We re-sign Delmas and LaMichael James

"SICK wrote:

Jesus I didnt realize how young Delmas was......he will be 28 when the season starts. A young 28. Damn, feels like hes been in the league awhile.

I wouldn't say a young 28 particularly because of how long he's been in the league as well as the fact he had shoddy knees even before he came to Miami and tore his ACL. There's a reason last year was just a one year deal for relatively low coinage. This year same.

"finsbuck719 wrote:

I'm really confident in our secondary.

Grimes, Delmas, and Reshad are good-to-great starters. That leaves us with a "need" at our 2nd CB spot, but I think either Taylor or Will Davis will lock that spot up this season barring any injury, plus we got Brice McCain this off season. I'd like to stay away from defense in the draft, other than maybe a depth pick at LB. Other than that, I wouldn't be against going straight after playmakers and OL help in this draft as it's loaded with both. I think we're a single draft away from a complete team on paper.

While I love the signing of Delmas and hope he is fully recovered from his injury. I have to disagree with you regarding the draft.

I am not nearly as confident as you seem to be about the CB position opposite Grimes. I don't see Davis as a starter in the NFL. He just has too many holes in his game IMO and if he even makes the team, it will probably be more for special teams and secondary depth.

I have always liked Taylor's skill set, but he just seems to be injured all the time. If he can stay healthy, he may be able to fill the other starting CB position, but I think the Dolphins still need to use a draft pick to bring in more competition in the secondary.

If Waynes should drop to them in the first round, the Dolphins would be wise to draft him.

I'm not sure why you assume all they need is depth at the LB position. What they need is an impact middle linebacker, which they do not have on the roster at this time.

They also need a LB who can step in and provide solid play when Misi goes down with yet another injury. In fact I would love to see them draft a LB who could come in and replace Misi. I have just never been that high on Misi.

Perhaps McCain can step up this year and win a starting spot, but it concerns me that the coaching staff showed less and less faith in him as the season went along last year.

At this time the only LB I feel comfortable with is Jenkins.

I do agree they need to draft offensive line help also. With only 6 picks in the draft at this time, they need to spend 4 of those picks on the defensive side of the ball and the remaining two picks on the offensive line.

The only offensive playmakers I would really have any interest in them drafting in the first round are, White, Cooper, or Gurley. I don't think they have any chance of getting White or Cooper. Gurley may still be there that at 14 and if he is, I would love that pick.

If they can't get one of the three playmakers I listed. I would prefer they concentrate on the defense and the OL in this years draft and hope that Landry, Stills, Cameron, and if they sign Crabtree, are able to provide the receiving yardage. While Miller, Williams, and James provide the yards on the ground and in short passes out of the backfield.

"Fin D wrote:

Very, very, very happy about Delmas who is ridiculously underrated as CK pointed out.

To mean more than anything, means we MUST draft his heir apparent this year. Let the rook learn under him.

isn't Atkins his heir?

"Fin D wrote:

Very, very, very happy about Delmas who is ridiculously underrated as CK pointed out.

To mean more than anything, means we MUST draft his heir apparent this year. Let the rook learn under him.

I don't think Miami will be drafting safety early, if at all. They have some depth and perhaps even promise in both Aikens and Thomas, hell maybe even Don Jones. What they needed was a good starter and they managed that by resigning Delmas.

"ckparrothead wrote:

I wouldn't say a young 28 particularly because of how long he's been in the league as well as the fact he had shoddy knees even before he came to Miami and tore his ACL. There's a reason last year was just a one year deal for relatively low coinage. This year same.

I meant young literally. He's 28 in mid April.

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"muskrat21 wrote:

isn't Atkins his heir?

we'll see how he looks like in preseason.... I am not confident about his, Taylor's or Davis' abilities in the NFL..

Really? You guys excited about Delmas??? We just threw away much needed cash just now. Now we pay people to sit on the couch and nurse I injuries? He's never been healthy with Detroit and he wasn't healthy in his one year in Miami. Hickey has made decisions that make sense, this isn't one of them. It's a dumb one.

Glad they got Delmas back. Really need him to come back strong since the team couldn't get a FS in free agency and the draft isn't strong with DBs. How is his progress in rehab? Will he be ready week 1?

