Week 2: Home against Buffalo

This is one of the most disastrous nights in franchise history.

Grier should be fired tommorow

Another one through the hands of Julien Hill... shocking.

"pumpdogs wrote:

Grier should be fired tommorow

This may be the most logical thing you've said in a long time on a gameday! :knucks: :ffic:

"Tuanon4Life wrote:

Seriously this is a disaster. The franchise is set back years because of this. I have zero faith Tua is safe on a football field after this concussion. Trade Hill now, get a pair of first rounders, and start the rebuild. I was wrong about Tua. He's done.

Good on you sir.

What a disaster. First, McD's play calling was terrible. This team is not build to win by relying on the run with lots of short passes. What made this offense great was the explosive passing play and it's like he just forgot that.

Then you have Tua's bad play followed by a concussion. I see some comments on this page (haven't read the others) saying it's over for him, but I doubt it. Tua continued playing after all those concussions a few years ago, and I bet whatever his reasons were for continuing to play haven't changed. We'll see, but I bet he'll be back.

Hope McD learns from this.

Well on the bright side Achane is apparently very healthy

WTF are we gonna do? First and foremost we need to sign another quarterback. I would call Seattle and see what they want for Sam Howell. Go from there. This has to be it for Tua. 90 million promised to him on top of the 70+ million he's made. Just fkin call it a career dude.

"cbrad wrote:

What a disaster. First, McD's play calling was terrible. This team is not build to win by relying on the run with lots of short passes. What made this offense great was the explosive passing play and it's like he just forgot that.

Then you have Tua's bad play followed by a concussion. I see some comments on this page (haven't read the others) saying it's over for him, but I doubt it. Tua continued playing after all those concussions a few years ago, and I bet whatever his reasons were for continuing to play haven't changed. We'll see, but I bet he'll be back.

Not sure about this. The media talking heads are already gaining steam and this is going to be a national story again.

It's going to be too much this time.

"cbrad wrote:

What a disaster. First, McD's play calling was terrible. This team is not build to win by relying on the run with lots of short passes. What made this offense great was the explosive passing play and it's like he just forgot that.

Then you have Tua's bad play followed by a concussion. I see some comments on this page (haven't read the others) saying it's over for him, but I doubt it. Tua continued playing after all those concussions a few years ago, and I bet whatever his reasons were for continuing to play haven't changed. We'll see, but I bet he'll be back.

Hope McD learns from this.

Dude it doesn't matter if Tua wants to play. You can't build your team around a guy who gets concussed on run of the mill plays.

"resnor wrote:

Dude it doesn't matter if Tua wants to play. You can't build your team around a guy who gets concussed on run of the mill plays.

No doctor should ever sign off on Tua playing again.

"resnor wrote:

Dude it doesn't matter if Tua wants to play. You can't build your team around a guy who gets concussed on run of the mill plays.

Assume he comes back for a moment. My prediction is McD will put huge guardrails around him when he takes off and runs. He'll probably note that Tua's concussion came not from falling incorrectly like a few years ago but by diving head first. So I wouldn't rule out building a team around him assuming he comes back. But for sure it's concerning.

"cbrad wrote:

What a disaster. First, McD's play calling was terrible. This team is not build to win by relying on the run with lots of short passes. What made this offense great was the explosive passing play and it's like he just forgot that.

Then you have Tua's bad play followed by a concussion. I see some comments on this page (haven't read the others) saying it's over for him, but I doubt it. Tua continued playing after all those concussions a few years ago, and I bet whatever his reasons were for continuing to play haven't changed. We'll see, but I bet he'll be back.

Hope McD learns from this.

His reasons for continuing were likely that second contract. That he just got. With alot of guaranteed money. Alot has changed now I'd think. Personally, if it was me... wife. 2 kids. strong family network. three major concussions, two of which left you momentarily stiff on the field... It's time to pack it in so I can watch my kids grow up and enjoy them before it' too late.

"Fireland wrote:

Well on the bright side Achane is apparently very healthy

He certainly looked good tonight to me. The only bright spot. 22 carries, 96 yards, 7 catches for 69 and a td. We ran for 139 as a team, and passed for 212. Achane was the offense tonight

"brandon27 wrote:

His reasons for continuing were likely that second contract. That he just got. With alot of guaranteed money. Alot has changed now I'd think. Personally, if it was me... wife. 2 kids. strong family network. three major concussions, two of which left you momentarily stiff on the field... It's time to pack it in so I can watch my kids grow up and enjoy them before it' too late.

He would still have this years money and the signing bonus which is nothing to sneeze at. Still a lot to walk away from obviously.

"cbrad wrote:

Assume he comes back for a moment. My prediction is McD will put huge guardrails around him when he takes off and runs. He'll probably note that Tua's concussion came not from falling incorrectly like a few years ago but by diving head first. So I wouldn't rule out building a team around him assuming he comes back. But for sure it's concerning.

Holy ——.

"Sceeto wrote:

Holy ——.

What? Let's see whose prediction is correct first.

Last season, the organization asked Tua to bulk up to help protect him from injury and essentially forbade him to run, or so it seemed. Tua got dogged for being “Chubby Tua”, never mind the fact he lit the field up.

So this season? Tua, drop weight so you can scramble and run like you did in 2022…which got you concussed twice. Not a great call if you ask me.

"cbrad wrote:

What? Let's see whose prediction is correct first.

lol. High character, bro.

McDaniel schemed short passes for Tua because Buffalo, like the Jaguars took away the timing routes to the middle of the field, and all they could do was short passes to the flats with Tua's limitations. Not rocket science.

This will be the end of Tua's career. Thankfully. Tuanon can stop pretending we have a franchise QB and we can all move on.

"Sceeto wrote:

lol. High character, bro.

Yeah something that doesn't apply to you. I mean look at all the posters who have just waited for this moment of disaster to start posting with glee again. C'mon man, don't talk to me about character.

"StaleTacos wrote:

McDaniel schemed short passes for Tua because Buffalo, like the Jaguars took away the timing routes to the middle of the field, and all they could do was short passes to the flats with Tua's limitations. Not rocket science.

This will be the end of Tua's career. Thankfully. Tuanon can stop pretending we have a franchise QB and we can all move on.

This wasn't the first game we faced 2 safeties high. McD simply didn't attack it like he did in the past. It's bad play calling.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Last season, the organization asked Tua to bulk up to help protect him from injury and essentially forbade him to run, or so it seemed. Tua got dogged for being “Chubby Tua”, never mind the fact he lit the field up.

So this season? Tua, drop weight so you can scramble and run like you did in 2022…which got you concussed twice. Not a great call if you ask me.

I was always against Tua running for this reason. More chances at contact is a terrible idea for him. However, this type of thing was inevitable. You can't keep all the glass safe with a bull in the china shop forever.

"cbrad wrote:

Yeah something that doesn't apply to you. I mean look at all the posters who have just waited for this moment of disaster to start posting with glee again. C'mon man, don't talk to me about character.

“ELITE”

"Sceeto wrote:

“ELITE”

Unfortunately, some posters still don't have the class to admit they were wrong. It is what it is.