Tyler Thigpen

If your asking me we keep him and get ride of Pat White.. I know that will look horrible and it is a mistake if you ask me hes way to small (thickness) to take the NFL hits a QB takes. Hes a gimmick player IMHO.

Tyler is a FAST, SMART and tough player he survived and did WELL in Kansas City where there is no talent. I say we use him as the #2..

Everyone will disagree that doesn't make me wrong though... Pat White should have not be drafted.. He should have been traded (his pick) for a real wideout..

I could see it, but do you really trust Pat White to come in and play for Chad Henne right now? Next season?

I don't trust Pat White's arm right now, personally. If Henne goes down, odds are our season will be toast anyways (next season or this one). But that chance is somewhat lessened with Thigpen than with White, at least in my eyes.

It's an interesting proposition but it's not like we payed much to get Thig in a trade. He actually came to us pretty reasonably if I recall. So I don't know that we can get anything huge for him, I mean if KC could have they would have.

"Dorfdad wrote:

If your asking me we keep him and get ride of Pat White.. I know that will look horrible and it is a mistake if you ask me hes way to small (thickness) to take the NFL hits a QB takes. Hes a gimmick player IMHO.

Tyler is a FAST, SMART and tough player he survived and did WELL in Kansas City where there is no talent. I say we use him as the #2..

Everyone will disagree that doesn't make me wrong though... Pat White should have not be drafted.. He should have been traded (his pick) for a real wideout..

Dorfdad,
I TOTALLY agree. We could of spent that pick on a WR, this was a good year for WR's. I loved White at WVU, but if we are to take the 'next step' it has to be with Henne at the helm 100% of the time. I have no problem with Brown running the Wildcat a few times a game, but White is an added dimension we do not need and frankly is not working out. Another WR or even LB would have been better.
Tough to play Monday morning QB to our FO though, it has been a great 1.5 years so far.

believe me.....imo....thigpen>>>>>white

if anything, get stewart and get rid of the ****in wildcat.....and run a normal offense. but i agree, i like thigpen alot.....i feel alot better with him behind henne then white.

I don't see it happening Chris.

a) Pat White is nowhere ready to be a "real" Qb.
b) Henne gets hurt...Pat White steps in.
We wouldn't have anybody else if Pat got hurt.

very reasonable, but i fully expect both RB & RW back next year ...

Thigpen is a good chip to have though ..... we could keep him, could trade him ... but it's nice to have those options available come the offseason.

When you draft someone like Jonathan Stewart and it pays off, you don't trade him after 2 years for a 2nd/3rd string QB. Even if we throw in a pick, it's a dumb move for them. Having two great backs it the only good thing they have going for them (much like us). They always have fresh legs throughout the game. It's not worth trading that for a guy like Thigpen.

What we need to do is re-sign Ronnie to keep the tandem intact for another year. Then we make a play for a big WR who makes things happen.

We also have immediate needs at safety, ILB, OLB to worry about.

Ricky may be 30+ years old; but he has the legs of a 28 year old.

"Dorfdad wrote:

Pat White should have not be drafted.. He should have been traded (his pick) for a real wideout..

Ya gotta wonder if we could have traded the Pat White and Pat Turner picks to get Boldin. Hindsight says we should have (it they would have accepted it). But it's still early.

I think the chances of us landing Jonathan Stewart are at about 0.01 %, bro. Maybe they'll give us Brad Hoover, lol.

Thigpen is a young QB that can be a great backup for Henne... Pat White should improve with the WC... but, he has a lot of work to do making some throws, meanwhile Tyler is our second option.

"GISH wrote:

When you draft someone like Jonathan Stewart and it pays off, you don't trade him after 2 years for a 2nd/3rd string QB. Even if we throw in a pick, it's a dumb move for them. Having two great backs it the only good thing they have going for them (much like us). They always have fresh legs throughout the game. It's not worth trading that for a guy like Thigpen.

What we need to do is re-sign Ronnie to keep the tandem intact for another year. Then we make a play for a big WR who makes things happen.

We also have immediate needs at safety, ILB, OLB to worry about.

Ricky may be 30+ years old; but he has the legs of a 28 year old.

do you not read the news? ricky signed a contract and will retire after the 2k10 season. then what? we still have football to play 2 years from now.....gotta be prepared.

Ain't no chance in hell anytime soon Tyler Thigpen makes up any significant portion of a trade, especially for a recent high 1st round pick.

"Disgustipate wrote:

Ain't no chance in hell anytime soon Tyler Thigpen makes up any significant portion of a trade, especially for a recent high 1st round pick.

why not?

