Tripp/Lynch/Aikens/Hoskins/Hazel/Larsen 1 on 1 action

Yeah I immediately said "You cant use your hands like that..." on the Hoskins highlight and just threw the play out in my mind. Thanks for the video.....I agree on Tripp and Lynch from that tape.

After watching some Tripp highlights. I didn't see anything that knocked me out of my chair. He is usually where he is supposed to be, whiffs on a lot of 1 on 1 tackles, is a good follow up defender after someone makes a hit. He is no doubt a tough, aggressive football player though, just needs some work IMO.

Thanks for the video.

I agree that the Matt Hazel pick was a good one. He and Tripp were the picks with the most value IMO.

Tripp looks slow as hell in those videos. Severe downer.

Honestly the only one of those videos that make the acquisition questionable (as far as a UDFA can be questionable that is)...is Tripp. I also wasn't particularly impressed watching him during games either. I dunno watching him play looks like...chaos. It seems like his instincts are on a three quarters of a second tape delay and he has to run around like a headless chicken to fix that delay.

Maybe I have to watch him more.

"Fin D wrote:

Honestly the only one of those videos that make the acquisition questionable (as far as a UDFA can be questionable that is)...is Tripp. I also wasn't particularly impressed watching him during games either. I dunno watching him play looks like...chaos. It seems like his instincts are on a three quarters of a second tape delay and he has to run around like a headless chicken to fix that delay.

Maybe I have to watch him more.

Tripp was drafted though.

"Fin D wrote:

Honestly the only one of those videos that make the acquisition questionable (as far as a UDFA can be questionable that is)...is Tripp. I also wasn't particularly impressed watching him during games either. I dunno watching him play looks like...chaos. It seems like his instincts are on a three quarters of a second tape delay and he has to run around like a headless chicken to fix that delay.

Maybe I have to watch him more.

I got that impression from watching Tripp as well but keep hearing how knowledgeable people are very high on him... haven't seen exactly what they see in him yet.

I really like Tyler Larson, he is "my" longshot to make the roster

"padre31 wrote:

I really like Tyler Larson, he is "my" longshot to make the roster

Larsen.

"MrClean wrote:

Larsen.

I get the feeling that at least half of your 52 thousand posts is of you correcting the spelling of a player's name... :shifty:

"Brasfin wrote:

I get the feeling that at least half of your 52 thousand posts is of you correcting the spelling of a player's name... :shifty:

If you like feel free to scroll back through all past threads and count them. :)

Thank you very much for putting that together. Very nice. Larson was the only one that seemed to do much. Pretty disappointing actually.

"Fin D wrote:

Honestly the only one of those videos that make the acquisition questionable (as far as a UDFA can be questionable that is)...is Tripp. I also wasn't particularly impressed watching him during games either. I dunno watching him play looks like...chaos. It seems like his instincts are on a three quarters of a second tape delay and he has to run around like a headless chicken to fix that delay.

Maybe I have to watch him more.

if you go back and watch his videos... look for Brock Coyle (#56) and tell me who has the better instincts. I think it's a case of people getting caught up on the measurables... similar to Beckham vs Landry. Coyle will flash on some clips. Tripp wins on paper when you look at his size/speed #s.

EDIT: just so you can see what I mean :wink2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhGskbrMHW0

Thanks for putting that together !

Lynch was the opposite of expected. Fell down on the one route, but had very good separation on the others. His blocks were either whiffs or blatant holding though.

Hazel looks like he has an NFL ready body on him and has all the tools. Can't wait to see him with the pads on!

Paul, I thought the same thing about Aiken as you did, when I saw other clips. The end game might be to convert him to safety. He has the size and physicality.

"Pennington's Limp Arm wrote:

Thanks for putting that together !

Lynch was the opposite of expected. Fell down on the one route, but had very good separation on the others. His blocks were either whiffs or blatant holding though.

Hazel looks like he has an NFL ready body on him and has all the tools. Can't wait to see him with the pads on!

Paul, I thought the same thing about Aiken as you did, when I saw other clips. The end game might be to convert him to safety. He has the size and physicality.

Yeah, Matt Hazel is quickly becoming my favorite rookie from this class. Him and Gator Hoskins... plus it's hard to get excited about an offensive lineman. :wink2: Even though they are much needed.

"Brasfin wrote:

I get the feeling that at least half of your 52 thousand posts is of you correcting the spelling of a player's name... :shifty:

That's Stitches. Please get to know your posters. :wink2:

And yes, 3/4 of mine are correcting the corrections or some bull**** like that.

Larsen has talent. He did very well in those drills, especially when you consider that those drills tend to favor the defender.

Lynch, also has some tools to work with. He's anxious in some of those drills, causing him to reach more than he should. He ducks his head and off the defender goes. I like how he works his routes though, I think that Egnew's place could be in jeopardy should Lynch show anything in camp.

