Despite the naysayers, we have reason for optimism on offense

 

This is the season, I'll be proven right about Philbin & Tannehill.

 

Yep it looks like we will finally be able to block someone. That alone will be huge. I also expect Ryan to take another step forward. New coordinator should help a lot as well.

 

Did you copy and paste this from the last 5 off-seasons?

 

I have a lot more faith in Tannehill than I do Philbin. Why did we hire this guy again?

 

Why are you always so negative? You need to get laid dude.

 

I was just asking a question...I don't even necessarily disagree with him.

 

You still need to get laid. Seriously. I'm assuming you'll have to pay for it, but consider it money well spent.

 

there is always optimism every offseason when you are consistently a mediocre team. At least I have context for my optimism. Your persistent cynical, one-track minded comments are consistent through...let's see...2308 posts.

 

DJ, While I always respect your comments, the fact is that the only time Lazor has ever been an OC was at the University of Virginia. His results there were not that great and the offense actually got worse each year after his first year as the OC.

Lazor might end up being an excellent OC, but the reality is that he did not call plays with the Eagles and Chip Kelly is the reason the Eagles offense was so productive last year, not Lazor. Hopefully Lazor will be a big upgrade as the OC, but since he has never been an OC at the NFL and was only mediocre as an OC in college, only time will tell.

 

Do i really need to say it?

Deej sometimes you make too easy. lol

 

He'll be the real deal for us to the point he will get hired away in one or two years to be a HC

 

I hope so. That means we'll be kicking *** and taking names.

 

Rumors are Lazor only took the job if Philbin promised to be hands off with the offense. If so, that's the best decision Philbin made. Last year it was clear the offense was ran under Philbin's direction. If we're successful I'll give Philbin credit for being hands off. The problem is, if Lazor leaves for a HC job ...

 

I'll take that as a yes.

 

Well he'd be 1 for 2. I personally would rather have the head coach have the vision and the OC to carry it out, versus vice versa ;)

 

Obviously I know Kelly hired him. I merely pointed out that it was Kelly who was running the Eagles offense last year and not Lazor.

Two years ago, the Dolphins under Sherman also talked about using a fast attack offense. In fact, the offense running plays quickly is OTA's was similar to what they have been doing under Lazor.
Once the regular season began in 2012, the pace of the offense slowed down considerably. In fact, even the Eagles last year slowed down the pace of their offense as the season went along.
A quick paced offense is great as long as the offense is moving the ball down the field and scoring points. If on the other hand the offense isn't effective during the game, that puts a lot of pressure on the defense because a lot of three and outs by the offense will mean the defense will be on the field a lot more during the game.

I think the defense will struggle this coming season and the offense will end up having to play at a slower pace in an attempt to limit the time the defense will be on the field.

As far as Lazor's leadership skills are concerned. I hope he is able to come in and provide the leadership skills required of a top OC in the NFL. Right now things seem great and the players seem to be buying into what he brings to the team. Yet only success during the regular season on offense will determine if he is the right man for the job or not. It seems that every off season fans see only the best concerning the future, but once the regular season begins, reality sets in. Hopefully the reality this year will be far different than the reality we have had to deal with over the past five seasons.

I do agree that Tannehill needs to be used more with a moving pocket. I too never understood why Sherman didn't move the pocket and use more movement and shifts by the receiving corp and RB's during his time as the Dolphins OC. I am glad Sherman is gone and I certainly hope Lazor becomes a quality OC in the NFL while he is with the Dolphins. I just think it is very difficult to judge how effective he will be as the teams OC, when all we have seen of him in that capacity is in OTA's at this point.

 

Slooow down, geeze. This guy hasn't done anything as a coordinator yet.

Philbin can identify a good coach? We already know he failed pretty hard at that the last two years, where it looked he was trying to keep Mike Sherman to the point of risking his job. Philbin's choices on his staff is one of the biggest strikes against him thusfar.

I get that Lazor spent a year with an offensive guru and that he's saying the right things to the media...but man can we wait to see some touchdowns before we drool all over this guy and call him head coach material?

 

So basically he expects the players to huddle up, know their assignments, line up and perform their task on the play called. I would have to say that is probably what every OC in the NFL, college , high school, and even in kids PeeWee football expect from their offensive players.