"Phins Up Wins Up wrote:

Glad they got Delmas back. Really need him to come back strong since the team couldn't get a FS in free agency and the draft isn't strong with DBs. How is his progress in rehab? Will he be ready week 1?

Apparently he is way ahead of schedule and looks certain to be ready for the start of the season.

"finsbuck719 wrote:

I'm really confident in our secondary.

Grimes, Delmas, and Reshad are good-to-great starters. That leaves us with a "need" at our 2nd CB spot, but I think either Taylor or Will Davis will lock that spot up this season barring any injury, plus we got Brice McCain this off season. I'd like to stay away from defense in the draft, other than maybe a depth pick at LB. Other than that, I wouldn't be against going straight after playmakers and OL help in this draft as it's loaded with both. I think we're a single draft away from a complete team on paper.

I think that's a bit of a rosey projection. Taylor and Davis have not proven yet they're capable. Grimes is the oldest starting CB in the NFL and could hit the wall very soon if he hasn't already. And even if he holds up they'll need to start grooming a replacement. The team could probably also use another solid DT. The kids behind Suh and Mitchell have some potential, but that's about all it is right now.

"Harleydude666 wrote:

Really? You guys excited about Delmas??? We just threw away much needed cash just now. Now we pay people to sit on the couch and nurse I injuries? He's never been healthy with Detroit and he wasn't healthy in his one year in Miami. Hickey has made decisions that make sense, this isn't one of them. It's a dumb one.

Excitement is the wrong word, we're relieved he's back, because he fills a hole. We obviously need to address the position for the future but he's not here long term. And by the way no team in the NFL can field all pro's in every position.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Excitement is the wrong word, we're relieved he's back, because he fills a hole. We obviously need to address the position for the future but he's not here long term. And by the way no team in the NFL can field all pro's in every position.

Very good sir, and thank you for you response and explanation.

Glad to have Delmas back. I was excited to have him signed last year. However, aside from the pick 6 at Jacksonville, he didn't supply the big plays he was known for while he was a Lion. Still, as mentioned, the D was much better with him back there. I suppose we'll be watching his rehab the rest of the offseason just like we are Albert. It was reported somewhere that he may need to start the season on the PUP.

Has anyone seen the contract details? Another one year deal? Or maybe structured like Cameron's (or Finnegan or Stark's last year) where there's a second year structured where he'd either be extended or cut?

Why dont we all take a deep breathe and start over.

Anyway, I do disagree that it is a bad signing. Yes he has some pretty serious injury concerns but when he does play he plays very well and is a hard hitter. Do I expect him to play 16 or hopefully more, No. Hasnt been his history, but I'll take what ever he can give us on the field. I don't think they had a whole lot of choice, Safety in particular is extremely weak in this draft.

Welcome aboard!

"Tin Indian wrote:

Why dont we all take a deep breathe and start over.

Anyway, I do disagree that it is a bad signing. Yes he has some pretty serious injury concerns but when he does play he plays very well and is a hard hitter. Do I expect him to play 16 or hopefully more, No. Hasnt been his history, but I'll take what ever he can give us on the field. I don't think they had a whole lot of choice, Safety in particular is extremely weak in this draft.

Welcome aboard!

I like him as a player and what he brings, he does play hard. But I'm so tired of the organization trying to get injured players on the cheap like Delmas, Knowshon etc.. It's disheartening to see solid play just to have these kinds of players calling it a season and still getting paid. There are injuries with everything but then there are certain athletes who injure themselves turning over in their sleep and it's time the management team tries to realize who they are

I get what you're saying. Delmas is injury prone. That's a concern. However, Delmas played in this system and he played well. There are no available FA's worthwhile at this position. The low cost is an added bonus, given our cap situation. Given all of the above, what was the better option Miami neglected? Re-signing Delmas was the best case scenario at the FS position.

"Clark Kent wrote:

I get what you're saying. Delmas is injury prone. That's a concern. However, Delmas played in this system and he played well. There are no available FA's worthwhile at this position. The low cost is an added bonus, given our cap situation. Given all of the above, what was the better option Miami neglected? Re-signing Delmas was the best case scenario at the FS position.