So Thigpen, as a second-year pro with no prior experience and a last-place roster around him, threw for 2,608 yards and 18 TDs with 12 interceptions in the first 11 starts of his career. And Roethlisberger, already fully polished and with a Super Bowl-quality roster around him, threw for 3,301 yards and 17 TDs with 15 interceptions in 16 games. Hmm, interesting. And Roethlisberger had as many turnovers as Thigpen did scores

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/08/27/a-case-for-tyler-thigpen/

put a good team around him.....and hes a good young qb for the future....i said to add a pick as well.

"SICK wrote:

why not?

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/08/27/a-case-for-tyler-thigpen/

put a good team around him.....and hes a good young qb for the future....i said to add a pick as well.

I think that quote isn't looking at everything. Thigpen played in a spread offense basically and his reads were different. He was basically told, hit the first open WR you see and they had guys running crossing routes, etc. IIRC, Bowe was the deep threat really and that's it. Tony Gonzalez and a few others worked the underneath and the seams. Thigpen's talented but he can get erratic with his accuracy. I like him but I don't see him being a major player in a large deal to bring over a quality player. However, I've been wrong before.

"alen1 wrote:

I think that quote isn't looking at everything. Thigpen played in a spread offense basically and his reads were different. He was basically told, hit the first open WR you see and they had guys running crossing routes, etc. IIRC, Bowe was the deep threat really and that's it. Tony Gonzalez and a few others worked the underneath and the seams. Thigpen's talented but he can get erratic with his accuracy. I like him but I don't see him being a major player in a large deal to bring over a quality player. However, I've been wrong before.

Agree, unfortunately for us. But then again, that's why we were able to acquire him fairly inexpensively.

Thigpen is all potential right now; we'd have to showcase him in the exhibition season next year, assuming he's improved enough by then to impress.

"SICK wrote:

do you not read the news? ricky signed a contract and will retire after the 2k10 season. then what? we still have football to play 2 years from now.....gotta be prepared.

yes i read the news. i know ricky's contract status. what's more important? getting a WR to play NOW, or preparing for something that hasnt happened yet? not to mention that leaves us with a huge hole at QB. If Henne gets hurt, are you ok with Pat White being our only viable QB?

"dukane5 wrote:

Dorfdad,
I TOTALLY agree. We could of spent that pick on a WR, this was a good year for WR's. I loved White at WVU, but if we are to take the 'next step' it has to be with Henne at the helm 100% of the time. I have no problem with Brown running the Wildcat a few times a game, but White is an added dimension we do not need and frankly is not working out. Another WR or even LB would have been better.
Tough to play Monday morning QB to our FO though, it has been a great 1.5 years so far.

We scored 7 points with White in the game and 10 without him. He certainly wasn't the problem.

:lol: Am I in a Madden trade thread?

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

:lol: Am I in a Madden trade thread?

no, gm fantasy league.

Sick, but I think this is totally crazy.

There is no way Carolina would get rid of a stud young RB like Stewart for a developmental QB.

If Carolina wanted him they could have offered the Chiefs a 4th rounder and stole him from us. Plus since the trade he certainly has not done anything to increase any value he had.

Carolina had their shot to buy low on him, and they passed.

I'm glad we have white

"GISH wrote:

yes i read the news. i know ricky's contract status. what's more important? getting a WR to play NOW, or preparing for something that hasnt happened yet? not to mention that leaves us with a huge hole at QB. If Henne gets hurt, are you ok with Pat White being our only viable QB?

no i already said that.

soooo thigpen isnt good enough to be a big piece of a trade......but he is good enough to be our starter if henne went down?

i am literally just asking.....i brought this up for discussion, and think past the for stewart deal only.....can we dangle and use/and will we use....thigpen for a trade this offseason?

"SICK wrote:

no i already said that.

soooo thigpen isnt good enough to be a big piece of a trade......but he is good enough to be our starter if henne went down?

i am literally just asking.....i brought this up for discussion, and think past the for stewart deal only.....can we dangle and use/and will we use....thigpen for a trade this offseason?

Depends if we waste another 2nd rounder on a QB.

"SICK wrote:

why not?

Because his value as considered by the league as a whole has been pretty clearly articulated.

He was up for trade essentially the entire last off-season. The best offer, prior to the Dolphins, was a 5th round pick, from the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Dolphins compensation for Thigpen still seemingly has not been disclosed, but it's pretty clear they didn't pay anything significant for him.

Tyler Thigpen has not, in the meantime, done anything to increase his value. In fact, given that he will probably spend the entire season inactive and on the bench, his value will be lessened, barring some spectacular play next preseason.

The math simply does not add up to Thigpen being anything other than a cherry on the top of a more significant trade.