What Are Your Dolphins Questions/Hopes NOT Related To Ryan Tannehill

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BpkBpkluxury_boxOP
Aug 21, 2012, 10:58 AM

There are enough #17 threads. Come here to escape and discuss the other 89 players, Philbin, lReland, cheerleaders, the seats at Sunlife etc.

Do NOT bring up #17 here, please. Plenty of other places to discuss that.

So what's on your mind?

pennphinfanpennphinfanforum_veteran
Aug 21, 2012, 11:07 AM

The real question is what's on your wife's mind?

ARarsenalNew Member
Aug 21, 2012, 11:08 AM

- I want to see Clay become a better blocker and inline player. To me he is a natural pass catcher and can do some serious YACin in open field, if he can get his blocking game up and be on the field more often, I think he can be a super serious weapon for us this year and down the line.

- I want to see more interior pass rush, and hope the Dolphins but Odrick back inside more often because it doesn't seem like he'll get much pressure off the edge. Where has Randy Starks been this preseason? Talk about being silent

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Aug 21, 2012, 11:17 AM

I want to see Daniel Thomas emerge and justify his draft position.

I want to see Reshad Jones establish himself as a playmaker in the secondary (at least as far as our safeties are concerned).

I want to see our ragtag group of WRS (and it will be that no matter which 5/6 that they settle on) shock the football world by performing well as a group (2400+ yds and 12+ TDs).

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BpkBpkluxury_box
Aug 21, 2012, 11:22 AM

"pennphinfan wrote:

The real question is what's on your wife's mind?

I can;t tell you here because it was about #17. lol.

Nappy RootsNappy Rootsforum_veteran
Aug 21, 2012, 11:25 AM

"Stitches wrote:

I want to see Daniel Thomas emerge and justify his draft position.

I want to see Reshad Jones establish himself as a playmaker in the secondary (at least as far as our safeties are concerned).

I want to see our ragtag group of WRS (and it will be that no matter which 5/6 that they settle on) shock the football world by performing well as a group (2400+ yds and 12+ TDs).

My thoughts EXACTLY!

Add two things.

I want to see VD take the next step and play like hes capable.

I want to see someone emerge as a pass rusher on the other side of Wake.

BpkBpkluxury_box
Aug 21, 2012, 11:26 AM

"arsenal wrote:

- I want to see Clay become a better blocker and inline player. To me he is a natural pass catcher and can do some serious YACin in open field, if he can get his blocking game up and be on the field more often, I think he can be a super serious weapon for us this year and down the line.

- I want to see more interior pass rush, and hope the Dolphins but Odrick back inside more often because it doesn't seem like he'll get much pressure off the edge. Where has Randy Starks been this preseason? Talk about being silent

Totally agree. Most of our best TE weapons aren;t great blockers so having them out there either hurts the run game or tips off the defense that we will be passing. How much can Clay improve his blocking this season? We'll see.
- Interesting to note, guys, that with this pass-oriented athletic group of TEs, Joe Philbin worked with tight ends at U of Iowa, so he must have a decent plan and vision for these guys.

- Arsenal, I think the staff would move Oddie inside if they had a talented rusher to replace him with. I guess we are trying to get our most talented guys out there though, even if it's a square peg in a round hole. Personally, I think we are better off trading Starks for a decent outside rusher and starting Odrick and Soliai inside with McD and Randall as their backups.

- Great points Arsenal. Now it would be great to welcome you to team Bush in the other thread. :)

BpkBpkluxury_box
Aug 21, 2012, 11:28 AM

"Stitches wrote:

I want to see Daniel Thomas emerge and justify his draft position.

I want to see Reshad Jones establish himself as a playmaker in the secondary (at least as far as our safeties are concerned).

I want to see our ragtag group of WRS (and it will be that no matter which 5/6 that they settle on) shock the football world by performing well as a group (2400+ yds and 12+ TDs).

From how Jones, Wilson, and Smith have been attacking the ball (Jones three INTs in one practice), I expect more INTs from Coyle's defense. The secondary is his specialty. Where it concerns me is if he is good enough to create pass rush pressure with creative stunts, drops, mixed coverage blotzes and such... because THOSE lead to a lot of the bad throws that become INTs.

I think the combined receiving yardage and TDs from our RBs and TEs will rival that of our WRs for at least the first part of this season. And that's not an ideal situation.

