Long was a very good player but we definitely should have taken Matt Ryan.

 

Biggest mistake is still passing on Drew Brees twice!

Once in the draft in 2001 when everyone thought we'd draft him but genius Wannstedt said no let's draft Jamar Fletcher instead! And a second time in 2006 when we could've had him as a FA.

I'm very confident this team would have won at least one SB by now had we drafted Brees and probably more. Not getting the QB right has been one of the two major reasons for the sorry state of the franchise.. the other being the HC (and hopefully that's fixed now!).

 

I didn't necessarily disagree with the thought process. Who knows how a Matt Ryan would've done down in Miami.

Some thought Matt Ryan was falling off a bit. I think prior to last year, they had something like three straight seasons without a playoff appearance?

I've always like Ryan.

We have what we have. I really like Gase and think he can get Miami over the hump. I like Tannehill, too. He's still young (QB wise) and in his prime. Let's hope next year, we have a breakout season.

 

I wanted to trade down that year, but apparently we had no takers. I was happy with Jake Long. No one could have predicted his injuries. I wasn't all that high on Matt Ryan back then. Certainly didn't think that he was worth a top 10 pick, and I watched him play a lot in college. I thought that he was better than Chad Henne, but not a ton better.

I think that it shows how players can thrive or fail depending on their surroundings, teammates, coaching, injuries and luck. Ryan became a good QB fairly quickly, but it took him a long time to become great. Would he have been given those chances, surrounded by far less help as a Dolphin? Or would he have been declared not good enough, and run out of town?

The biggest mistake that Miami made was stealing Bill Parcells out of Atlanta's hands. He was set to go there, and we shoved a bigger pile of cash in front of him. It took years to rid the team of the stench of tuna after that and truly rebuild, and then it was with the mistake that was Phlibin. Here we are nine years later finally getting it right.

 

Watching this game I think we should've signed that Chris Hogan guy.

 

I know he's 7-eleven but man it's like the Steelers don't know he exists.

 

Belichick really is the best coach. He's figured out how to have a high powered passing offense with white receivers.

 

Yes. Little shifty dudes as opposed to straight line speed guys. When you also have one of the best ball placers Ive ever seen throwing it's a recipe for success.

Atlanta sure as hell wont be stopping them, going to be a high scoring SB.

 

4 of Miami's 17 games this season were against these 2 teams.

Course beyond that we only played ONE other playoff team (SEA)

In those games we averaged 18 PPG and allowed 24

Useless information but outlines how much we struggled on offense vs top tier teams as well as defense. Of course we had our backup QB in for 2 of those games.

 

the way to build a team is to first build it to win your division. Being that New England is who you have to get by I think you need a defense that can get pressure with four linemen and a secondary that can play man. It's why I think that even though they arent the most glaring needs another pass rushing DE or CB is something we have to consider high in the draft

 

I was one of the only people who wanted Matt Ryan. Dolphins fans were almost universally behind getting Jake Long with the second choice being Chris Long. Dolphins fans got the player they wanted

 

Matt Ryan and Chris Hogan, two guys kicking *** to get their teams to the SB. Two guys this organization passed on.

Yeah, when some of us constantly bash the organization, don't be surprised. Belichick saw what some of us fans saw and look at Hogan. Gase couldn't even figure out how good Ajayi was.


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Wow, Hogan set the Pats playoff receiving record... thanks Philbin...


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You're not the only one. I battled many a homer for years.

My analogy is why would you worry about the front door (LT) of Fort Knox when there wasn't any gold (Henne) inside and the side and back doors were unlocked.

 

i remember on the other site and when this site was "puppies" or something. i think it was me, you and two others vs the entire board. i just couldnt believe we had waited for ten years at that point and that we would bypass a franchise qb. everyone said he threw too many interceptions but i watched almost all of his games and realized half the ints werent his fault

 

I think that could be true in most circumstances, but right now, it just isn't with us. You're battering your head against the wall trying to be better than New England. We won 10 games this season without beating them and made it into the playoffs. I think that we need to fix our known issues, win as many other games as we can, and hope that someone else knocks them out in the playoffs so that we don't have to face them if we can make it to that point.

Then, just bide our time until Hoodie and Terrible Tom are gone.

 

Yup. He was asked to do a lot in BC (I don't watch college but my boss was a huge fan and it made me a fan of him that year).

 

We would need Ryan T to take a huge leap to M Ryan though. Matt Ryan has had some pretty good years and two very good years (this past year out of this world good). 2014 was great as well. The rest of the years Tanny has played about that level give or take. It's not physical. It just needs to click on the field when things slow down. Let's see how we do next year. Second year in Gase's offense will be key.

 

Back then, nobody wanted to see another David Carr and the offensive line was so bad that Ryan would have gotten destroyed down here. The theory at the time was that Matt Ryan would not be the last good QB coming out of college and that before you can invest millions of dollars and 4-5 years in a QB you need a line that can protect him first.

 

This is the truth, and whats funny to me is that we should be more aware of this than any other team in the league, because Dan Marino masked deficiencies better than any QB in the history of the NFL.

No D support, no run support, year after year and yet you felt like we had a chance in every single game simply because of who was behind C.

 

First of all, if Belicheck was so smart in regards to Hogan, he would have signed him once the Dolphins cut him in 2012. Instead, Hogan was signed by the Bills to their practice squad and he eventually became a starter in Buffalo.

The Patriots signed him as a free agent after the 2015 season.

As far as Gase not figuring out how good Ajayi was. Ajayi was a late round draft pick in 2015, so obviously there were 31 other teams which weren't very high on him as an NFL RB.

Ajayi was very average in 2015 and he did nothing during the preseason which led anyone to believe he was going to be the RB he turned into during the season.

He acted like a child when he wasn't named the starter after the preseason ended. So Gase left him in Miami while the team traveled to Seattle. Ajayi obviously learned from this that Gase was in charge and he needed to grow up and act like a man if he wanted to be a member of the Miami Dolphins.

To me, Gase handled Ajayi's temper tantrum exactly right. I think showing he was the boss and wasn't going to put up with this type of behavior helped Ajayi become a much better RB and team player over the course of the season.

 

I, and a few others, have explained this to him multiple times.

No effect on him whatsoever. lol

 

Every single team in the league is looking for the next Brady. Seeking and finding are two entirely different things.

Besides, its not as if the Pats knew some secret about Brady that projected him to be one of the best QBs of all time. They simply took a flier on a guy and got lucky. Saying we should be looking for that is similar to telling someone they should play the lottery if they want to get rich. There's just so much luck involved and these guys don't grow on trees.

 

Make no mistake, the Pats have a formula for winning.

And that is, devise a system that nearly any QB with an average arm, above average intellect, and determination can win in, build a great defense, and sprinkle in some players that have average ability, but the same determination and intellect. Throw in some cheating and voilà... Championships.

 

Or Belichick prioritized other parts of his team and assigned a value to Hogan, then pounced when the timing was right.

Wrong. Myself and other fans projected him to start after the final year of Miller's contract. It was obvious he'd gain more YAC. You'd be upset and think the HC is wrong if you were Ajayi and he started Foster who gets injured every season and had low YPC for a while already.


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