The Official Blow for Barkley/Give a Handy for Landry/Whiffin for Griffin Megathread

Gee, I thought our franchise was going to be set back a decade if we didn't get Luck????

You mean...there are others??? The fate of the Dolphins doesn't rest in the hands on one college kid??? :sidelol:

Setting up for another disappointment.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Gee, I thought our franchise was going to be set back a decade if we didn't get Luck????

You mean...there are others??? The fate of the Dolphins doesn't rest in the hands on one college kid??? :sidelol:

Luck was just the best out of an excellent crop, and you always want the best.

You know these chants don't have to be homoerotic...Give a handy for Landry?

This is just a taste of Matt Barkley. Only 4 of his games, pocket throws of intermediate depth (23 to 39 yards).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_djxg-xSg0Q

"Frumundah Finnatic wrote:

Luck was just the best out of an excellent crop, and you always want the best.

So using your logic we should try for the worst record every year do we can get the best right? I mean you Always want the best.

I'd really like to see a little more of Tannehill I think he'll be our guy much lower than we're expecting.

Attitude and performance are a reflection of leadership and that leadership MUST come from the top. I agree that you want the best, but the best that you, me and anyone should want and vest all of our interest in is the head coach of the team.

A great head coach can make average players good and good players great. Alex Smith is having a Pro Bowl year in San Francisco and he owes it all to the tutilege he's received from new head coach Jim Harbaugh.

Whether or not Luck, Jones, Barkley, Weeden, etc have successful careers in the NFL will all depend on who their coach(es) is(are).

Henne will never be more than an average QB, even though he possessed all the gifts to be a phenominal QB. This is due to the poor coaching he received upon being drafted by Miami and unfortuantely, he''s probably too set in his ways now to be re-taught. Not every QB can be a Vinny Testaverde and shine under the right coach after being on the league for so long under poor coaching.

If any of these kids are drafted by a team with mediocre to average coaching, they'll fall by the weyside. If they are drafted by a team with coaches that know how to groom and mentor QB's, such as San Diego (Phillip Rivers) or Green Bay (Aaron Rodgers), regardless if his name is Weeden or Barkley, they'll be sucesses. If they go to teams that fail in QB development such as Oakland (Russell and a SLEW of names) or Cleveland (Quinn), regardless if his name is Luck or Jones, they'll fail miserably.

You want the best? So do I. But the best has to start at the head coaching postion. If that postion is locked in, EVERYTHING else falls into place.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Attitude and performance are a reflection of leadership and that leadership MUST come from the top. I agree that you want the best, but the best that you, me and anyone should want and vest all of our interest in is the head coach of the team.

A great head coach can make average players good and good players great. Alex Smith is having a Pro Bowl year in San Francisco and he owes it all to the tutilege he's received from new head coach Jim Harbaugh.

Whether or not Luck, Jones, Barkley, Weeden, etc have successful careers in the NFL will all depend on who their coach(es) is(are).

Henne will never be more than an average QB, even though he possessed all the gifts to be a phenominal QB. This is due to the poor coaching he received upon being drafted by Miami and unfortuantely, he''s probably too set in his ways now to be re-taught. Not every QB can be a Vinny Testaverde and shine under the right coach after being on the league for so long under poor coaching.

If any of these kids are drafted by a team with mediocre to average coaching, they'll fall by the weyside. If they are drafted by a team with coaches that know how to groom and mentor QB's, such as San Diego (Phillip Rivers) or Green Bay (Aaron Rodgers), regardless if his name is Weeden or Barkley, they'll be sucesses. If they go to teams that fail in QB development such as Oakland (Russell and a SLEW of names) or Cleveland (Quinn), regardless if his name is Luck or Jones, they'll fail miserably.

You want the best? So do I. But the best has to start at the head coaching postion. If that postion is locked in, EVERYTHING else falls into place.

So... Remember the Titans WAS right!

I'll take Weeden or Tannehill, please. I'll take Jones as a third option. I want nothing to do with Matt Barkley.

We will, of course, select Barkley.

"Vendigo wrote:

I'll take Weeden or Tannehill, please. I'll take Jones as a third option. I want nothing to do with Matt Barkley.

We will, of course, select Barkley.

Reach Around for Ryan?

"Vendigo wrote:

We will, of course, select Kalil.

Fixed.

"Desides wrote:

Fixed.

I'd actually prefer Kalil over Barkley. Yep, I really don't like poor Matt as an NFL QB.

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

So... Remember the Titans WAS right!

:confused2:

I just know what my ledership style was when I was in the Army. I demanded perfection. I settled for nothing less. I motivated my soldiers to strive for more. When they did welll I praised them...when they screwed up, I was in their a$$e$ until they got it right and dared them to screw up again.

I set the task, condictions and standards and never settled for less.

That's what's been lacking on our team. "Yea, these guys played so hard today. I'm really happy with them, they played their hearts out"

Really?? All those players are going "whew...thank God he's not going to run suicides on us until we puke"

Attitude and performance.....it ALWAYS starts at the top.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Gee, I thought our franchise was going to be set back a decade if we didn't get Luck????

You mean...there are others??? The fate of the Dolphins doesn't rest in the hands on one college kid??? :sidelol:

It Will not one of these other QB's are a sure fire Franchise QB in the NFL. Luck is being mentioned as Peyton Manning because he's already considered by EVERYONE except Phil Simms to be the bread and butter. All the other QB's have questions marks and the money they will demand might not be worth it for a team to rebuild.

Lets just trade out of the pick and grab a Mid level #1 A 2 and a 3rd and build around a free agent QB were going to have to get.

"Vendigo wrote:

I'll take Weeden or Tannehill, please. I'll take Jones as a third option. I want nothing to do with Matt Barkley.

We will, of course, select Barkley.

If we're lucky we will.

"ckparrothead wrote:

If we're lucky we will.

Barkley is a gamer..

If we're Lucky Peyton Manning plays the remainder of the year and wins the Colts 7 games.

"FreeStyle wrote:

Barkley is a gamer..

And a damn talented thrower.

"Frumundah Finnatic wrote:

If we're Lucky Peyton Manning plays the remainder of the year and wins the Colts 7 games.

I think you have miracle and luck confused. Peyton isn't playing this year. Maybe never again.

"ckparrothead wrote:

If we're lucky we will

We obviously disagree on Matt Barkley by a mile then. But hey, it's all fun and games until someone loses a draft pick ...

"Vendigo wrote:

I'd actually prefer Kalil over Barkley. Yep, I really don't like poor Matt as an NFL QB.

Great, so we can continue building and rebuilding an offensive line to protect someone not worth protecting!

Sorry, I had to vent that sarcasm somehow.

I can easily see Barkley out of range and even Landry Jones taken so at that point Tannehill and Weeden become possibilities. I see Tannehill being the guy since he's a little bit more of a traditional offense QB. I like him, he needs to read the field faster and progress as a quarterback but that comes with time and work at QB. I can see Miami trading down, grabbing him, and grabbing Peyton Manning if he's let go.

"Desides wrote:

Sorry, I had to vent that sarcasm somehow.

No worries. I want a QB badly, too. I just don't think Matt Barkley is first round material, let alone franchise material. I know I'm in a minority of one here, so the crucification squad will likely assault me any minute now.