BpkBpkluxury_box
Aug 21, 2012, 11:30 AM

"Nappy Roots wrote:

My thoughts EXACTLY!

Add two things.

I want to see VD take the next step and play like hes capable.

I want to see someone emerge as a pass rusher on the other side of Wake.

It depends on what you think is keeping him from taking that next step right now. If it's mental focus, I'm not sure what will suddenly get him seriously focused. Maybe the regular season? If you think his troubles are conditioning-related, then they should improve as the staff has been playing him into shape with tons of snaps. Is he also on STs coverage? He should be for now.

Who do you see as the pass rusher who could develop opposite Wake? To my eyes, Vernon looks to have the curse of the Vernons (Gholston) and I doubt he improves enough this season to make a big impact. Maybe next year, though.

vizi0nvizi0nsubscriber
Aug 21, 2012, 11:32 AM

Would like to see the defense as a whole play with more fire and intensity... They all look so flat so far and it's really pissing me off.

I'm watching AZ play Oakland right now and the Cards D is beating Oakland up and down the field... Hard hits, two take aways, and the special teams blocked a punt for a TD. Keep in mind this is with Carson Palmer and Co. Still in the game. Where is this kind of fire with our team.?

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CassCassforum_veteran
Aug 21, 2012, 11:39 AM

From a selfish/personal view, my hopes would be to finally make it over to Miami to take in a game. Almost made the loss to the Colts a couple of years ago, but that fell through at the last minute, so would be nice to go one better this year.

  • I'd like to see our RT spot locked down by Martin as tightly as Long has the LT spot. If that happens, and with Pouncey playing centre, we're set for years.

  • More takeaways from the defence would be pretty handy.

  • Also, what's happened to our pass rush?

BpkBpkluxury_box
Aug 21, 2012, 11:43 AM

"Cass wrote:

From a selfish/personal view, my hopes would be to finally make it over to Miami to take in a game. Almost made the loss to the Colts a couple of years ago, but that fell through at the last minute, so would be nice to go one better this year.

  • I'd like to see our RT spot locked down by Martin as tightly as Long has the LT spot. If that happens, and with Pouncey playing centre, we're set for years.

  • More takeaways from the defence would be pretty handy.

  • Also, what's happened to our pass rush?

agree, and if Martin plays slightly better in game three this week I think we can see long term hope that Right Tackle could have a long term starter.

Your last two points go hand-in-hand. Until we pressure the QB better, there won't be as many bad throws and INTs. I don't see any player on the current roster capable of helping with that (keep in mind, Wake was out last game) so it'll have to be a waiver wire guy after this game, whenever cut downs happen.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Aug 21, 2012, 11:44 AM

Where the HELL is the pass rush going to come from?

Because I'm not seeing it from Olivier Vernon at all. Jared Odrick looks really slow off the ball and isn't getting any pass rush from end (as predicted). Jamaal Westerman looks like their most competent rusher outside Wake and he might not even be kept on the 53 man roster. They're down to Koa Misi as a pass rush specialist and if that isn't irony for you, I don't know what is.

This is becoming an issue.

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Nappy RootsNappy Rootsforum_veteran
Aug 21, 2012, 11:52 AM

"Bpk wrote:

Totally agree. Most of our best TE weapons aren;t great blockers so having them out there either hurts the run game or tips off the defense that we will be passing. How much can Clay improve his blocking this season? We'll see.
- Interesting to note, guys, that with this pass-oriented athletic group of TEs, Joe Philbin worked with tight ends at U of Iowa, so he must have a decent plan and vision for these guys.

- Arsenal, I think the staff would move Oddie inside if they had a talented rusher to replace him with. I guess we are trying to get our most talented guys out there though, even if it's a square peg in a round hole. Personally, I think we are better off trading Starks for a decent outside rusher and starting Odrick and Soliai inside with McD and Randall as their backups.

- Great points Arsenal. Now it would be great to welcome you to team Bush in the other thread. :)

I do think it is mental focus. However, it could be one single thing tomorrow that clicks in his head to make him play to his potential. We are just waiting to see. I am hoping the whole 'benching' thing is going to help this process move quicker.

Yes I agree with you about Vernon. I don't see him doing much this year. Which should have be expected considering how raw he was coming out of Miami. I really wanted a WR over him in this spot. Just disagree with the pick from the start. But he has potential. I think Shelby and Westerman will be the two guys to step up in the pass rush department this year. I hope at least.

