The pats keep Fin the Fins!

We f ourselves. On a side note...the major take away from these two games is just a reminder of how dog shit nfl officiating is. Billions of dollars and old men deciding the fates of games is making this product almost unwatchable for me. Something has to change to get these calls right and to check these guys in real time if they mess up. The league “rules” are a complete joke.

Since a lot of people here like to blow the Pats and their way of doing business. Imagine Minkah Fitzpatrick going to Belichik at the end of the season demand to know what position he is going to be penciled into next season.

I'm so tired of the 'Brady comes full circle by beating the Rams to end his career 'story line already. I'm not even going to watch the game live this year. I've got lots of entertainment options and football keeps ticking down the list when I have to put up with hearing about the Pats again for the next two weeks.

Also, seeing the Saints get robbed on a blatant DOUBLE penalty (PI and helmet to helmet) just kills my desire to watch the games.

"Deus ex dolphin wrote:

I'm so tired of the 'Brady comes full circle by beating the Rams to end his career 'story line already. I'm not even going to watch the game live this year. I've got lots of entertainment options and football keeps ticking down the list when I have to put up with hearing about the Pats again for the next two weeks.

Also, seeing the Saints get robbed on a blatant DOUBLE penalty (PI and helmet to helmet) just kills my desire to watch the games.

Or the phantom roughing the passer penalty that kept the Pats drive alive.

"danmarino wrote:

Or the phantom roughing the passer penalty that kept the Pats drive alive.

Right but to be fair the pats outplayed Kansas City at Kansas City! They should have been up 21 in the first half if Brady didn’t get picked.

Just hope we got the right coach

"Dorfdad wrote:

Right but to be fair the pats outplayed Kansas City at Kansas City! They should have been up 21 in the first half if Brady didn’t get picked.

Just hope we got the right coach

ummm...if Brady threw a pick he played badly.

The Pats ran the ball well. The Chiefs defense would bend but didn't break. The phantom RTP call won that game.

"Deus ex dolphin wrote:

I'm so tired of the 'Brady comes full circle by beating the Rams to end his career 'story line already. I'm not even going to watch the game live this year. I've got lots of entertainment options and football keeps ticking down the list when I have to put up with hearing about the Pats again for the next two weeks.

Also, seeing the Saints get robbed on a blatant DOUBLE penalty (PI and helmet to helmet) just kills my desire to watch the games.

No. The narrative is the Rams win to make things right and end the Patriots nightmare they started to begin with. Bookend the Patriot dynasty.

NE was NE. They deserved the win. The real "ref" problem was with the Rams game! The most blatant and obvious non-called PI I can remember in an important situation that would have won the game for the Saints but no.. the refs had to give it to the Rams. I was going to root against the Rams in the SB because of that but I can't since they're facing the Pats.

Anyway, for those who didn't see the non-called PI here it is (if called it basically ends the game):

That call was utter shit. Cost The saint the Super Bowl more than likely. I get it was late in the game but he was like 3 seconds early in that hit which prevented the catch

Lots of bad calls/decision in the last few minutes of the NO/LA game and not just by the officials. Thought McVay had blown it by not going for the TD on the 4th & 6 inches and settling for the FG. There was then a bad throw by Brees to Ginn that should really have been picked off by the DB (or at least knocked incomplete), which instead was caught by Ginn for the long gain. Thought Payton then called 2 bad plays on 1st & 3rd down which stopped the clock, particularly as LA only had 2 TO's, which essentially would have left LA with no time on the clock.
The non-PI call was terrible but I actually thought the DB had a chance of a pick 6 (on another bad thrown by Brees) if he hadn't just decided to focus in on the WR.

"danmarino wrote:

Or the phantom roughing the passer penalty that kept the Pats drive alive.

"Galant wrote:

please send Tom Brady your prayers after this violent roughing the passer penalty pic.twitter.com/5Zt5S0TKo9

— Grant Goldberg (@GrantGoldberg) January 21, 2019

I didn’t see it isolated before, but even for 2019 that’s a bad call.

The officials made bad calls on both games. Nothing new, it happens all of the time. I just wish teams could challenge penalties and not just plays.

Dont forget mentioning the edleman muffed punt. The ruling was a fumble and somehow they found conclusive evidence to overturn it which was impossible. We knew who the refs wanted to win, even that loser Gene Steratore doing commentating for CBS was rooting for the pats..