I get what you're saying. Now I don't know too much about college ball but I hear there are two solid NFL ready safeties and a bunch of good LBs. If the safeties are that good why not to snag one of them. Safeties usually last for years in the NFL....usually. I keep reading there will LBs left going deep into the 2nd round. Like I said, I'm not well versed on the talent pool coming in the draft, maybe someone can step in and give me the lowdown. Me personally, I want a top flight Bona fide money receiver in the first. Im so tired of doing patchwork at that position.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Brent Grimes was a guy we got on the cheap because of injuries.

No, not injuries, one injury. He's been fine since for two years.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

It sounds like you wish we had three first round picks. We do not. In this leauge everyone is allocated the same number of resources and you're left to assign those resources in a way that is condusive to winning games.

There are no safeties in this draft that can come in and start, IMO. Shaq Thompson is adamently sticking to linebacker, Landon Collins lacks basic instincts and coverage skills and the FA markey is bare as hell. There are a lot of good linebackers but most of them figure to go in the 20-60 range of the draft.

Amari Cooper is the guy that we all need to pray falls to us. He probably won't, but beyond that expect them to look at Eric Kendricks, Trey Waynes, Davante Parker, La'Ell Collins and Melvin Gordon.

I never said that, wishing we had three picks in the first. But I have read that the two safeties are first round material. If they are, why not. It's a postion where we never had a superstar except maybe back in the 70s. Would be nice to have that position locked up for the next 10 years for once

"Harleydude666 wrote:

I get what you're saying. Now I don't know too much about college ball but I hear there are two solid NFL ready safeties and a bunch of good LBs. If the safeties are that good why not to snag one of them. Safeties usually last for years in the NFL....usually. I keep reading there will LBs left going deep into the 2nd round. Like I said, I'm not well versed on the talent pool coming in the draft, maybe someone can step in and give me the lowdown. Me personally, I want a top flight Bona fide money receiver in the first. Im so tired of doing patchwork at that position.

So, you admit that you don't know anything about college ball but you heard somewhere that there are college safeties ready to start....and that's why its stupid to sign Delmas?

"Fin D wrote:

So, you admit that you don't know anything about college ball but you heard somewhere that there are college safeties ready to start....and that's why its stupid to sign Delmas?

Boy, you are really trying here. I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut you down that bad before and now you're reaching for a flame war. YES! I don't know much about the college talent, BUT, if you would have read my post just before this one, instead of trying to conjure up a wise crack trying to impress your cronies, that if those safeties are first round material, why not? Meaning why not draft one. Again, let me know when Delmas plays a full season. Hell, I'd be happy to get 12 games out of him.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

You seriously think Brent Grimes' ability when he became a free agent was only worth $5 million?

His injury was the ONLY reason we got him that cheap.

It was a prove it deal. Everyone knew it. ATL fans were not happy with that $ amount. We got him on the cheap.

I'm happy to have Delmas back, his play on the field speaks for itself, and we were without a doubt a better team with him, than without him.
However.....this is a major risk. I still say we need to draft a safety in the early rounds. Maybe Aikens or Thomas can take the next step, or maybe we luck out and Delmas just doesn't get hurt.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

You seriously think Brent Grimes' ability when he became a free agent was only worth $5 million?

His injury was the ONLY reason we got him that cheap.

Umm yeah, I think I get that, and I applauded the move when we made it. He had an injury, a serious one but one that showed he completely recovered from when he was worked out. Delmas has MANY INJURIES over many games that he misses because of said injuries. He's NEVER healthy. Yes, sometimes you have to take a chance on someone like Grimes and Delmas. We took our chance on Delmas and lost, why make it over and over again. He's a part time player who has talent at best

According to PFF Delmas ranked 51st in the league last year among safeties who played more than 300 snaps.

He was once an intimitadator, with laser tackling and plus ball skills. He isn't that anymore.

Dolphins are paying 3.5 mil for veteran mentor and cheerleader. I really don't have a problem with that. The human aspect to the players is important. These guys aren't robots,or characters in a video game.

Fans should try to more realistic. All this hype and hoopla over a player whose best years are behind him are just a little too much.

FO better damnwell take the safety position seriously come draft day.