suburb). Wouldnt be surprised if he still has ties to the area or a residence. To be frank, his toughness and competitiveness would serve yall well

Yeah, he's from here. He has never went on a Houston pic/video spree like this before. He is playing with Rockets fans' emotions. He's a free agent and he knows we need him. He posted this a day after Steven A Smith went on TV and said Harden is recruiting Jimmy.

Playing these Instagram games this week with us is getting on my nerves. Don't be out here getting our hopes up.

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Serpico JonesSerpico Jonesforum_veteran
Jun 18, 2019, 07:23 PM

Cavs are shopping Kevin Love according to Brian Windbag.

Jun 18, 2019, 08:04 PM

Celtics insiders are saying it may be a backdoor deal with the Rockets causing him to opt out.

Please don't let the Rockets give this old dude 4 years. Hell, I wouldn't give him 2.

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ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Jun 18, 2019, 08:18 PM

"BevoPhin wrote:

How confident are you that BC is gone by 13? Would you give anything up for him once picks 8-10 roll around?

If he wants out as bad as we want him out, he won’t opt in.

I don’t know enough about trades and assets and stuff to know the answer to that question. The Heat have no 2nd round pick and i don’t know if they even have another 2nd rounder this century from the sound of it. I certainly don’t think you trade like a Justise Winslow, Josh Richardson, or Bam Adebayo just to move up to like 8 or 10. I think you just sit tight and take the pick.

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Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Jun 18, 2019, 08:28 PM

"Serpico Jones wrote:

Cavs are shopping Kevin Love according to Brian Windbag.

Yea theyre not getting anything for him till he becomes an expiring..

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Jun 18, 2019, 08:29 PM

Al Horford is insane to pass up 30 million..

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Jun 18, 2019, 11:16 PM

So the Lakers didn’t even know the salary cap and had the trade busted up for AD? Lol really??

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GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 11:25 PM

That’s

"ckparrothead wrote:

So the Lakers didn’t even know the salary cap and had the trade busted up for AD? Lol really??

That’s what we’ve (people paying great attention to the details of this story since Saturday) been saying all this time. Pelicans Twitter has been squaking about this for a few days now.

Griffin bet on the incompetence of the Lakers. It is in our best interest to sabotage them on details Pelinka is ignorant of!!!! The ultimate revenge!

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Jun 18, 2019, 11:32 PM

Hahahahaha Lakers/Lebron/Klutch. AD is a sucker. They want him to forfeit $4 million because PELINKA DOESNT UNDERSTAND THE SALARY CAP!!!!

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Jun 19, 2019, 12:03 AM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Al Horford is insane to pass up 30 million..

No hes not. Hes in his age 33 season. Hes more likely to get a 4 year deal taking him through his age 37 season then a 4 year deal next year taking him through age 38. If he gets a 4 year deal worth a 100m i think thats a better contract then he would have gotten next year. And at that point sure hed lose 5m next year but hed guarantee himself an additional 70m.

BevoPhinBevoPhinforum_veteran
Jun 19, 2019, 02:42 AM

"Boik14 wrote:

No hes not. Hes in his age 33 season. Hes more likely to get a 4 year deal taking him through his age 37 season then a 4 year deal next year taking him through age 38. If he gets a 4 year deal worth a 100m i think thats a better contract then he would have gotten next year. And at that point sure hed lose 5m next year but hed guarantee himself an additional 70m.

Why are you talking like a Canadian lol

He’s in his age 33 season eh, and if he doesn’t secure a 4 year deal, he may just return to university.

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Jun 19, 2019, 05:59 AM

"Boik14 wrote:

No hes not. Hes in his age 33 season. Hes more likely to get a 4 year deal taking him through his age 37 season then a 4 year deal next year taking him through age 38. If he gets a 4 year deal worth a 100m i think thats a better contract then he would have gotten next year. And at that point sure hed lose 5m next year but hed guarantee himself an additional 70m.

Who the hell is crazy enough to give him 4 years 100 million... i think hes overestimating his market just like David West did at one point..

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