Aikens is going to end up at safety, imo. Hickey drafted him with this in mind, i would imagine. Aiken gets beat way too often in off coverage, as you see here and in the youtube clips of his games. He's good in press, which we didn't play much of last year. I just don't see a great feel for the cornerback position when he has to use and close any sort of off coverage or cushion. Given the young guys we have at CB, I'd be in favor of a position switch based off the stuff online. He certainly has the size and speed (6'1 4.4) to make for a rangy safety.

Tripp is going to have a steep learning curve because of the level of athlete he's going to start seeing all of a sudden. I love the energy and it looks like his instincts are okay, albeit against weak (slower) competition. But there are things in coverage that just aren't going to fly when he's running with or pursuing NFL players. Too many wrong steps that give up separation, needs to play stronger in space whether it's wrapping up or getting off perimeter blocks, and the main thing is that he lets his momentum get away from him too often...like he tightens himself up and gets off-balance when he's doing anything beside coming downhill. I like the athleticism and energy, but it's going to take a lot of refining to make him a legit linebacker at this level. I wouldn't expect him to do a whole lot this year aside from special teams. But hey, he's a 5th round pick and there is something to work with long-term. Seems like he has the right attitude for it.

"Conuficus wrote:

Larsen has talent. He did very well in those drills, especially when you consider that those drills tend to favor the defender.

Lynch, also has some tools to work with. He's anxious in some of those drills, causing him to reach more than he should. He ducks his head and off the defender goes. I like how he works his routes though, I think that Egnew's place could be in jeopardy should Lynch show anything in camp.

I doubt that Lynch was asked to do that type of 1 on 1 blocking at Georgia. Had him demonstrate something he hasn't done much and probably won't do much.

Bold statements being made about Matt Hazel, but I actually see the same things with him as well. He's a pass catcher and a football player. You can always rely on those guys. Rod Smith 2.0 is a high ceiling in my opinion, I hope you're right.

"OkiePhin wrote:

After watching some Tripp highlights. I didn't see anything that knocked me out of my chair. He is usually where he is supposed to be, whiffs on a lot of 1 on 1 tackles, is a good follow up defender after someone makes a hit. He is no doubt a tough, aggressive football player though, just needs some work IMO.

Thanks for the video.

That's the reason a kid with his size/speed/athleticism went in round 5 (unlike Zach Thomas who was great on the field but had size issues that knocked him down).

It will come down to whether he can be coached up and develop better instincts over time. Hopefully he will. He could be a decent special teams guy early on ... hopefully. But, like many of these guys - they will have to battle to make the team first.

"Paul 13 wrote:

Yeah, Matt Hazel is quickly becoming my favorite rookie from this class. Him and Gator Hoskins... plus it's hard to get excited about an offensive lineman. :wink2: Even though they are much needed.

I was real glad that he slid into undrafted in the GML. Was a toss up between Lackey and him. Was real happy when no one challenged me for him to as I hadn't drafted a single WR.

"Sumlit wrote:

Tripp looks slow as hell in those videos. Severe downer.

I guess I have to chalk this one up to people seeing different things.

I do not see a slow player. I see the opposite. He's actually very fast and athletically gifted.

His reactions were slow, but that's a different measure.

"Limbo wrote:

Tripp is going to have a steep learning curve because of the level of athlete he's going to start seeing all of a sudden. I love the energy and it looks like his instincts are okay, albeit against weak (slower) competition. But there are things in coverage that just aren't going to fly when he's running with or pursuing NFL players. Too many wrong steps that give up separation, needs to play stronger in space whether it's wrapping up or getting off perimeter blocks, and the main thing is that he lets his momentum get away from him too often...like he tightens himself up and gets off-balance when he's doing anything beside coming downhill. I like the athleticism and energy, but it's going to take a lot of refining to make him a legit linebacker at this level. I wouldn't expect him to do a whole lot this year aside from special teams. But hey, he's a 5th round pick and there is something to work with long-term. Seems like he has the right attitude for it.

This much more closely approximates what I see in Jordan Tripp.

In fact I see it a bit more simply. He's your classic project player. He needs to be taught what things he needs to key on in order to be successful. If you see this then do this, that sort of thing. He'll be given a much clearer road map by his NFL coaches.

He's like a poor man's Ryan Shazier and it's no coincidence Miami were all over Shazier and then took Tripp as a consolation prize. He's got tremendous natural abilities and he really seems to be playing off pure instinct rather than refined coaching and recognition. Physically or mentally I am not sure I see any road blocks inherent to who he is as a player. I'm not sure I see these issues you're talking about with tightening up in this situation or that. I just see a physically and mentally impressive guy that's out there winging it...which was good enough at the FCS level but won't be good enough in the NFL.