Nappy RootsNappy Rootsforum_veteran
Aug 21, 2012, 11:54 AM

"ckparrothead wrote:

Where the HELL is the pass rush going to come from?

Because I'm not seeing it from Olivier Vernon at all. Jared Odrick looks really slow off the ball and isn't getting any pass rush from end (as predicted). Jamaal Westerman looks like their most competent rusher outside Wake and he might not even be kept on the 53 man roster. They're down to Koa Misi as a pass rush specialist and if that isn't irony for you, I don't know what is.

This is becoming an issue.

Yea at this point, they need to just slide Odrick back inside. He is to good of a player to be playing like he is.

BlameItOnTheHenneBlameItOnTheHenneforum_veteran
Aug 21, 2012, 11:56 AM

I'm hoping Clemons and Jones don't **** the bed. The position in general scares the crap out of me.

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Aug 21, 2012, 11:57 AM

I'm hoping Philbin turns out to be the coach I think he is.

If we get coach and QB locked down I don't care what other holes we have this year.

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Aug 21, 2012, 02:09 PM

"Bpk wrote:

Totally agree. Most of our best TE weapons aren;t great blockers so having them out there either hurts the run game or tips off the defense that we will be passing. How much can Clay improve his blocking this season? We'll see.
- Interesting to note, guys, that with this pass-oriented athletic group of TEs, Joe Philbin worked with tight ends at U of Iowa, so he must have a decent plan and vision for these guys.

- Arsenal, I think the staff would move Oddie inside if they had a talented rusher to replace him with. I guess we are trying to get our most talented guys out there though, even if it's a square peg in a round hole. Personally, I think we are better off trading Starks for a decent outside rusher and starting Odrick and Soliai inside with McD and Randall as their backups.

- Great points Arsenal. Now it would be great to welcome you to team Bush in the other thread. :)

You have a thread about team Bush? I do not see that. Where may I locate it? Hopefully you mean Reggie and not about that stinking good for nothing George.

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unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Aug 21, 2012, 02:10 PM

I hope this one player, lets call him Bryan Bannehill, plays fantastic.

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byroanbyroanadmin
Aug 21, 2012, 02:17 PM

I wonder if Jeff Otah could pass a physical now.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Aug 21, 2012, 02:25 PM

"Nappy Roots wrote:

Yea at this point, they need to just slide Odrick back inside. He is to good of a player to be playing like he is.

He's making plays against the run, can't fault him on that, but he's last off the ball and not getting any pass rush whatsoever. You could spend 5 seconds in the pocket and he's not getting there. And even though nothing obviously is proven yet, I still wonder if that left end duty is making him tired or rusty when he slides in on nickel and tries to rush from the interior.

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Rocky RaccoonRocky Raccoonmoderator
Aug 21, 2012, 02:45 PM

Stitches essentially stole my thunder.

Daniel Thomas and some of the no-name WRs coming out of no where and making names for themselves. Thomas and Bush together could be such a dynamic 1-2 punch.

BpkBpkluxury_box
Aug 21, 2012, 02:50 PM

"MrClean wrote:

You have a thread about team Bush? I do not see that. Where may I locate it? Hopefully you mean Reggie and not about that stinking good for nothing George.

lol. Oh it's a reference to the silly Dolphins Survivor game/thread where you vote players off until one remains. It's down to Bush and Wake. Lobbying for Bush supporters to join.

We can;t control who the coaches cut, but we can control who we cut. :)

BpkBpkluxury_box
Aug 21, 2012, 02:52 PM

"ckparrothead wrote:

He's making plays against the run, can't fault him on that, but he's last off the ball and not getting any pass rush whatsoever. You could spend 5 seconds in the pocket and he's not getting there. And even though nothing obviously is proven yet, I still wonder if that left end duty is making him tired or rusty when he slides in on nickel and tries to rush from the interior.

What would you think of trading Starks (and a 3rd) for a pass rusher and moving Odrick inside full time next to Soliai.

I'm comfortable with it. If Odrick get's injured, McDaniels steps in. Randall backs up Soliai. That's a decent... no wait, that's a GOOD interior, WITHOUT Starks. Plus we add a pass rusher.

Colorado DolfanColorado DolfanNew Member
Aug 21, 2012, 02:57 PM

A win against the Texans (finally!) would be nice.

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...get happy.

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