I'll play :)

1) For the life of me, i cannot fathom that he ran hurdles in college. Just does not compute.

2) I think he should be forced to carry a football everywhere he goes, as it seems to severely impact his balance as soon as he gets it his hands.

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For the record, I like Hartline and hope he starts to shine again soon.

 

You have to respect what Hartline has been able to do in his career as a seemingly unknown college wide receiver. I remember when miami made that pick and it was definitely a "are you serious moment". He's exceeded all expectations. I can't help but wonder what this offense could do with a physical, red zone threat opposite Wallace.

 

I think the hurdling background thing makes sense - he has great technique in what he does. The problem with Hartline is that he doesn't have enough strength.

Ultimately, he is overpaid at his current compensation. Him, Gibson, and Wallace are all candidates to be replaced if the Dolphins can find the right guys.

 

I think Gibson is certainly on his way out, at least at his current position.

 

Hartline's route running yesterday had him open on almost every route vs Fuller in the first half. My buddy, a Bears fan here in Chicago, was watching that matchup until Fuller left with a hip pointer. Brian was able to create good separation on most of his routes vs Fuller. Looked good.

 

I disagree.

He went to Ohio State. He was a starter in the National Championship game versus LSU. He was well known and our picking him wasn't deemed a crazy reach.

 

I disagree. When he was drafted most people were surprised Miami would use a 4th round pick on a wide receiver with little college production.

 

I think he is not truly appreciated by Dolphins fans. He's a good player despite his faults. I do think this is his last year in Miami though.

 

You've got an overlap of two equally objectionable strains of thought- One where people with limited football knowledge are excited to make some sort of basic personnel assessment(Brian Hartline falls down a lot), and one where people who aren't funny are excited to be in a position to run a well-worn meme into the ground(Brian Hartline falls down a lot lol). It's a perfect storm of bad posting, and it almost makes me long for Ricky Williams weed jokes.

 

my only negative about him is that he is a little over paid.

 

Ricky smoked weed? :shifty:

 

I don't remember it that way. But I could be wrong. Confucious? What you say? You're the draft expert.

 

I think he's a good piece in a 5 man unit..

 

He's being mis-utilized badly this year. We've for some reason eliminated a bunch of the routes he runs well(and Tannehill throws well), and he's not being targeted even when he gets open.

Hell, the "5 man unit" thing has been wildly inefficient and a poor use of resources. Basically everyone on the roster besides Mike Wallace and Jarvis Landry are being mismanaged. Hell, you could throw in Wallace is as well since they've decided to give up on trying to fix deep passing issues and attempt near a league low amount. Charles Clay probably didn't "just" get healthy this week either.

Meanwhile you're putting Dion Sims on the field roughly 50% of offensive snaps, whom Bill Lazor seems to love but Philbin and co. seem to hate.

 

I hate how Hartline catches everything that is thrown to him, who does he think he is?

 

I think Hartline is a ok wr but he sure falls down a lot, he reminds me , of , well , me I am always falling down even when I'M asleep in bed .

I was slow to warm up to him but I don't know just how good he is. on a scale of 1 -10 1= terrible and 10 = hall of fame I would give Hartline a 6

 

Isn't his YAC about 6'2"?

 

Well, at the time you had to have concerns about his strength and ability to beat the press given his ultra lean frame. He did show good hands and an ability run routes, but he was not able to show what he could do at Ohio State for a couple of reasons IIRC. One was due to an injury (spleen or something) and also because he played in a run first offense. At the time you had to think that the kid from USC we took a round earlier would be the guy to be a fulltime player while Hartline would likely either be a special teamer or fade out.

At least that was mine. You just had to wonder if Hartline had enough to make it at the next level and it turns out he does. Albeit his lack of strength and his need for a little more speed do show up during games.

 

Total Buckeye homer here and I've said this before; I think he might be afraid of contact. He runs really good routes, has really good hands, and plays w/ some fire. But, when he catches the ball inside and turns up the field he goes down pretty easily. I've watched him do it several times and it seems like he is diving forward but always going down and I think he does this to avoid contact. Haven't had as much opportunity to observe this during this season, but that's my observation as much as it pains me.

 

If you watched Ohio State games (obviously I have) you saw a very solid NFL prospect in BH, it was just before the "white WR" boom but he played very very well at OSU.

 

He wasn't on the amateur's radar, but the NFL teams knew about him. I recall Peter King saying before the draft that he could be a surprise 2nd rounder based on things his inside sources had told him.

 

Too good for Dez, too good for Benjamin, we're just too good at WRs to get a beast, we have Hartline!

 

IMHO, the frustrating part about BH is, he does a lot of little things very well, and he HAS to, 'cuz if he didn't, he'd never see the field. As long as he does those things well, he'll have a role in the NFL...maybe not a big one, but a (usually) reliable one.

He's never gonna set any TD marks...never going to know what the abbreviation YAC means...but he's generally reliable as long as he does everything he does perfectly. He's a come-back bail-out receiver...that's about it.

 

This is as good of an explanation as I've seen offered. What really bothers me is the drops. It has become a trend, and it is a very disturbing one.

I liked Hartline as a reliable target in 2012 and 2013, but starting with that awful Buffalo game at the end of last season, he has not been reliable catching the ball at all.

 

Hartline can't be happy with the way he's playing after the contract. My wife watching with me said he's awful, and I told her don't you remember the circus sideline catches he always was reliable for making. She couldn't remember.

 

Matthews > Hartline

 

I blame the string of 3 and outs to start the game yesterday partly on him (obviously the Oline troubles were a major contributing factor). I think a demotion is in order.

 

Hartline has been the most overrated player on this roster. Big deal he had a couple 1000 yard seasons. He doesn't make plays. He falls down. Scared of contact. Doesn't make catches in the clutch. Often disappears. How many TD catches does he average a year? 1? 2? Been saying for a while now that on most teams he'd never crack the starting lineup. I'd say his stats were padded due to WR being depleted of talent the past few seasons. In other words, sure he had some ok stats but there wasn't anyone else to throw to before. Hell Bess looked good here too and now he's out of the league(even if he didn't have a breakdown, he was going to get cut from Cleveland), along with the other scrubs we had on depth chart at WR.

 

Dudes suckin.

 

He'll score 6 touchdowns in the next four games. Heard it here first........ :escape2:

 

its pretty silly for a staff to run him on inside slants, its been obvious he doesn't have the physicality to fight for position, secure the football, or run after the catch..

hes a fourth wide receiver..thats fine.

 

At this point, a huge game for Hartline would be 5 catches, around 70 yards and a TD.

 

Up until this season, Hartline has consistently been our best receiver....despite being slow, white and a genuinely good person off the field. Bashing Hartline is just plain ridiculous....he's had a few bad games after 50+ good ones and dozens of clutch catches that were thrown off target. He had 3 drops yesterday and had a defender all over him on two of those plays, so I think it's a little early for this thread. Like a year too early.

Why don't we start a "Bash Dan Marino and Jason Taylor" thread too while we're at it; they both had a few bad games as well.

 

Honestly, id like to see ONE of our recievers have a monster game one of these days. You know, the kind that happens on other teams where you see the stat line and go "Holy Sh**!!". Cant remember the last time we had one of those. Chambers at Dallas on TG? Actually, Hartline during RT's rookie year had one.