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Dont forget mentioning the edleman muffed punt. The ruling was a fumble and somehow they found conclusive evidence to overturn it which was impossible. We knew who the refs wanted to win, even that loser Gene Steratore doing commentating for CBS was rooting for the pats..

I can't stand the Patriots. I utterly despise them but in all fairness, it was not a muffed punt. Edleman never touched the ball. They showed just about every angle there was and he never touched the ball. That overturn was the right call however, the roughing the passer call against Brady?

Jesus, God, Mary and Joseph...THAT'S what I'm getting at in being able to challenge penalties. I get the whole wanting to protect the QB when he's in a defenseless position in the pocket but the NFL needs to adapt the stringent penalty calls they are now pursuing and adopt the NCAA's procedure on targeting penalties. Review RTP calls to determine whether or not it truly was a penalty.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

I can't stand the Patriots. I utterly despise them but in all fairness, it was not a muffed punt. Edleman never touched the ball. They showed just about every angle there was and he never touched the ball. That overturn was the right call however, the roughing the passer call against Brady?

Jesus, God, Mary and Joseph...THAT'S what I'm getting at in being able to challenge penalties. I get the whole wanting to protect the QB when he's in a defenseless position in the pocket but the NFL needs to adapt the stringent penalty calls they are now pursuing and adopt the NCAA's procedure on targeting penalties. Review RTP calls to determine whether or not it truly was a penalty.

I get the whole protecting the qb from violent hits but man they are treating that position like they are babies. No wonder Brady can play at 41!!!

The rules need to be rewritten it’s conpletly unfair for the defense at this point.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Dont forget mentioning the edleman muffed punt. The ruling was a fumble and somehow they found conclusive evidence to overturn it which was impossible. We knew who the refs wanted to win, even that loser Gene Steratore doing commentating for CBS was rooting for the pats..

In fairness, I don't think that ball hit him. I washed it so badly to have touched him, but I really think they got that call right.

"Dorfdad wrote:

I get the whole protecting the qb from violent hits but man they are treating that position like they are babies. No wonder Brady can play at 41!!!

The rules need to be rewritten it’s conpletly unfair for the defense at this point.

Didn't they say that he got his facemask?

"cbrad wrote:

NE was NE. They deserved the win. The real "ref" problem was with the Rams game! The most blatant and obvious non-called PI I can remember in an important situation that would have won the game for the Saints but no.. the refs had to give it to the Rams. I was going to root against the Rams in the SB because of that but I can't since they're facing the Pats.

Anyway, for those who didn't see the non-called PI here it is (if called it basically ends the game):

I agree.

Still doesn't take away the fact that Brady was given a just as bad call. The RTP may not have been as game clenching, but it was close.

BTW, who would have figured that a 77 passer rating. Brady's (should have been worse if not for the stupid off sides penalty during what would have been Brady's 3rd INT) would have beat a 117 passer rating by Mahomes.

It's almost as if the QB isn't the only thing that matters..lol (Not directed at you cbrad)

"Dorfdad wrote:

That call was utter ****. Cost The saint the Super Bowl more than likely. I get it was late in the game but he was like 3 seconds early in that hit which prevented the catch

No more than likely about it. The Saints would have been able to run the clock down to 4 seconds and then kicked a FG. That call, 100% cost the Saints the game.

"Pauly wrote:

I didn’t see it isolated before, but even for 2019 that’s a bad call.

What's worse is a drive or two before this Mahomes got hit in nearly the exact same fashion. I told my wife, "If that were Brady they would have thrown a flag." Sure as shit....

Even my wife was disgusted.

"resnor wrote:

Didn't they say that he got his facemask?

No, they called it roughing the passer. It was 100% a horrible call.

"resnor wrote:

In fairness, I don't think that ball hit him. I washed it so badly to have touched him, but I really think they got that call right.

Yeah, I agree. I do not think he touched it.

However, if that were any other team my bet is they would have said inconclusive evidence and the ruling on the field stands. I'd bet my house on that.

"danmarino wrote:

No, they called it roughing the passer. It was 100% a horrible call.

Yeah, but the only justification for that that I could find was that it looked like he might have grazed his facemask.