Personally I would rather the offense line up and the QB read the defense prior to running the play. This seems to work for QB's like Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers, just to name a few. This might slow down the offense, but at least the QB will have more time to option out of a called play into one which might work better against the defense he is facing.

In fact I actually liked offenses better when all the OC did was put in the game plan and the QB actually called the plays on game day. Unfortunately there are very few QB's today who are capable of calling their own plays during the game. To me, the OC coordinator position is greatly overrated. If you have great talent on offense and a great QB, just about any moron can be seen as a great OC.

All you have to do is look at the Colts when Manning was injured and didn't play. The offense which was so potent the year before looked totally inept under the same OC when Manning was out for the year. I have no doubt if Manning had played in 2011, the Colts offense who have been productive and the OC and HC would would still hold these positions with the Colts. The reality is that great QB's and great talent on offense makes a good OC. It certainly isn't the other way around.

If Tannehill proves to be a quality NFL QB and the players around him step up their game, Lazor will be seen as a great OC for the Dolphins. If Tannehill is nothing but a mediocre NFL QB, Lazor will be seen merely as another failed OC for the Dolphins. So it is really all about Tannehill and very little about Lazor.

 

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Because then the offense can't adjust or call out blocking assignments when necessary. Tannehill's pretty good making pre-snap reads and adjustments. Let him do that.

 

I like how whoever edited that picture just cuts off the edge of the Detroit sign they pasted in there(with paint probably) and sticks it on a pillar way in the background.

 

Not to wholeheartedly agree with LB, but it does feel like we read this article every single offseason after a hiring/firing of coordinators.

 

A true pro.

 

DJ

Here's an article explaining exactly what the Tony Franklin system is all about. Fast paced, spread offense. I told you Chip Kelley, Gus Malzahn, Art Briles, and even myself have adopted Tony's spread principles and tweaked them to make it our own. Tony is known as the godfather of the modern day spread offenses.

Franklin, Malzahn, Briles, and Kelley consistently have top 10 offenses. It's not about adjusting plays at the line of scrimmage. Plays are designed to where there are routes included to beat all the coverages. For example, the way i was taught the Franklin system was to have one receiver running a route to give you an advantage vs Cover-1 or 0. Another receiver is running a route to beat cover 2 or quarters. And, another receiver running a route to beat cover 3. Rarely will you see two receivers running the same route. It's about creating space. My teams don't even huddle. We do everything with hand signals. We get to the LOS, the QB quickly surveys to see where the possible blitz is coming from, and what the safety alignment is (which gives a good indication of the coverage). Then, we attack. We call our system 'NASCAR'. The goal is to be fast as hell and destroy the psyche of the defense. I have seen so many opposing defenses just give up after 2 quarters of football. They are gassed. We run more plays in 2 quarters than most run for the entire game. This is the same thing Chip Kelley wants and what Bill Lazor envisions for our offense. This is why we need so many receivers who can play in multiple spots.

I, personally, love what i am hearing so far from Lazor. But, i need to see proof also.

 

Assuming you ALWAYS have the correct offensive play against the defense called, it would be great to just rush to the line of scrimmage and run the play. Unfortunately that is not the case and it is why the top tier QB's in the NFL take the time to read the defense and make changes to their calls at the LOS, in an attempt to run the best play possible against the defense they are facing.

Perhaps this Lazor type offense will be effective with Tannehill, since Tannehill hasn't shown the ability of the top tier QB's in the NFL, in so far as reading defenses. I think a lot of the sacks last year were directly related to the fact Tannehill was not effective enough in reading the defensive coverage and he ended up holding onto the ball once his primary receiver was covered. So for Tannehill, perhaps this type of offense will help him. I just think QB's who can effectively read defenses prior to running plays usually end up being the better QB's over the course of a season.

I want Lazor to be effective and I certainly want Tannehill to prove this year that he is the long term answer for the Dolphins at the QB position. I am just taking a wait and see attitude in regards to these two individuals, as well as the rest of the coaches and players. The one thing the past decade with the Dolphins has clearly shown is that talk of a successful season for this organization has been mostly related to the off season and quickly fades as the season proceeds. So hopefully the 2014 season will be as successful as many people on here seem to think it will be at this time.

 

This just shows a misunderstanding or disinterest in actual metrics that show this isn't the case.