Depends on how realistic Jake is about how his performance deserves to be paid.

I'd rather not create a hole, but certainly he can't get top three LT money right now. More like 5th to 10th best.

 

He's been getting abused today. Hopefully he picks his game up.

 

I think individuals who want the Dolphins to sign him to a new long term contract just aren't watching how he has played in recent years. Right now he is no better than an average LT in the NFL. He isn't explosive off the ball in the running game and he is beat on two or three passing plays in every game. If he agrees to sign for a contract which would put him in the middle of the range for LT's in the NFL, fine, sign him. If he is looking to be paid as one of the top LT's in the NFL, he needs to go somewhere else for that type money.

 

What about the mental lapse that almost got Tannehill killed ?

 

He's not playing smart, fast or overpowering.

 

We might want to put the money into making the secondary better.

They need a lot of help this offseason.

 

Jake has better be willing to settle for a modest new contract, or you let him walk. He should be dominating this season to earn that new contract -and he has been on a doward spiral.

 

What are you talking about? He was a better pick than Matt Ryan would have been...

I wouldn't dump him but this season is giving the Dolphins some serious leverage in offering him a more average contract.

 

He has eight games to show he's worth that big contract or he can walk, he has been terrible this season.

 

Notice how the Matt Ryan vs. Jake Long threads have basically died this year.

 

Might have to try Martin out at LT and draft a solid RT in this draft. If Martin is better on the left than the right then we can manage with him. It'd free up $10 million or so in expected expenditure not resigning Long and could net us a solid draft pick with Long gone eh?

 

Long if we can get a very favorable contract then sure. I just hope it's injuries and he'll make a return to form next year (gotta hope). But Sean Smith has to go. Let him go to FA and sign a better CB off FA instead.

 

He's had legitimately one bad game this year- This one. It's about his second of his career where he wasn't hurt.

There's an argument that you should franchise him rather than sign him to a long-term contract to make sure a "pretty good" rather than elite year isn't a fluke, but this is pretty silly.

If you think he's been bad, or even average overall this year, you don't know what you are talking about, pretty much end of story.

 

What are you guys talking about? Didn't you see him haul in that pass by Tannehill? Has to be one of the league leaders in receiving yards!

 

Matt Ryan is 7-0

Jake Long has gotten his QB killed at least twice today.

 

Yup I'll take a franchise and give him one more year. Sean Smith has to go though. Thank god corners tend to make it to FA. Just sucks that we will have to overpay large to get one to replace Smith.

 

Doesn't Long currently make as much as the Patriots entire starting offensive line? Sorry, but he's got to go. You shouldn't pay that much for an OL who isn't the single best one in the NFL.

 

Jake isnt the only offensive tackle havinng a bad year. Seattles Russell Okung has gotten the mostpenalties of any ot in the league .

I tried to voice my displeasure with taking any offensive lineman in rd 1 because they dont touch the ball. this team seems to be the dumbest when it comes to draft picks . we always seem to screw ouselves with skill players . we could have had Patrick Willis the linebacker but noooooo we got Ginn .

this team needs to get serious about aquiring talent if we want to do well.

 

I don't think there is any way to know who that was on. Long pointed out the defender to Thomas after the play, so Thomas probably was supposed to take the outside defender and Long the inside.

 

I'm not a real big Sean Smith guy but I don't see how you can justify letting him walk this year. He's played well too.

 

I honestly don't believe that even the best LT in the history of the game deserves the salary Jake will likely command. It's just not an impact position anymore IMO with the way defenses and offenses approach the game.

 

It was on Long or whoever called the protection. There was absolutely no need to double inside and leave Freeney 1-1 with DT.

 

He's a FA anyways and will cost some dough. Why not upgrade in the FA market instead? Corners make it to the market all the time....got to be a reasonable chance to upgrade there.

 

Call it on Sherman then.

There was a couple other times they ran that same bit where they had DT pick up the outside rusher. Those ones at least worked though.

 

I doubt Sherman called the protection. It was most likely Tannehill or even Pouncey. Sure every play has a blocking scheme but it's almost ALWAYS changed at the line based upon the defensive look.

 

Letting Sean Smith, as bad as he can be at times, wood be a mistake. We don't need to create more holes. Sean Smith is a good corner, he is just not a shut down corner.

I'd franchise Long as well. Again, don't create holes.

Use our cap space and draft picks to get a pair of corners, move Marshall to safety (Clemons is rubbish), pass rushers, a guard, a receiver and a tight end (depending on Egnew).

 

Leaving DT on the DE on that play was suicide. Jake Long STILL struggles consistently on speed rushers. This is nothing new.

 

Unless you have a much better viable left tackle than Long has been with his ups and downs you have to sign him.. We have to many other holes to fill this offseason.

 

What hole? I'm advocating an upgrade in free agency. SS is a free agent...if there's enough viable corners that make it to FA...then go for it. Can always sign him with a few days to go if there's a run on letting corners not get to market.

 

Because this team wont get one...

 

What I have noticed is that Ryan has gotten better every year he has been in the NFL. Just the opposite of how Jake Long has played during that same period.

 

Jake Long's feet and hips are a serious liability. I'm still confused why people aren't seeing this.

 

Once upon a time people were suggesting that Matt Ryan wasn't that much better than Chad Henne... Anyway, hopefully Tannehill will bail us out for that terrible mistake of a number one draft pick. Jake's regression is very unfortunate.

 

Tanny is taking 4 monster shots a game and in the 2 min drill today he finally showed effects of it getting happy feet for the 1st time Oline needs to step it up

 

From what I have seen from Long, he has created his own hole. He is no longer a dominant blocker in the running game and he is merely an average pass blocker. To franchise him would be a total waste. He just isn't worth the type of money it would take to franchise him for next year. That money could be used on other positions of need and they could move Martin to LT, his position in college, and draft or sign a free agent RT for next year.

 

That's somewhere between Sherman, Tannehill, and Pouncey. Long I don't believe is going to be calling many protections.

Even then, you've got to block what the play is even if it's a bad result. It's perfectly possible for a reasonably called play to have that result.

 

Jake Long has not been an average pass blocker this year. He's been much better than average, and I think you've lost sight of what realistic tackle play looks like after these years with Long playing as arguably the best in the league.

And I don't think we're sure Jonathan Martin is a competent RT right now, much less a replacement for Jake Long.